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[Albion] Premier League 2-4/3/24







AZ Gull

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Oct 14, 2003
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Chandler, AZ
Did we get a pay out like we did the 2 that went to Chelsea


Collyer left Albion a good six months before Sturge and Mheuka (he wasn't included in the Albion list of U21 players in the February 2022 PL squad listing). However, he didn't officially sign for United until March 2022. While I can't find a source that publishes the results of player tribunals, I'm sure any such panel would have been convened by now and we would have seen some reporting on it if it had happened.

I suspect Albion and United came to an agreement over a fee such that it didn't need to go to a tribunal (as is hinted at in this Daily Mail article from March 5 2022). We will probably never know the breakdown of that fee, unfortunately.
 






perth seagull

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Jul 5, 2003
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FIVESTEPS

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Nov 3, 2014
384
If he had any pride or respect for Man Utd he would resign but it appears to me his waiting for the sack and a big payoff. Alternatively it could be that he is delusional.
 


dwayne

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Jul 5, 2003
16,265
London
If he had any pride or respect for Man Utd he would resign but it appears to me his waiting for the sack and a big payoff. Alternatively it could be that he is delusional.
He's won 7 of the last 10 (RDZ has won 5 of the last 21 in the league and is being linked with the biggest jobs in world football FFS !!) and they are 6th in the table. Their squad is hardly world beating. Do you really think a different manager would do much better ?
 


FIVESTEPS

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Nov 3, 2014
384
He's won 7 of the last 10 (RDZ has won 5 of the last 21 in the league and is being linked with the biggest jobs in world football FFS !!) and they are 6th in the table. Their squad is hardly world beating. Do you really think a different manager would do much better ?
6 wins two against Newport and Wigan only one against a top six side Aston Villa.Playing a low block and apart from Rashfords barely a shot on goal.Probably not the time to change manager but unlikely to be there next season.
 




Simster

"the man's an arse"
Jul 7, 2003
54,952
Surrey
He's won 7 of the last 10 (RDZ has won 5 of the last 21 in the league and is being linked with the biggest jobs in world football FFS !!) and they are 6th in the table. Their squad is hardly world beating. Do you really think a different manager would do much better ?
Yes. Clearly.

Look at his signings. Onana isn't any better than Jason Steele, Anthony was £85m and is pure chuckles, Mason Mount was £55m. Martinez, Casemiro and Hoyland have all been ok-ish but f**k me, they cost £200m between them!

Ten Hag looks miles out of his depth. I wouldn't swap him for RDZ, even in these difficult times (by our standards).
 


dwayne

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Jul 5, 2003
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London
Yes. Clearly.

Look at his signings. Onana isn't any better than Jason Steele, Anthony was £85m and is pure chuckles, Mason Mount was £55m. Martinez, Casemiro and Hoyland have all been ok-ish but f**k me, they cost £200m between them!

Ten Hag looks miles out of his depth. I wouldn't swap him for RDZ, even in these difficult times (by our standards).
That's a structural problem if ten hag has been buying the players !! Hence why they've got cashworth now.

You say haggy looks well out of his depth but it's been the same story with every man u manager since fergie.
 


Simster

"the man's an arse"
Jul 7, 2003
54,952
Surrey
That's a structural problem if ten hag has been buying the players !! Hence why they've got cashworth now.

You say haggy looks well out of his depth but it's been the same story with every man u manager since fergie.
So you don't think Ten Hag is culpable for being completely outclassed by little old Brighton 3 times since he joined, for example?

He's far from an elite manager, who got lucky with a good, overachieving squad in a pub league.
 




Kinky Gerbil

Im The Scatman
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Jul 16, 2003
58,792
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Some cracking goals as a neutral. Enjoyed that game as a football lover, and the right result.

I thought Manchester United were appalling. I can’t remember a single shot on target after the (wonder) goal. Manchester City weren’t even that good but looked leagues ahead of their opposition. Foden is some player.

They had two very good chances at 1-0, but Rashford, despite his goal, isn't that good.

Awful touch when he was through on goal blew the chance for a one on one and an airshot at the back post when free.

United are years behind challenging for the title, they have so many average and aging players on massive wages with years left on contracts, im not sure they have much FFP wiggle room either?
 


Kinky Gerbil

Im The Scatman
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Jul 16, 2003
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hassocks
So you don't think Ten Hag is culpable for being completely outclassed by little old Brighton 3 times since he joined, for example?

He's far from an elite manager, who got lucky with a good, overachieving squad in a pub league.
Brighton have much better players than United if they are all fit, how many would you take ?

Shaw maybe?

Edit - Hojlund is good
 


dwayne

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Jul 5, 2003
16,265
London
So you don't think Ten Hag is culpable for being completely outclassed by little old Brighton 3 times since he joined, for example?

He's far from an elite manager, who got lucky with a good, overachieving squad in a pub league.
I think he's ok. But I don't think there's anyone out there that would do much better with that squad.
 








Simster

"the man's an arse"
Jul 7, 2003
54,952
Surrey
I think he's ok. But I don't think there's anyone out there that would do much better with that squad.
Which he helped build, to the tune of £3-400m.

Only two managers in Man Utd's history have won the league, but others have won more than a single league cup. And nobody called it "a structural problem" when Ron Atkinson was kicked out having won just two FA Cups were they?

Why are they always above us then :(
Because they have massive strength in depth compared to us. Probably owing to the fact their turnover is 10 times bigger than ours. :dunce:
 


dazzer6666

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Mar 27, 2013
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If he had any pride or respect for Man Utd he would resign but it appears to me his waiting for the sack and a big payoff. Alternatively it could be that he is delusional.
…..would be mad not to. They’ll have to pay him millions to end his contract.
 




Kinky Gerbil

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Jul 16, 2003
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Acker79

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Nov 15, 2008
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The problem at Man Utd is one of perception and expectation. The nature of the English league has always been one of a team dominating, then fading away, sometimes coming back later, sometimes drifting away for a longer period. With occasional upsets/one off wins in the mix.

Man U's dominance of the first 20 years of the premier league was longer than any other club has dominated, but it is now their time to drift away and be 'just another team' in the chasing pack. Their belief and the perception from those outside the club and their fans that they are entitled to be challenging every year is wrong. they're having an ok season for 'just another team in the chasing pack'.
 


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