Possible bad news for a B777 [Malaysian MH370]

[Triggaaar]

He's serious, not worth arguing or debating with.

I know he has an extreme view on conspiracies etc, but I think he was taking the piss with that one.

 

[Scoffers]

Face-saving Malaysians you say?

Yes, very much so.

Neither Rolls Royce nor Boeing will commit to anything that MA don't want them to, they are just protecting their interests.

 

[Buzzer]

I know he has an extreme view on conspiracies etc, but I think he was taking the piss with that one.

Sad to say that I think he's serious. It appears to be a common trait with conspiracy theorists that they believe they have an advanced insight into science that the rest of us cannot comprehend because we are mainstream - free energy, natural cures for cancer, homeopathy, numerology etc etc and from what I can tell it's got little foundation other than self-referential conspiracy sites/blogs and videos where they cherry pick the bits from modern science that lend weight to their arguments and discount the rest of it in favour of this pseudoscience.

Quite and I'm in a panic now; what's happened to the 2nd and 3rd Laws of Thermodynamics Mr hybrid?

And Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle can do one too.

 

[Shropshire Seagull]

Isnt it also true that all B777's have sensors that continually send data to Boeing whilst in flight? If true I'm guessing that they have a lot more data about the flight than they are letting on.

Radio 4 were talking about Rolls Royce having engine monitors and a report that the two engines on this flight continued to run FOUR hours after it dropped off the radar.

Very roughly that's another 2000 miles under some sort of cloaking device - okay there are a finite number of runways in the world to put down a long-haul jet safely [length] - some will be military only - this mystery just gets deeper ....

If it were an experiment of some kind, they could have easily selected a cargo plane which would have been much less newsworthy - all rather bizarre ....

 

[Icy Gull]

Bloody great airplanes don't just disappear, this is getting more bizarre by the day. I had a 10 hour flight on a 777 yesterday.... And yes I was very nervous all the way

 

[Bozza]

The US are moving one of their ships to the Indian Ocean with mention of intelligence that the plane flew for 4-5 hours before going down in the sea there.

 

[Bozza]

ABC News’ Martha Raddatz is known for having well-cultivated sources inside the defense department. Earlier today she quoted an unnamed “senior Pentagon official” as saying the USS Kidd, a destroyer, was moving to the Indian Ocean to search for MH370.

Raddatz’s report makes clear that the Indian Ocean search was not mutually exclusive with search activity elsewhere and the United States is joined in the search on multiple fronts across a wide stretch of land and sea.

Here’s the top of Raddatz’s report:

U.S. officials have an “indication” the missing Malaysia Airlines jetliner may have crashed in the Indian Ocean and is moving the USS Kidd to the area to begin searching.

It will take another 24 hours to move the ship into position, a senior Pentagon official told ABC News.

“We have an indication the plane went down in the Indian Ocean,” the senior official said.

The official said there were indications that the plane flew four or five hours after disappearing from radar and that they believe it went into the water.

Malaysian officials opened a news conference Thursday by calling reports that the plane continued to send signals after disappearing at 1.07am local time “inaccurate.”

 

[seagullsovergrimsby]

ABC News’ Martha Raddatz is known for having well-cultivated sources inside the defense department. Earlier today she quoted an unnamed “senior Pentagon official” as saying the USS Kidd, a destroyer, was moving to the Indian Ocean to search for MH370.

Raddatz’s report makes clear that the Indian Ocean search was not mutually exclusive with search activity elsewhere and the United States is joined in the search on multiple fronts across a wide stretch of land and sea.

Here’s the top of Raddatz’s report:

U.S. officials have an “indication” the missing Malaysia Airlines jetliner may have crashed in the Indian Ocean and is moving the USS Kidd to the area to begin searching.

It will take another 24 hours to move the ship into position, a senior Pentagon official told ABC News.

“We have an indication the plane went down in the Indian Ocean,” the senior official said.

The official said there were indications that the plane flew four or five hours after disappearing from radar and that they believe it went into the water.

Malaysian officials opened a news conference Thursday by calling reports that the plane continued to send signals after disappearing at 1.07am local time “inaccurate.”

I would hazard a guess that the USS Kidd is already in the Indian Ocean if she was at the US Naval base at Diego Garcia.

 

[Leekbrookgull]

the fella on sky news this morning came up with this theory, a catastrophic de compression,coinsiding with the oxeygen system failuring, just as they switched from malaysian to vietnamese airspace

the crew reacted initionally,but passed out,leaving the stricken plane with 3000 miles worth of fuel on board to carry on flying on autopilot towards the Indian ocean,thus becoming a needle in a haystack

Take a look at this,makes you wonder however assuming the plane was on auto pilot would it have not just flown on towards China ?http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-409703/Ghost-flight-horror-crash-blamed-pilots.html

 

[lawros left foot]

Once the possible explanations have been disproved, that only leaves the impossible explanations- Sherlock Holmes












ALIENS!!!!!!!

 

[Guy Fawkes]

I disagree Guinessboy..I think its the news agencies job to present news...not speculation, not theories, not some 'experts' opinions.... .. they used to do it like that, but now with 24 hrs news broadcasting, the seem to feel the need to jump on a story that has legs and keep running with it, just to fill the airtime...to spend an hour saying the same thing, using different sentences and 'experts' seems like laziness to me....its not like its the only story just now is it?.. Ukraine...the forgotten war in Syria etc..

So let me get this right, you want the news broadcastings to stop reporting on this missing plane after 5 days because they are just going over the same bits of information but getting the views on it from several different sources, but you would like them to carry on reporting on things like Syria and the Ukraine where it is likely that there is nothing new to report after a couple of weeks or even longer. What is there that is new to justify reports from those conflicts that hasn't already happened and been reported / commented upon?

At least with this planes disappearance, its recent and there are things happening that are new (widening search area, various differing reports that may shed new light on what happened or where it is? (was it still flying several hours after contact was lost?)

The harsh reality is that people won't tune into a news channel especially to see whats new in Syria after 18 months of fighting there but still will after a few days when a plane has vanished without explanation

 

[Munkfish]

So let me get this right, you want the news broadcastings to stop reporting on this missing plane after 5 days because they are just going over the same bits of information but getting the views on it from several different sources, but you would like them to carry on reporting on things like Syria and the Ukraine where it is likely that there is nothing new to report after a couple of weeks or even longer. What is there that is new to justify reports from those conflicts that hasn't already happened and been reported / commented upon?

At least with this planes disappearance, its recent and there are things happening that are new (widening search area, various differing reports that may shed new light on what happened or where it is? (was it still flying several hours after contact was lost?)

The harsh reality is that people won't tune into a news channel especially to see whats new in Syria after 18 months of fighting there but still will after a few days when a plane has vanished without explanation

They could report on the fact Europe and the US are threatening sanctions on Russia and them threatening to do the same.

 

[vegster]

Once the possible explanations have been disproved, that only leaves the impossible explanations- Sherlock Holmes












ALIENS!!!!!!!

It will turn up sooner or later. Besides, if Aliens were involved it would have involved an American airline plane carrying one or two of Tom Cruise, Harrison Ford, Nicholas Cage, etc etc.

 

[The Lemming Stomper]

It will turn up sooner or later. Besides, if Aliens were involved it would have involved an American airline plane carrying one or two of Tom Cruise, Harrison Ford, Nicholas Cage, etc etc.

And rednecks from Alabama

 

[daveinprague]

So let me get this right, you want the news broadcastings to stop reporting on this missing plane after 5 days because they are just going over the same bits of information but getting the views on it from several different sources, but you would like them to carry on reporting on things like Syria and the Ukraine where it is likely that there is nothing new to report after a couple of weeks or even longer. What is there that is new to justify reports from those conflicts that hasn't already happened and been reported / commented upon?

At least with this planes disappearance, its recent and there are things happening that are new (widening search area, various differing reports that may shed new light on what happened or where it is? (was it still flying several hours after contact was lost?)

The harsh reality is that people won't tune into a news channel especially to see whats new in Syria after 18 months of fighting there but still will after a few days when a plane has vanished without explanation

No, you didnt get it right. Nobody said stop reporting the plane crash..im saying report it in depth, when its found..A plane has crashed into the sea...the crew and the passengers, are mostly likely dead. Whilst its catastrophic for the families, and 'interesting' for joe public, Re-hashing the same item of news for over an hour, when there is still a war in Syria, a war, where we were almost involved, have provided arms to one of the sides, but seems to be out of the news now, as im guessing Assad is now winning..the west and Russia are at loggerheads with potential nightmare scenarios, and I watched a bunch of people interviewed about why a crashed plane has turned..I just think its dominating the news, when there are more pressing matters.

 

[Guy Fawkes]

No, you didnt get it right. Nobody said stop reporting the plane crash..im saying report it when its found..A plane has crashed into the sea...the crew and the passengers, are mostly likely dead. Whilst its catastrophic for the families, and 'interesting' for joe public, Re-hashing the same item of news for over an hour, when there is
still a war in Syria, a war, where we were almost involved, but seems to be out of the news now, as im guessing Assad is now winning..the west and Russia are at loggerheads with potential nightmare scenarios, and I watched a bunch
of people interviewed about why a crashed plane has turned..I just think its dominating the news, when there are more pressing matters.

But if they were continuing to cover Syria and Ukraine as you suggest, wouldn't they have to "spend time saying the same thing, using different sentences and 'experts' just to fill the airtime..." because nothing major has changed? and that coverage would be over a longer time frame than the plane story.

THey may have reduced coverage on Syria because there are no new real developments (major shifts in areas controlled, no move towards peace, etc... innstead there are still people getting killed in the daily fighting?)

I think there is supposed to be a vote in Crimea on Friday about whether they want to break away from the Ukraine, what are the news channels supposed to do until that vote takes place? keep repeating the same story over and over again about the run up to this vote? Have the Russians advanced into the rest of Ukraine in the last couple of days, have international monitors been allowed into Crimea? or is there no new information or events to report on which haven't already been reported for a while now?

 

[daveinprague]

Syria and Ukraine are just examples....theres so much going on in the world, and I just think spending over an hour discussing why a crashed plane could have turned is slightly over the top.
Its of course, the main item on BBC news as I watch it now.Thankfully, not as over the top as CNN

 

[Napper]

Syria and Ukraine are just examples....theres so much going on in the world, and I just think spending over an hour discussing why a crashed plane could have turned is slightly over the top.
Its of course, the main item on BBC news as I watch it now.Thankfully, not as over the top as CNN

Plane crashes are interesting . That's why so many books , tv series , films on the subject . It's not as common as most news items so captures the imagination .

This thread proves it

 

[Bry Nylon]

Regardless of what may or may not have happened to this plane, the whole management by the local authorities is a ****ing shambles. They seem utterly clueless with no real strategy in place to coordinate or manage any aspect of this event.

 

[hybrid_x]

No, you didnt get it right. Nobody said stop reporting the plane crash..im saying report it in depth, when its found..A plane has crashed into the sea...the crew

Not true. Many parts of a large plane are naturally boyent and would float. Also radar, satellite, and militaty equipment would have found it by now.