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Gary Leeds

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May 5, 2008
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The FL should have some sort of rule regarding teams coming into the league while in administration. If a team is relegated to the conference and they have financial problems then they can be forced lower down the ladder (Boston United). Therefore as the Premier league take great pains to let everybody know they are not goverened by the Football League then surely the FL can take any steps they want to a new team entering their league (like not letting Conference winners up because of their ground) from the PL. In this case the FL could turn round and pass a resolution that no team can come down from the Premiership to the Championship while in administration. The 72 chairmen of the FL would pass this with no problem and there would be nothing the PL could do about it. This would then stop any other PL club from going into administration because they will know that they wont get entry into the FL and would have to do what was talked about with Southampton this season and start in the Conference.

Also the PL parachute payments should go straight to the creditors and not the club and if the club folds and reforms taking the old companies league ticket then there should be no parachute payments. Why should the new company with no debts get £16 million for doing nothing

In fact why should there be any parachute payments at all to any club, if the PL spend 16 million x 6 clubs per season(3 clubs relegated this year and 3 clubs the season before) that is 96 million quid a year they pay out in payments for teams no longer in the PL, why cant they give every FL club a million each to keep the game going?
 


Lady Whistledown

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The FL should have some sort of rule regarding teams coming into the league while in administration. If a team is relegated to the conference and they have financial problems then they can be forced lower down the ladder (Boston United). Therefore as the Premier league take great pains to let everybody know they are not goverened by the Football League then surely the FL can take any steps they want to a new team entering their league (like not letting Conference winners up because of their ground) from the PL. In this case the FL could turn round and pass a resolution that no team can come down from the Premiership to the Championship while in administration. The 72 chairmen of the FL would pass this with no problem and there would be nothing the PL could do about it. This would then stop any other PL club from going into administration because they will know that they wont get entry into the FL and would have to do what was talked about with Southampton this season and start in the Conference.

Also the PL parachute payments should go straight to the creditors and not the club and if the club folds and reforms taking the old companies league ticket then there should be no parachute payments. Why should the new company with no debts get £16 million for doing nothing

In fact why should there be any parachute payments at all to any club, if the PL spend 16 million x 6 clubs per season(3 clubs relegated this year and 3 clubs the season before) that is 96 million quid a year they pay out in payments for teams no longer in the PL, why cant they give every FL club a million each to keep the game going?

Given the talk previously of the PL pulling up the drawbridge and having no promotion/relegation, I wouldn't have thought the FL would ever in a million years have the balls to stand up to them in this way.

I would LOVE to see the FL taking such a stand, but realistically it ain't gonna happen, because the PL would stamp their feet, I'm sure of it.
 


Hove Seagull

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Feb 18, 2008
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Given the talk previously of the PL pulling up the drawbridge and having no promotion/relegation, I wouldn't have thought the FL would ever in a million years have the balls to stand up to them in this way.

I would LOVE to see the FL taking such a stand, but realistically it ain't gonna happen, because the PL would stamp their feet, I'm sure of it.

Actually, bollocks to the premier league and their collection of the worlds finest cheats and divers! So much better watching the Albion at Charlton on Tuesday night!
 


PILTDOWN MAN

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The FL should have some sort of rule regarding teams coming into the league while in administration. If a team is relegated to the conference and they have financial problems then they can be forced lower down the ladder (Boston United). Therefore as the Premier league take great pains to let everybody know they are not goverened by the Football League then surely the FL can take any steps they want to a new team entering their league (like not letting Conference winners up because of their ground) from the PL. In this case the FL could turn round and pass a resolution that no team can come down from the Premiership to the Championship while in administration. The 72 chairmen of the FL would pass this with no problem and there would be nothing the PL could do about it. This would then stop any other PL club from going into administration because they will know that they wont get entry into the FL and would have to do what was talked about with Southampton this season and start in the Conference.

Also the PL parachute payments should go straight to the creditors and not the club and if the club folds and reforms taking the old companies league ticket then there should be no parachute payments. Why should the new company with no debts get £16 million for doing nothing

In fact why should there be any parachute payments at all to any club, if the PL spend 16 million x 6 clubs per season(3 clubs relegated this year and 3 clubs the season before) that is 96 million quid a year they pay out in payments for teams no longer in the PL, why cant they give every FL club a million each to keep the game going?

As I stated in my post there is a regulation regarding entry into the league regardless of whether its through promotion or relegation, so it could be interesting if this is adhered to.
 




They will end up with a CVA and if it's anything like a company I worked with who did the same, if the largest 'so called' creditors get their way, there is nothing the genuine creditors can do.

It could be a stitch up of the highest order but if the Administrator does his job properly, at the very least he should have an investigation carried out as to what went wrong, who was responsible and to ensure they cannot be Directors again :angry:
 


Gary Leeds

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Given the talk previously of the PL pulling up the drawbridge and having no promotion/relegation, I wouldn't have thought the FL would ever in a million years have the balls to stand up to them in this way.

I would LOVE to see the FL taking such a stand, but realistically it ain't gonna happen, because the PL would stamp their feet, I'm sure of it.

Portsmouth are an embarrasment to the PL, they see it as damaging to their reputation that one of their clubs has gone into administration. If anything this would help the PL to control their clubs spending if they know that once they go into admin there is no quick way back
 


Lady Whistledown

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Actually, bollocks to the premier league and their collection of the worlds finest cheats and divers! So much better watching the Albion at Charlton on Tuesday night!

You know what, on that subject (sort of) I honestly prefer watching the Football League Show on BBC1 to Match Of The Day.

I can't put my finger on why, maybe it's a reaction to the wall-to-wall Premier League coverage we get bombarded with, or the crap presenting skills and endless over-analysis of the MotD golfing buddies on the sofa.

But there's just something that makes me want to stay up, even after the Albion goals have been shown, to watch Shrewsbury beating Accrington, or Lincoln v Darlington and so on. You get some great goals, brilliant comedy moments (Plymouth's OG against Leicester last week, anyone?) and quality punch ups, usually involving Derby and/or Forest. And considerably less diving.

Though everyone wants to be in the PL, I can quite understand fans of some clubs when they say they're more than happy to be back when they get relegated to the Championship.
 






Captain Haddock

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I, too, am a big fan of the BBC's Football League highlights, though would be good if they skipped The Chamionship as feature-highlights focus once in a while in favour of a key L1 game.
 


clapham_gull

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Aug 20, 2003
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The current owner (who appears somewhat blameless as the club literally fell into his hands) has some sort of secured creditor status that ensures he is first in the queue apparantly.
 






Lady Whistledown

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If only they would drop that bloomin' fans texts bit. That is frankly embarrassing.

Oh God, don't get me started on the fans text bit. Full of clueless morons complaining because they've lost a single game, or claiming the title is in the bag because they've won a couple.

"And here's a text from Steve in Leeds, who's a Leeds fan, and he says "SIMON GREYSON IS GOD sUPER lEEDS def goin up this season"- thank you Steve- while Craig from Norwich is furious about the Canaries' defeat today and says "Delia sort it out, Lambert is tactically naive and doesn't know his best side...we may be 38 points clear at the top and have had 21 games unbeaten before today but Lambert's future MUST be in question unless he gets it right on Tuesday".

Brilliant. Football really needs such insight.
 


PILTDOWN MAN

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This is the policy regarding entry into the league via promotion but I have been informed that it applies to relegated clubs also.

http://www.football-league.co.uk/staticFiles/b/3d/0,,10794~146699,00.pdf

INSOLVENCY POLICY
A club will not be eligible for membership of The Football League if by the second Saturday in May in the current year it:-



Has a manager, administrator, receiver or administrative receiver appointed in respect of that club or any part of its undertaking or assets.

Has an administration order made in respect of that club.

Has a winding-up order made in respect of that club.

Has passed a resolution for the winding-up of that club

Has entered into any arrangement with its creditors or some part of them in respect of the payment of its debts or part of them as a Company Voluntary Arrangement under the Insolvency Act 1986 or Scheme of Arrangement under the Companies Act 1985 (and any statutory modification or re-enactment of either of those acts for the time being in force).

Has any proceeding or step taken or any court order in any jurisdiction made which as a substantially similar effect to the foregoing.
 






Lady Whistledown

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Some of the views on John PFC Westwood on the Pompey board:

-Got to agree with the scummer. Westwood IS the ultimately embarrassing figurehead for our fans. Why anyone would be remotely interested in what that drunken idiot has got say is beyond me.

-I do find it irritating that the only people who ever step forward to "speak on behalf" of PFC's fans always come across as complete thicko's. There must be some intelligent fans of our great club out there somewhere who would like to speak on our behalf?

-Why don't you put yourself forward then?

-Because I'm not a raving self publicist, which seems to be the major qualification required?


-I don't sit in the FE so don't bump into JW that often. But I was near him outside St Mary's a couple of weeks ago, Lots of fans were going up to him and posing for photos. It was like having your photo with the elephant man...This fawning just shows the inadequacies of many of our fans who trail this guy like a hero.


:lolol::lolol:
 


Questions

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Oct 18, 2006
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Well what an ENORMOUS surprise. The BBC were looking for an average Pompey fan's view on the situation and GUESS which one they found?

The utter tool (fully dressed, as one always does on a Friday morning, in stupid hat, manky wig, blue-checked waistcoat and shorts, as usual) appears to be on the verge of tears.

Here's the link if you want to watch him struggling to hold the emotions back:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/hampshire/8538776.stm

Sorry, but :lolol: :lolol: :lolol:



Dont laugh. Its Attila but with a wig and tattoos.

at least he`s not playing a violin.
 


Lady Whistledown

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Dont laugh. Its Attila but with a wig and tattoos.

at least he`s not playing a violin.

How odd, I was just thinking the exact same thing, but a moment ago :lolol:

Maybe every club has one???
 




Gary Leeds

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May 5, 2008
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The current owner (who appears somewhat blameless as the club literally fell into his hands) has some sort of secured creditor status that ensures he is first in the queue apparantly.

Has he not also ensured that he now owns the ground and not Portsmouth FC? Cant see there being much chance of him losing money on the deal
 


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