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[Football] Potter [NOT] at Chelsea

Potter at Chelsea

  • I want him to fail

    Votes: 365 48.2%
  • I want him to succeed

    Votes: 73 9.6%
  • He's gone. I'm indifferent. Graham who?

    Votes: 320 42.2%

  • Total voters
    758


Machiavelli

Well-known member
Oct 11, 2013
17,752
Fiveways
Bullshit, a Chelsea player was first into the box
The rules are now ridiculously complex, but football fans are remarkably adept at getting agitated when they don't understand the rules:
-- several players encroached, one of which was the Dortmund player that cleared the ball and, under the rules, that constitutes a penalty.
 






timbha

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2003
10,497
Sussex
The rules are now ridiculously complex, but football fans are remarkably adept at getting agitated when they don't understand the rules:
-- several players encroached, one of which was the Dortmund player that cleared the ball and, under the rules, that constitutes a penalty.
Agreed. So if that Dortmund defender hadn’t kicked the ball play would have continued
 


Bodian

Well-known member
May 3, 2012
14,161
Cumbria
The rules are now ridiculously complex, but football fans are remarkably adept at getting agitated when they don't understand the rules:
-- several players encroached, one of which was the Dortmund player that cleared the ball and, under the rules, that constitutes a penalty.
It doesn't even matter that he cleared it. The rules are quite simple regarding encroachment.

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BNthree

Plastic JCL
Sep 14, 2016
11,443
WeHo
So funny they only managed to scrape a 1-0 win over Leeds at the weekend and are firing on all cylinders now.
 








Icy Gull

Back on the rollercoaster
Jul 5, 2003
72,015
No - see above post.
Exactly, so it should not have been retaken, should have been an indirect free kick, so not that complicated at all. Potential encroachment by defending player makes it more complicated though….
 
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Sheebo

Well-known member
Jul 13, 2003
29,319
But he didn't touch the ball. Had that Chelsea player kicked in the rebound it would have been ruled out.
No. Don’t think the rules have anything to do with if the encroaching player touches it. The rule is if an attacking player encroaches and the team scores, the kick should be retaken (another rule barely followed). The point here is, if that had gone in could you really see VAR ordering a retake?

The rules are very hard to understand the way they’re written for me, but the table at the bottom shows the encroachment - it has nothing to do with if the encroaching player clears the ball - encroachment is encroachment:

 


Sheebo

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Jul 13, 2003
29,319


ConfusedGloryHunter

He/him/his/that muppet
NSC Patron
Jul 6, 2011
2,408
Exactly, so it should not have been retaken, should have been an indirect free kick, so not that complicated at all. Encroachment by defending player makes it more complicated though….
Is that not line 3? Both attacking and defending encroach means retake.
 




Sheebo

Well-known member
Jul 13, 2003
29,319
Exactly, so it should not have been retaken, should have been an indirect free kick, so not that complicated at all.potential enroachment by defending player makes it more complicated though….
No it should have been retaken - it was the correct decision by the rules, but these rules are barely ever followed..!
 


Triggaaar

Well-known member
Oct 24, 2005
53,036
Goldstone
I've not watched much of this, but whenever I look I see Dortmund cheating, and conning he ref.
 


Icy Gull

Back on the rollercoaster
Jul 5, 2003
72,015
Unless Dortmund can improve dramatically in the last few minutes, Chelsea will have deserved this, Dortmund have been shit and
offered nothing upfront
 




Sheebo

Well-known member
Jul 13, 2003
29,319
To prove my point on the encroachment rule being barely followed, I went to Saturdays game no less. Ok it’s not the exact split second he kicks it here but Soucek is clearly 3 feet encroaching in the semi circle so clearly was encroaching. If Ali Mac had missed does anybody think VAR would have ordered a retake? No chance. (Click image to enlarge)
 

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BNthree

Plastic JCL
Sep 14, 2016
11,443
WeHo
Unless Dortmund can improve dramatically in the last few minutes, Chelsea will have deserved this, Dortmund have been shit And offered nothing upfront
I’d have fancied our chances against Dortmund based on this performance.
 












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