[Albion] Potter- what’s he up to? (Managing West Ham from 9 Jan)

[Kosh]

Results wise, you are of course correct. But in terms of ‘looking like a top 10 team’, it is you trying to rewrite history if you ignore our shooting.
In terms of defending stats, chance creation stats and the quality of football, we absolutely looked like a top 10 side over that period. But our finishing was mostly that of a team in 20th place.

The most typical example of Potterball at this time was the home match against Sheff Utd. It was a draw but the chances created should have resulted in at least 4 goals from a League 2 level team. Some of the misses by the likes of Jahanbakhsh and Connolly were unforgivable. NSC went f***ing mental with the ‘Potter Out Campaign’ unable to blame anyone but the manager. But take away the lack of finishing and we played them off the park. We looked so much better than them. As with most of our opponents around that time, they relied on our lack finishing to get results against us which was f***ing horrible and well below League 2 level.

For those 3 years, I always thought we could have a top 6 team of only Potter could get his players scoring, that’s what we looked like. And then he finally did and f***ed off pretty soon afterwards leaving us in 4th where we’d have stayed or improved on if he hadn’t gone.

That last two lines is the biggest load of hypothetical BS I think I’ve read thus far… Revisionist hogwash, based on what exactly? Your trip to a parallel universe ?!?!

Part of the reason he f***ed off was that he knew he’d most likely peaked, his stock would be no higher again… opportunism, ambition and disloyalty.

The last one, by those who claim to love this club can surely only be paid in kind with vengeance.

 

[Hugo Rune]

That last two lines is the biggest load of hypothetical BS I think I’ve read thus far… Revisionist hogwash, based on what exactly? Your trip to a parallel universe ?!?!

What am I ‘revising’ if it’s hypothetical?

Your post (born out of a profound emotional response of anger rather than reason is obviously from someone who is still hurting after Potter’s departure) makes no sense. Some of our more delicate little flowers are obviously going to be scarred for life from the Potter exit.

To be clear Potter left us in 4th place in 2022. We were playing very well indeed. RDZ came in and set his priority to changing the team’s style rather than winning matches. We then took 1 point from a possible 12 as a result. If we’d continued under Potter, I have no doubt that we’d have won most of those games because most importantly (and something you are blind to due to your utter hatred of the man) we had the players. We finished 6th despite the wobble after Potter leaving, there is no reason to think that without the wobble, we’d not have finished 4th.

Don’t ever call my posts hypothetical BS again. I’ve ripped you to pieces and shown you up for the pathetic melt you are. I’ll do it again if you have another emotional breakdown. Man-up FFS and get over the Potter thing. It’s getting dull now.

 

[Springal]

Well quite, no mention of playing in the Europa league with an injury hit squad for the first time ever. Also getting absolutely no help in January from the board our players were obviously knackered.
So let’s forget about topping the hardest Europa league group in the competition and moan about losing to Luton away, jeez.

Hardest group ? 2 of those teams didn’t even make Europe this year , Ajax were sitting just above the relegation zone when we played them. We got knocked out (and hammered) by a team that’s on its 3rd manager since we played them!

 

[tstanbur]

That last two lines is the biggest load of hypothetical BS I think I’ve read thus far… Revisionist hogwash, based on what exactly? Your trip to a parallel universe ?!?!

Part of the reason he f***ed off was that he knew he’d most likely peaked, his stock would be no higher again… opportunism, ambition and disloyalty.

The last one, by those who claim to love this club can surely only be paid in kind with vengeance.

Based on him being a great coach and ability to improve players maybe ?

@Hugo Rune will enjoy this screenshot in particular

 

[Kosh]

What am I ‘revising’ if it’s hypothetical?

Your post (born out of a profound emotional response of anger rather than reason is obviously from someone who is still hurting after Potter’s departure) makes no sense. Some of our more delicate little flowers are obviously going to be scarred for life from the Potter exit.

To be clear Potter left us in 4th place in 2022. We were playing very well indeed. RDZ came in and set his priority to changing the team’s style rather than winning matches. We then took 1 point from a possible 12 as a result. If we’d continued under Potter, I have no doubt that we’d have won most of those games because most importantly (and something you are blind to due to your utter hatred of the man) we had the players. We finished 6th despite the wobble after Potter leaving, there is no reason to think that without the wobble, we’d not have finished 4th.

Don’t ever call my posts hypothetical BS again. I’ve ripped you to pieces and shown you up for the pathetic melt you are. I’ll do it again if you have another emotional breakdown. Man-up FFS and get over the Potter thing. It’s getting dull now.

What an absolute load of horsehit.

You said we would have finished 4th or better if your Graham had stayed… hypothetical BS.

You’re being revisionist by suggesting Potter would have posted numbers WAY beyond his capabilities based on his average performance with us in the preceding seasons… your spinning things to satisfy an untrue agenda based on your very special crystal ball… Roberto was the one who performed a miracle and took us to Europe, he had the balls for the challenge. Potter hadn’t got the strength of character to be a winner, he failed at Chelsea, I suspect he’ll fail at West Ham.

Then there’s the angry and personal nature of your own response to me… lol… touched a nerve… ? We’ll refrain from posting utter BS then.

Melt ? Seriously ?!? lol how old are you

 

[Springal]

What an absolute load of horsehit.

You said we would have finished 4th or better if your Graham had stayed… hypothetical BS.

If you only want FACTS, then Roberto last season with us we finished lower than Potters last season. He took us backwards

Stop twerking for a man with no morales and enjoys signing woman beaters and alleged rapists

 

[Kosh]

Based on him being a great coach and ability to improve players maybe ?

@Hugo Rune will enjoy this screenshot in particular

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Oooohh that was a nice post, I must have been drunk.

Tbf GP was a decent PL coach, an average PL coach… just a disloyal money driven rat of the worst kind.

No way were we finishing 4th or above that season…

 

[Hugo Rune]

What an absolute load of horsehit.

You said we would have finished 4th or better if your Graham had stayed… hypothetical BS.

You’re being revisionist by suggesting Potter would have posted numbers WAY beyond his capabilities based on his average performance with us in the preceding seasons… your spinning things to satisfy an untrue agenda based on your very special crystal ball… Roberto was the one who performed a miracle and took us to Europe, he had the balls for the challenge. Potter hadn’t got the strength of character to be a winner, he failed at Chelsea, I suspect he’ll fail at West Ham.

Then there’s the angry and personal nature of your own response to me… lol… touched a nerve… ? We’ll refrain from posting utter BS then.

Melt ? Seriously ?!? lol how old are you

There was a large element of tongue in cheek in my post!

I’m indifferent to Potter. He does not make me proud or happy, he does not make me sad or angry. He is history as far this club goes. He does not really warrant serious discussion so I wasn’t really being really serious! But I see you are laughing to hopefully no harm done!

 

[Hometownglory]

Watching ITV pre game coverage, matches at Upton Park, great proper football ground with edge, always thought they could have developed the old East Stand by "tilting" above the existing road to bring capacity to around 55K...

That said Graham's main battle will be the the Olympic Stadium and the WHU fans difficulty of settling there..

Really? Not the entitlement...have you ever met a happy Hammer?

 

[Kosh]

There was a large element of tongue in cheek in my post!

I’m indifferent to Potter. He does not make me proud or happy, he does not make me sad or angry. He is history as far this club goes. He does not really warrant serious discussion so I wasn’t really being really serious! But I see you are laughing to hopefully no harm done!

I will admit that I find Graham to be the most divisive coach pretty much in my lifetime… he grates on me, I suspect moreover as you alluded to the what might (hypothetically ) have been had he not run up the road in his dressing gown chasing a truck with £20 notes blowing out of the exhaust…

That unrequited possibility is why we’re all so pissed… but we mustn’t reinvent history either and Roberto provided something tangible, however fleeting, that GP chose not to try to do… why? Ambition, and whilst we’re at it… confirmation of his own opinion of himself and that grates… there’s a large chunk of arrogance there, so much so - I think it blindsided him into making what turned out to be, finances aside, a mistake.

Now, we’ll never know and consequently neither will he… the sore part: he clearly doesn’t give a toss, but I do.

 

[Professor Plum]

What am I ‘revising’ if it’s hypothetical?

Your post (born out of a profound emotional response of anger rather than reason is obviously from someone who is still hurting after Potter’s departure) makes no sense. Some of our more delicate little flowers are obviously going to be scarred for life from the Potter exit.

To be clear Potter left us in 4th place in 2022. We were playing very well indeed. RDZ came in and set his priority to changing the team’s style rather than winning matches. We then took 1 point from a possible 12 as a result. If we’d continued under Potter, I have no doubt that we’d have won most of those games because most importantly (and something you are blind to due to your utter hatred of the man) we had the players. We finished 6th despite the wobble after Potter leaving, there is no reason to think that without the wobble, we’d not have finished 4th.

Don’t ever call my posts hypothetical BS again. I’ve ripped you to pieces and shown you up for the pathetic melt you are. I’ll do it again if you have another emotional breakdown. Man-up FFS and get over the Potter thing. It’s getting dull now.

We still arguing about this? The simple obvious truth is that we will never know what would have happened had Potter stayed, so it’s an utterly pointless football-fans-disappearing-up-own-backsides conversation. Most people moved on from this in September 2022.

 

[Weststander]

Thought that winless streak was mostly during lockdown (that's how I interpreted all those posts), my bad in that case.

Easy to get mixed up. We’ve had lots of incredibly long non-winning runs in the PL.

 

[pocketseagull]

In 2021-22 after six games we had 13 points. We ended the season in 10th but going into the final game could've finished 13th.

In 2022-23 after six games we had 13 points and then Potter left. Based on previous form (and what happened next at Chelsea) it seems more likely we would've repeated the same pattern of a fall off in results.

 

[Krafty]

In 2022-23 after six games we had 13 points and then Potter left. Based on previous form (and what happened next at Chelsea) it seems more likely we would've repeated the same pattern of a fall off in results.

I don’t think anyone can be completely certain about what would’ve happened if Potter had stayed at the club. I do respect Potter for what he has done here, we transitioned from relegation strugglers to a mid-table outfit. Roberto De Zerbi built from Potter’s foundations and took the club to greater heights. All our Premier League managers have been successful in my opinion.

 

[Jackthelad]

Potter is not worth getting heated about! Let’s not let a mediocre manager like potter divide us. He’s shit.

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

Potter is not worth getting heated about! Let’s not let a mediocre manager like potter divide us. He’s shit.

That's a bit harsh. Like I said at the time, the club had been diligently tracking Potter for, oh, weeks, ever since an unlikely Östersund win at the Emirates and that novelty spot on Football Focus