it probably did mate , but has been enthusiastically adopted by people who work in personnel departments to make them sound a little bit more important than they really are.
A bit like logistics companys used to be called haulage contractors.
it probably did mate , but has been enthusiastically adopted by people who work in personnel departments to make them sound a little bit more important than they really are.
Both. They have the same right to work here as us and vice versa.
What this story displays is the short-termism of British industry. During the recent recession, housebuilding largely ground to a halt. Many brickies left the trade or emigrated, and training places for new entrants were slashed. It's as if someone thought that the need to build things had permanently diminished, rather than been temporarily reduced by a lack of available capital. Now that the construction sector has picked up, there's a skills shortage. Depressingly predictable.
How is it different to a city having lots of jobs and people commuting to it from smaller towns?
Maybe we should help poorer nations to grow their economies as well?
Also why should someone be bounded as to what they can achieve and how much they can earn simply by the place of their birth?
I'm 25, can I become a brickie? Or is it a trade you need to start when you're 16-18? I'm usefull with my hands, am a hard worker, willing to put the shifts in (can someone please point me in the right direction?). I'm happy to work 12 hrs+, 6 days a week, or is it a trade you need "qualifications"?
I worked on building sites back in the Uk for 25 years and with many different nationalities and one thing I did learn that was the majority of them were what we call in the trade 'line monkeys'
meaning ****ing useless,glorified block layers
I know quite a few decent face brickwork lads in the UK that don't earn nothing like a grand a week
but of course all the experts on here that have never set foot on a building site know far more than me
I'm still plumbing, but I had my own small business since 2002 and most of my work is in occupied houses.
Don't miss site work at all, especially this time of the year.
My grandad was a brickie (foreman bricklayer, actually) and he was always adamant that it was a trade that should reward those with qualifications. I remember my dad asking him for advice about how to build a wall in the garden and getting a very simple answer ... "First you do an apprenticeship ... "I'm 25, can I become a brickie? Or is it a trade you need to start when you're 16-18? I'm usefull with my hands, am a hard worker, willing to put the shifts in (can someone please point me in the right direction?). I'm happy to work 12 hrs+, 6 days a week, or is it a trade you need "qualifications"?
Its the new name for the personnel department that tosspots like dandyman came up with, it stands for human resources.
Other than the 100 or so building workers that I have HR responsibility for you mean ?
get up at 5.30 drive for an hour,pisses down all morning sent home,haven't earned a copper coin,but paid for petrol
welcome to the world of bricklaying
it probably did mate , but has been enthusiastically adopted by people who work in personnel departments to make them sound a little bit more important than they really are.
Like he said. The REAL world. HR what's that. If you can't do the job you are sacked simple as that. You don't get negotiations. Clueless.
No the original point was brickies earning1k a week. That doesn't add up to 100k no matter how hard you try!The original point was that most bricklayers won't earn anything like 100k. Our building workers get a basic plus productivity pay. Top earners are normally plumbers and sparks. Is your experience different to that?
How dare you talk about SIMMOSAYS like that!?[emoji6]View attachment 60766A few of us predicted we'd be on £200 a day by Easter (coming ) a few months ago, at long last were catching up with the 5 hours a day lazy plumbers, they turn up at 9 do a bit of work( if they're doing a private job) for an hour then say "just gotta Pop out down to plumbase to pick up some parts for the job" (which in plumbers code means back down the cafe for a full English) ere's an idea.. Get the parts before you start the job you lazy so and so's
Tap tap about for a couple of hours then have the ordasity to say that'll be £500 madam
You lot just as well go to work dressed up as the pic above
The original point was that most bricklayers won't earn anything like 100k. Our building workers get a basic plus productivity pay. Top earners are normally plumbers and sparks. Is your experience different to that?
It's a horrible term that devalues people and treats them merely as assets on a company balance sheet.
What was wrong with the old name - the "personnel department"?
you ever worked even ONE day on a building site ,let alone 30 years
you wouldn't know a hard days work if it came up and smacked you in the face
cleaners,bar staff,don't make me ****ing laugh,just an excuse to expoilt people,like immigrants!!!
office snobs,you can't beat 'em can you like modern day politicans,totally detached from the outside world