Post ManU v Arsenal - worrying words

[Curious Orange]

Blimey, this is really mature isn't it? Really impressed by some of the patronising responses on here, terrific stuff lads
Whether you agree with me or not, I am entitled to my opinion and funnily enough it is an opinion shared by Sir Alex Ferguson.

I don't think anybody is doubting your right to have an opinion, it just seems a slightly peculiar one. Ferguson stated that professional players don't like showboating, but the fact of the matter is that punters DO like showboating - and they pay the wages. I agree that there is a time and place for it, it is a right that has to be earned by the team, but frankly if you're 3-0 up has that right not been earned?

 

[Easy 10]

I was going to bring that up as well, Easy. It happened right in front of where I was sitting and was on SoccerAM for a bit, I had an mpeg of it on my hard drive for a while as it amused me. Don't remember too many of us being upset about that? And I write as one of the more fanatically anti-Utd bods on this board, I suspect.

It's the sort of thing the fans of the team doing it love, and the others hate, like a lot of things in football. If a gooner had done it at Old Trafford the fans would have been baying for somebody to kick him up in the air. Must say though, I was pleasantly surprised to hear Ferguson's take on it. First time for everything...

Actually I think I've JUST remembered - Jones ran down the wing, stopped, put one foot on the ball and casually stood their with his hands on his hips surveying the penalty area. Predictably an Orient player took exception and went LUNGING in on him, only for Jones to sidestep the challenge and whip the cross in.

If ONLY we'd scored from it

 

[barney]

And why do you say "..him thinking he can take the piss out of Arsenal..."?
He didn't think he could do it, he did it!

well he clearly can't take the piss cos they're behind them in the league. so he made himself look a bit of a prick especially when his manager said the same after the game.

 

[Easy 10]

well he clearly can't take the piss cos they're behind them in the league. so he made himself look a bit of a prick especially when his manager said the same after the game.

Whats the League got to do with it ? They were 4-0 up in that particular game, if you can't start a bit of showboating in those circumstances then when can you ? He didn't look like a prick at all, it was just a bit of pisstaking.

Some people take things FAR too seriously.

 

[Knotty]

well he clearly can't take the piss cos they're behind them in the league. so he made himself look a bit of a prick especially when his manager said the same after the game.

Sorry, I don't understand your logic. Are you saying that if United had been above them in the league, it would have been OK to do it?

What if, at a later stage in the season, United are ahead of Arsenal, would that suddenly make it right?

Does the fact that they were 3-0 up and had played ALL the good football not count?

So if an Albion player did it when we were 3-0 up having totally outplayed a team one place above us in the league, you would say it was wrong, would you?

I simply don't see how league position has anything to do with whether it's right or wrong. As I have said before, I was not in the least bit bothered by who won, but I enjoyed the good football I saw and the only villains were Arsenal - firstly by their foul play, but more importantly because they failed to produce the attractive, quality football of which they are so capable.

 

[Barrow Boy]

Blimey, I hope Simon Morgan doesn't watch Soccer AM's "All aboard the Showboat"
He'd have a fit !

:yahoo:

 

[Simon Morgan]

Blimey, I hope Simon Morgan doesn't watch Soccer AM's "All aboard the Showboat"
He'd have a fit !

:yahoo:

I think the difference with that is that the "showboating" often leads to goalscoring positions and has a positive influence on the game, unlike what Nani did the other night.

 

[Gyuribá]

That Nani thing was supercool, the Arse fans feel humilitated, who cares?

Lebron James can dunk as humilitating as he wants. No one complains against it.

 

[Barrow Boy]

I think the difference with that is that the "showboating" often leads to goalscoring positions and has a positive influence on the game, unlike what Nani did the other night.

You obviously don't watch it, if you did you'd know that most of the clips shown don't all lead to goals being scored, in fact a lot of them end up as misplaced passes. That's the whole point, it doesn't have to have an end product for it to be entertaining. Still just a game !

 

[NMH]

......and perhaps injured him for a couple of months, so we wouldn't have to put up with watching the likes of Ronaldo, and his fancy-dan footwork. We don't want THAT sort of footwork in our lump-the-ball-and-run league.



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Are you his mum or something?
My problem was not that he did the skills but that he was doing them against a team from a division below, when they were 4-0 on the biggest day of their career. That's a lack of sportsmanship. Truly great players would need the ego boost of taunting someone fairly obviously not on their level

Are you his missus or something?
Your problem about it being showboating against a lower team rings true, but the re-action of kicking him in the air, taking lumps out of him or crocking him is still ridiculous!
If a higher-division player showboats over a lower league outfit, he just stands to look silly - it doesn't even require anyone to enact revenge on him in order to illustrate poor sportsmanship and poor losing.

If someone came along in the game, and took the piss out of Ronaldo, or Nani, or Henry - then we'd all be laughing about them asking for it. Yes, asking to be outplayed, NOT crocked.