[Albion] Premier League 2-4/2

[giveusfalmerplease]

I don’t want to go on about it but I’m really pissed off it wasn’t 10 - how on EARTH was there only 3 minutes added on?!!!

5 goals, 3 subs and numerous long VAR delays in the 2nd half alone - 3 minutes, how?!

Every match these days is the same, it’s ridiculous.

Except for the Albion games when the opp are behind and get 5 minutes injury time when there are only meant to be 3. twice this season we conceeded late late goals in the injury time of injury time. Yet if we are bhind and expect 6/7 minutes of injury time its only 3. Cant remember the opposition but there was one match we were 1-0 down with 2 injuries and 6 subs in the second half and yet only 3 minutes of extra time were awarded.

 

[BN41Albion]

We have grown men throwing tantrums and calling for the managers head when we draw 0-0 let alone lose 9-0.

Anytime I visit another teams forum to get a feel for their general thoughts before or after we've played them (never to post, for the record!), it's exactly the same as on here. Football fans are football fans, some are more reasonable, some less so. Those less so are louder generally

 

[nicko31]

Never liked Southampton (I don’t call them Saints, they never call us Albion or The Seagulls, and that includes their official site) since the League 1 days

Yeah never forget the guard of honour incident at the Withdean...

 

[vegster]

How can there be only 3 added minutes?!! The added time thing is an absolute farce.

Valid point, I'm sure refs are duty bound to allow at least 30 seconds for a substitution / goal celebration. So, chuck in sendings off and VAR checks there should have been the same amount of time added on as when we lost to United earlier this season surely.... About 8 minutes.

 

[DavidinSouthampton]

But as Washies said, both players tried to pull out of the tackle and therefore, by definition, weren't trying to play the ball. As the law is worded, that's a red card.

It does seem harsh though and it looks like it's something for IFAB to look at in future

That’s what I was trying to say, or should have said. Dean made the right decision according to the law, so the law needs looking at. Both Ferdinand and Hoddle agreed on that on Sky, and Lawrenson on the BBC live text said “no no no no no, how about a modicum of common sense!”. A player gets punished for doing the right thing.

 

[vegster]

An FPL record Shirley?


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Indeed, makes for grim reading! [emoji4] Only if you have him though!... I'm more cheesed off that of all the points on offer tonight Fernándes ONLY scored 17 points in total... Still at least I captained him...

 

[DavidinSouthampton]

This is me living in Southampton and rather enjoying a and a at Saints fans . Nuff said.

With you all the way neighbour! Maybe you have to live amongst them to fully appreciate what an unpleasant lot they are!

A great night!

Maybe I’m lucky, but all the Saints fans I know never try and wind me up about football and actually take an interest in conversation.

I’m not unhappy to see them lose, but not 9-0 and to the extent where the manager is beside himself. He’s a decent bloke.

Now if it had been Sam Allardyce or Mourinho........

 

[zefarelly]

Maybe I’m lucky, but all the Saints fans I know never try and wind me up about football and actually take an interest in conversation.

I’m not unhappy to see them lose, but not 9-0 and to the extent where the manager is beside himself. He’s a decent bloke.

Now if it had been Sam Allardyce or Mourinho........

My MD is a Stains fan, he's ok, but he's a Derby boy at heart. my lads old school mate and his parents are Stains fans, for hippy surfy types they're the horriblest bunch of ***** I've ever met when it comes to football. . . that special grating scything cut to their jib when football is mentioned, zero humour or sarchasm. nasty people.

As an aside, why is it that footnball before PL has been erased from history, lest we forget Liverpool 9 Palace 0

 

[Sarisbury Seagull]

Maybe I’m lucky, but all the Saints fans I know never try and wind me up about football and actually take an interest in conversation.

I’m not unhappy to see them lose, but not 9-0 and to the extent where the manager is beside himself. He’s a decent bloke.

Now if it had been Sam Allardyce or Mourinho........

You are lucky! Did you grow up here out of interest? The abuse I took wearing a NOBO shirt around here and then almost going out of the league and business whilst they were in the PL has left scars! Kids are cruel! [emoji23]

Plus, on a serious level, the homophobic stuff at times has been disgusting. I appreciate that is an issue with all clubs but again, when you’re a kid in the 90’s/00’s and don’t know how to deal with that sort of thing at that age, again it leaves a mark. I just couldn’t understand it.

I do also find even amongst the more reasonable ones (including in mine and my Mrs’s family) that there is still a bit of an arrogant ‘little old Brighton’ about their attitude to us and that we don’t deserve to be at their level.

I totally agree with your opinion about all three of those managers though. Hasenhuttl is an excellent manager and a decent bloke - like you I despise the other two.

 

[Shooting Star]

Wow, Southampton are a bonkers team.

 

[el punal]

Maybe I’m lucky, but all the Saints fans I know never try and wind me up about football and actually take an interest in conversation.

I’m not unhappy to see them lose, but not 9-0 and to the extent where the manager is beside himself. He’s a decent bloke.

Now if it had been Sam Allardyce or Mourinho........

Please believe me when I say most of my comments were tongue in cheek. I think Hasenhuttl (spelling?) is a fine manager and last night’s match was an absolute car crash in every way. Most of my friends down here are Saints fans and the rivalry is always that of humorous ribbing and certainly no malice intended.

Having said that it is always Saints/fans that get the rub of the green when it comes to bragging rights in recent years - so any excuse, eh?

 

[blue-shifted]

Wow, Southampton are a bonkers team.

You've really got to question their discipline.

Quite apart from the red cards I mean

To get thrashed that badly twice says to me, their hearts aren't in it when the chips are down.

Even when watching City fizz the ball around 4 or 5 up, we've fought until the end

 

[DavidinSouthampton]

You are lucky! Did you grow up here out of interest? The abuse I took wearing a NOBO shirt around here and then almost going out of the league and business whilst they were in the PL has left scars! Kids are cruel! [emoji23]

Plus, on a serious level, the homophobic stuff at times has been disgusting. I appreciate that is an issue with all clubs but again, when you’re a kid in the 90’s/00’s and don’t know how to deal with that sort of thing at that age, again it leaves a mark. I just couldn’t understand it.

I do also find even amongst the more reasonable ones (including in mine and my Mrs’s family) that there is still a bit of an arrogant ‘little old Brighton’ about their attitude to us and that we don’t deserve to be at their level.

I totally agree with your opinion about all three of those managers though. Hasenhuttl is an excellent manager and a decent bloke - like you I despise the other two.

I grew up in Worthing and only came over to Southampton when I finished school at the age of 18. I still remember, though, feeling resentment over Southern TV football coverage in the news in the 60s - Southampton this and Southampton that, and Brighton were tagged on at the end. Even the year we won div. 4 with Bobby Smith et al - oh and by the way Brighton have just won Div 4 with a record number of points and a record number of goals (or similar). And I detested Terry Paine, who I thought was a nasty dirty player........ I was biased, though.

I do also agree that, even among the friendly ones, there is still a certain arrogance as you say. I felt for them last night - Mrs DiS is a Saints fan and STH, but she also “gets” the Brighton thing and loves the City, and we sometimes make a weekend of a match by taking our Motorhome over for a couple of days.

I did get really annoyed when they beat us earlier in the season at the AMEX, but got a couple of messages from friends locally that they were lucky and didn’t deserve it - particularly the penalty.

I would LOVE to see us finish above them, though.

 

[DavidinSouthampton]

Please believe me when I say most of my comments were tongue in cheek. I think Hasenhuttl (spelling?) is a fine manager and last night’s match was an absolute car crash in every way. Most of my friends down here are Saints fans and the rivalry is always that of humorous ribbing and certainly no malice intended.

Having said that it is always Saints/fans that get the rub of the green when it comes to bragging rights in recent years - so any excuse, eh?

No problem. Watching last night on the TV I was inwardly chuckling up to about 4-0, while Mrs DiS was becoming increasingly exasperated. But the more it went on, the more I wanted it to stop. I’m not a great Manure fan, to say the least.

I think I presumed there was no malice!!

 

[McTavish]

If he pulled out of the challenge, meaning he tried to not make it, doesn't that mean that by definition the contact was accidental? Even the Beeb's usual stream of Surrey Mancs are saying that wasn't a pen, still less a red. But Shyster adores the big boys.

Accidental or not has nothing to do with it. If the ref decided that Luiz tripped the attacker, whether he meant to or not, then that is a foul. It was not an attempt to win the ball and so, as it was a clear and obvious goal-scoring opportunity then the red card is correct.

 

[Horsham Gull]

No problem. Watching last night on the TV I was inwardly chuckling up to about 4-0, while Mrs DiS was becoming increasingly exasperated. But the more it went on, the more I wanted it to stop. I’m not a great Manure fan, to say the least.

I think I presumed there was no malice!!

Before bed did you ask her to set the alarm for 9 this morning?

 

[blue-shifted]

Accidental or not has nothing to do with it. If the ref decided that Luiz tripped the attacker, whether he meant to or not, then that is a foul. It was not an attempt to win the ball and so, as it was a clear and obvious goal-scoring opportunity then the red card is correct.

But it wasn't an attempt to make a foul either.

I mean Luiz is a walking red card generally. Though I thought this was very harsh

 

[BeHereNow]

I’m beginning to think that we are the only set of fans (apart from their own) that actually refer to Southampton as Saints, like it’s some kind of affectionate nickname.

I’ll have to assume that all the Southampton fans you know refer to us as Albion.

 

[DavidinSouthampton]

I’m beginning to think that we are the only set of fans (apart from their own) that actually refer to Southampton as Saints, like it’s some kind of affectionate nickname.

I’ll have to assume that all the Southampton fans you know refer to us as Albion.

As whichever iconic film star said once: “you talking’ to me?” Or to one of the other Albion fans over this way? Difficult to tell.

But usually they all talk about Saints. If talking to me about us, it’s normally Brighton, occasionally Seagulls, never Albion. If I’m talking to my brother it’s ALWAYS the Albion, and has been for 50 years plus.

 

[BNthree]

Streets ahead at playing football, eight points behind in the league.

I’ll take that.

Think it was around Christmas time were we'd scored the same number of goals as you and had conceded 4 less than you but somehow were 4 places lower than you in the table!