[Football] Potter [NOT] at Chelsea

[BN41Albion]

Chelse fans very very quiet, especially considering the game and circumstances

 

[timbha]

The rules are now ridiculously complex, but football fans are remarkably adept at getting agitated when they don't understand the rules:
-- several players encroached, one of which was the Dortmund player that cleared the ball and, under the rules, that constitutes a penalty.

Agreed. So if that Dortmund defender hadn’t kicked the ball play would have continued

 

[Bodian]

The rules are now ridiculously complex, but football fans are remarkably adept at getting agitated when they don't understand the rules:
-- several players encroached, one of which was the Dortmund player that cleared the ball and, under the rules, that constitutes a penalty.

It doesn't even matter that he cleared it. The rules are quite simple regarding encroachment.

 

[BNthree]

So funny they only managed to scrape a 1-0 win over Leeds at the weekend and are firing on all cylinders now.

 

[Bodian]

Agreed. So if that Dortmund defender hadn’t kicked the ball play would have continued

No - see above post.

 

[timbha]

No - see above post.

So Peter Walton was talking bollox

 

[Icy Gull]

No - see above post.

Exactly, so it should not have been retaken, should have been an indirect free kick, so not that complicated at all. Potential encroachment by defending player makes it more complicated though….

 

[Sheebo]

But he didn't touch the ball. Had that Chelsea player kicked in the rebound it would have been ruled out.

No. Don’t think the rules have anything to do with if the encroaching player touches it. The rule is if an attacking player encroaches and the team scores, the kick should be retaken (another rule barely followed). The point here is, if that had gone in could you really see VAR ordering a retake?

The rules are very hard to understand the way they’re written for me, but the table at the bottom shows the encroachment - it has nothing to do with if the encroaching player clears the ball - encroachment is encroachment:

Law 14 - The Penalty Kick

IFAB Laws of the Game

www.thefa.com

 

[Sheebo]

It doesn't even matter that he cleared it. The rules are quite simple regarding encroachment.

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You got there first!

 

[ConfusedGloryHunter]

Exactly, so it should not have been retaken, should have been an indirect free kick, so not that complicated at all. Encroachment by defending player makes it more complicated though….

Is that not line 3? Both attacking and defending encroach means retake.

 

[Sheebo]

Exactly, so it should not have been retaken, should have been an indirect free kick, so not that complicated at all.potential enroachment by defending player makes it more complicated though….

No it should have been retaken - it was the correct decision by the rules, but these rules are barely ever followed..!

 

[Triggaaar]

I've not watched much of this, but whenever I look I see Dortmund cheating, and conning he ref.

 

[Icy Gull]

Unless Dortmund can improve dramatically in the last few minutes, Chelsea will have deserved this, Dortmund have been shit and
offered nothing upfront

 

[Sheebo]

To prove my point on the encroachment rule being barely followed, I went to Saturdays game no less. Ok it’s not the exact split second he kicks it here but Soucek is clearly 3 feet encroaching in the semi circle so clearly was encroaching. If Ali Mac had missed does anybody think VAR would have ordered a retake? No chance. (Click image to enlarge)

 

[BNthree]

Unless Dortmund can improve dramatically in the last few minutes, Chelsea will have deserved this, Dortmund have been shit And offered nothing upfront

I’d have fancied our chances against Dortmund based on this performance.

 

[Insel affe]

Can just hear Potter now in his after game interviews “brave, dug deep, showed character, difficult opposition, big win”

Oh I can’t stand him anymore

 

[BBassic]

Well this is disappointing

 

[Dirty Dave]

Chelsea winning this tie could be a blessing for us. The two quarter final legs take place midweek either side of our trip to Stamford Bridge. With winning the CL their only chance of being in the competition next season, hopefully their main focus will be on those games.

 

[Icy Gull]

Well this is disappointing

At least we get the chance of De Zerbi going head to head with GP when we play them

 

[albionalex]

No. Don’t think the rules have anything to do with if the encroaching player touches it. The rule is if an attacking player encroaches and the team scores, the kick should be retaken (another rule barely followed). The point here is, if that had gone in could you really see VAR ordering a retake?

The rules are very hard to understand the way they’re written for me, but the table at the bottom shows the encroachment - it has nothing to do with if the encroaching player clears the ball - encroachment is encroachment:

Law 14 - The Penalty Kick

IFAB Laws of the Game

www.thefa.com

No, not explicitly but that is a guaranteed way it will get called.