That point is incontstable. Apologies if I gave the impression I disagreed. Othrs on the thread seem to advocate taking a levy from PL clubs to subsidise lower lague clubs.
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[Football] Poor old Bury
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That point is incontstable. Apologies if I gave the impression I disagreed. Othrs on the thread seem to advocate taking a levy from PL clubs to subsidise lower lague clubs.
Raleigh Chopper
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Currently sitting on a park bench with the dog in central park close to Home Park listening to the crowd at a friendly between Bury Argyle and Gas and keeping up to date with the Brum friendly.
Feel for the Bury fans especially after promotion as well.
Feel for the Bury fans especially after promotion as well.
Nottseagull
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I didn't know Plymouth had merged with Bury!
Doesnt the national league have an issue with clubs going bust/financial issues as well?
Nottseagull
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Not so much in their regional divisions (I think). Weren't Gateshead and Hereford United both in the national division? I think we need input from atfc village
Juan Albion
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Manager and some players moved there in the hope of getting paid for their work.
Juan Albion
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Guess who won away today?
Not so much in their regional divisions (I think). Weren't Gateshead and Hereford United both in the national division? I think we need input from atfc village
Yeah, cant say i am an expert - Seem to think Stockport/Gateshead/Halifax/Hereford?
Nottseagull
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I didn't know that. I thought that Raleigh Chopper might possibly have been drinking as he sat on the park bench typing that. That then conjured up images of a bottle in a brown paper bag, with his dog on a piece of string....
Raleigh Chopper
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That as well, Buckfast in a bag.
Yes they have got the ex Bury manager and a few of the players have followed him down.
Sorrel
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First game postponed. Not looking good for Bury. It's really not easy for clubs with small catchment areas overshadowed by other clubs. B&HA have it easy in that regard, especially capturing the idea of the football team for Sussex.
studio150
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First game suspended and another tight deadline of noon this Friday which if the League do not receive the assurances they require then Bury's second league game is also suspended.
Very troubling times for Bury which could well result in them being thrown out of the league and effectively killing the club
Very troubling times for Bury which could well result in them being thrown out of the league and effectively killing the club
How do people feel about the PL taking control of the whole football league?
Given the success they have made of the PL, could they do the same with the football league
Given the success they have made of the PL, could they do the same with the football league
Easy 10
Brain dead MUG SHEEP
By "taking control" what do you mean - funding it ?
The success of the PL is down to the selling of TV rights both here and all over the world. But with the best will in the world, as ITV Digital found out to its ruinous cost, nobody will be interested in paying a subscription to watch the likes of Swindon v Macclesfield, or Portsmouth v Fleetwood, or even West Brom v Massive. The market simply isn't there for TV companies to invest in it, certainly not beyond these shores.
Sky does a good job in covering the Championship and the noddy leagues within their football package. But if they separated the live EFL games away from the PL, nobody would pay extra for it. Certainly not in the numbers to justify doing it.
The ep is a success only because it has the lions share of revenues. Epl clubs are not going to vote to dilute that share to the degree needed for the EFL clubs like Bury to survive.
Running it
The Fl is a bit of a clown show (I’m not saying the Pl is perfect) you have clubs run by terrible owners passing the tests in place, clubs like QPR not paying FFP fines fully etc
If you had the PL running it you could have 1 set of rules for the entire set up again, plus you could protect lower league clubs with new rules when it comes to academy players being sold.
The Championship is a fantastic league, more exciting than the Pl at times - if the marketing team at the PL got hold of it how much more money could they bring in?
Easy 10
Brain dead MUG SHEEP
The PL is its own product now. They'd see no benefit in taking responsibility for 72 other clubs, who they could never successfully market. Yes the Championship IS a fantastic league, but only to a fairly parochial market. Nobody in China, the US or other European markets will give a fig about the English 2nd tier. Its not a viable product to sell, and if Sky didn't bolt it on to its overall football package, we'd barely see it. It doesn't matter how good their marketing team is, you can't sell 2nd division football or lower to a large TV audience, it just doesn't sell.
By rights, the FA and the EFL should step up and get some more effective processes in place to try to stop clubs like Bury going to the wall. But each football club is an independent business, and like any business some are run well and some are run badly. There's only so much that can be done by the authorities.
The Premier League was created so that the rich clubs could get shot of the poor ones, so I doubt they'd be interested.
SeagullinExile
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Dont forget the full timers in the Conference as well.
And now the richest clubs in the Premier League are demanding more. If you compare Manchester United's finances with a small club such as Crystal Palace, in 2018 Manchester United earned £14.97 in commercial income for every £1 generated by Palace, £10.10 in matchday income but 'only' £1.60 in broadcast income, so they petitioned the Premier League to prevent such as outrage occurring again by painting themselves as a victim...and of course it worked.