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- Thread starter Talby
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I loved the way that the KC totally ignored her pitiful blubbing and just kept firing the questions at her. Good man. Sound fellow.
ROSM
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I once worked on a programme that isn't on anybody 's CV. There are people who would rather claim to have been in prison for the 3yrs it was running.
I also had someone apply to me for a job claiming he had done my job on a major programme.
It's true, failure is an orphan and success has many fathers.
- Oct 17, 2008
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“I can’t recall”.
Disgraceful.
Disgraceful.
Weststander
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Depending on your sense of humour, but it's right down my alley .... on Youtube I'm streaming the Telegraph coverage of the enquiry .... helpfully you can go back and forth, skip the enquiry breaks.
The scroll of viewer chat down the right is hilarious. Some pertinent comments, but also wits mocking stuff like her devout Christianity.
The scroll of viewer chat down the right is hilarious. Some pertinent comments, but also wits mocking stuff like her devout Christianity.
- Oct 17, 2008
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If I was going to come up with my own comment in bad taste, it would be she is simply following the guidance of Peter, who famously said he “couldn’t recall” meeting Jesus three times.
ROSM
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If only they had employed doubting thomas
- Oct 17, 2008
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The thing is, I think I would find this funny if it wasn’t such a serious matter. What you have here is a literal conspiracy by a major public entity, going right to the very top, where hundreds of innocent people have had their lives, reputations and families ruined and taken away from them having done quite literally nothing wrong.
It’s genuinely a disgrace.
More than one person can make the tea you know.
ROSM
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But none as good as me.
fly high
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I understand they are but can't act until the inquiry finishes.
Tom Hark Preston Park
Will Post For Cash
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Funnily enough, I do sort of get that. If you're head honcho of any major organisation, having ten meetings a day, then you're not going to recall an individual minuted point from a meeting held a decade ago. What you could and should do tho is properly challenge stuff at the point at which it arises. Which Paula Vennells clearly never did, or at least not forcibly enough to make a difference
Weststander
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My aspiration is ultimately that a load of PO execs and some solicitors serve lengthy prison terms. I wouldn't shed a tear over their financial ruin too.
Along the way, I won't abandon my mocking sense of humour against these blatant self-serving liars.
In the exchanges, it's interesting how many time Mr Bates was mentioned at PO head office back in the day, not in glowing terms, they've must despised the bloke.
- Oct 17, 2008
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But to quote Lionel Hutz there is the truth
and “the truth” The truth is she does know, because she’ll have spent hundreds of hours with counsel talking over each and every piece of discovery in advance of this hearing. Every email, meeting minute and memo will have been prepared for, and lines of questioning will have been forensically looked at in advance.
The strategy is to deny knowledge, accept guilt indirectly in the face of overwhelming evidence, and not self-incriminate.
She is lying through her teeth.
- Oct 17, 2008
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“I didn’t know; and even if I did know it was after I left the company and you can’t prove otherwise”. Not a real quote by the way; just what she is actually saying
- Oct 17, 2008
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Inquiry counsel Jason Beer is sticking to questions about Fujitsu's ability to remotely access Horizon accounts in Post Office branches.
In one exchange, Beer brings up an email from 2015 - it was sent by Paula Vennells, to ex-Post Office head of IT Lesley Sewell and ex-group communications and corporate affairs director Mark R Davies, before her well-documented appearance before the business select committee.
Vennells pre-empts in the email that MPs will likely ask her if it's possible to remotely access Horizon data and askes her colleagues:
Beer suggests that's an "odd way to go about things", which prompts laughter around the room. I hear one person say "unbelievable" to the person next to them.
Vennells keeps a straight face and says this was part of a "genuine attempt to be able to reassure" MPs, and that she believed it to be true that systems couldn't be accessed remotely. Other faces in the room are not as straight.
In one exchange, Beer brings up an email from 2015 - it was sent by Paula Vennells, to ex-Post Office head of IT Lesley Sewell and ex-group communications and corporate affairs director Mark R Davies, before her well-documented appearance before the business select committee.
Vennells pre-empts in the email that MPs will likely ask her if it's possible to remotely access Horizon data and askes her colleagues:
Vennells says she was once advised that in order to get to the truth it's better to tell someone "what it is you want to say very clearly and then ask for the information that backs that up".
Beer suggests that's an "odd way to go about things", which prompts laughter around the room. I hear one person say "unbelievable" to the person next to them.
Vennells keeps a straight face and says this was part of a "genuine attempt to be able to reassure" MPs, and that she believed it to be true that systems couldn't be accessed remotely. Other faces in the room are not as straight.
Guy Fawkes
The voice of treason
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- Oct 17, 2008
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^^^^ I.e. give me the answer I want to hear, wink wink.
Like everyone else I want to see criminal prosecutions, but what can we do them for? To take Vennells as an example: being totally useless, breathtakingly incompetent and massively over-promoted is not actually a crime. Hopefully they can get them with something serious and not just a trivial corporate misdemeanour.