Police to strike ?

[bhaexpress]

Am I right in thinking that British Policemen and women are actually American ? Why hate them all of a sudden ? I bet I have a bigger axe to grind than most but I still see them as a body who have to do a very difficult job with quite often limited resources and support.

 

[Nibble]

Totally agree, Nibble. I dare say we have one of the best police services in the world.

I love the way people complain about the police being useless, overpaid etc. but can you imagine these detractors taking the job? I don't think many of them would be happy with a night shift dealing with drunken yobs firing abuse at them.

Also, why are they criticised for their lack of appearance on the street? Surely they are instructed to follow orders and the criticism should be levied at the Police hierarchy..?

Absaloutley. I think a lot of people just want to appear down with the struggling classes. Hilarious they site the miners strike as if it has anything to do with how policing is operated today. The miners, the miners! When was the last time any of you lot were down the bloody mines?

Most of the people complaining on this board would turn to the police straight away if they were in trouble yet deride them from a safe distance.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

If it is illegal for the cops to strike....and they did strike.....who would arrest them?

Their thoughts on industrial action seem to have changed since 1984.

 

[Storer68]

i think this issue is not so much about the actual pay, but the way the government agreed a deal then apparently pulled back on some of it. bascially the government is incompetent and now has lost the support of the police, its really not very clever.

its all about pay - the governemt is totally skint thanks to northern rock and he war in iraq.

abd the police are (aprt from the nurses and teachers) are the only publuc sector workers who have had monaey thrown at them - but now they are coplaining.

Makes my 1.5% delayed for eight months but not backdated and employer imposed pay settlement look almost worth waiting for!

 

[maffew]

if anyone thinks the police are overpaid for the shit they have to put up with then they are deluded (IMO)

Police pay is pretty poor

 

[glasfryn]

You can bang on about how bad the Police are but with the exception of say the Fireman on here (Bry?) they do a far more dangerous and worthy job than ANY of us.

They put up with violence, abuse, threats, physical assault etc etc and the only reason that they might not be able to get to you on time is because they are understaffed, underbudgeted and under immense pressure.

Just 'cos you don't like being told what to do at a football match it doesn't mean that the Police don't help real people with real problems every hour of every day 365 days a year.

Oh yes .........................I was a prison officer at Chelmsford when they had the riots there police, army, they all refused to come in and it was left to the good old screws to sort it out again they are all OK when mob handed but when confronted by 150 very angry convicts they bottled it basically they know what to expect when signing the dotted line they are not forced to stay on get another job be a prison officer but........................oh no the money is shit and you might have to work for it .
rant over .............sorry but I get sick of people asking for more money when cruising around in patrol cars like gods and I feel for the ones that actually do some genuine work.

I aways have this image of some poor sod at the bottom of Bear rd Sunday morning waiting for his lift to Sunday football match and 4 police officers hassling him and when I intervened jumped into their car,laughing . give them pay on results and see how long they last.

 

[Nibble]

The point is though they were promised a certain pay rise and then got jipped out ofthe backdated pay which meant the rise fell below the promised increase. If it was up to me I would give them a much higher wage full stop. Along with Nurses, teachers, prison warders, firefighters, paramedics and the Forces.

 

[NMH]

You can bang on about how bad the Police are but with the exception of say the Fireman on here (Bry?) they do a far more dangerous and worthy job than ANY of us.

They put up with violence, abuse, threats, physical assault etc etc and the only reason that they might not be able to get to you on time is because they are understaffed, underbudgeted and under immense pressure.

Just 'cos you don't like being told what to do at a football match it doesn't mean that the Police don't help real people with real problems every hour of every day 365 days a year.

I thought the people telling you what to do at matches were stewards - perhaps the ob's wages should be shared with the girls and boys in high-vis.

 

[Questions]

The point is though they were promised a certain pay rise and then got jipped out ofthe backdated pay which meant the rise fell below the promised increase. If it was up to me I would give them a much higher wage full stop. Along with Nurses, teachers, prison warders, firefighters, paramedics and the Forces.

Nibble. They get very well paid for..................... as they are always telling us....

filling out forms.

 

[Nibble]

I suppose it is tradition to hate Police. I'm assuming then that if you were being burgled or your child went missing you wouldn't be calling these overpaid, useless form fillers?

 

[Simster]

Why are the police to blame for the 1984 miners strikes? They were the fault of Thatch, not the police who were simply doing their job. I'm sure there were twats policing the picket lines, because there are lots of twats in the police. But this was not a problem of their making.

Anyway, whilst I do think the police are overpaid, I think the government have f***ed up royally here. An independent arbitration panel agreed that pay rise, and the government have reneged on it which is an abuse of power. What's the point of arbetration if one side can back out of the deal? And why go through all of this? We're talking about a tiny figure of £30 million! For a government that has spent £6 BILLION on an illegal war, they've got some f***ing nerve banging on about the need to be thrifty to curb inflationary pressures.

 

[Questions]

Why are the police to blame for the 1984 miners strikes? They were the fault of Thatch, not the police who were simply doing their job. I'm sure there were twats policing the picket lines, because there are lots of twats in the police. But this was not a problem of their making.

Anyway, whilst I do think the police are overpaid, I think the government have f***ed up royally here. An independent arbitration panel agreed that pay rise, and the government have reneged on it which is an abuse of power. What's the point of arbetration if one side can back out of the deal? And why go through all of this? We're talking about a tiny figure of £30 million! For a government that has spent £6 BILLION on an illegal war, they've got some f***ing nerve banging on about the need to be thrifty to curb inflationary pressures.

Who said the police were to blame for the miners strike ?


The police normally 'deal with'' those who would dare demonstrate - abeit sometimes enthusiastically - against any renaged on deal by our governments.

Its the irony of it all...............

 

[Jam The Man]

I wonder how many of the posters on here actually realise how little the police get paid - i'm not an officer, but i work for the police, and believe me, if we're talking your standard PC, then it ain't much...and it certainly isn't enough for such a thankless task...

 

[nail-Z]

I don't have a problem with the police.

I do have a problem with striking though, regardless of which profession it is. Striking proves nothing and only serves to cause maximum disruption to people who are not in a position to do anything about it.

My view is very simple. If you don't think you're being rewarded fairly for the job you do, get a different job. If you can't, then maybe your wage matches your skills and earning potential and isn't as bad as you think.

 

[Jam The Man]

I'm not keen on striking either - i didn't strike when given the opportunity as i'm not that militant personally

Hopefully the issue will be appropriately sorted out long before any real thoughts of striking are put to the sword...

 

[Yorkie]

The police are lucky they have been offered a pay rise (ok so the 2.9% is actually now 1.5% because it isn't being backdated) because the CPS has been told that progression increments are enough for this year.

 

[bhaexpress]

The bottom line for me is that very few people on here have to go to work each day not knowing if they'll be abused, assaulted, accused of some crime against the person or worse as an occupational hazard. When the shit starts to fly the vast majority of people look for the Police to wade in and help them.

 

[Questions]

The bottom line for me is that very few people on here have to go to work each day not knowing if they'll be abused, assaulted, accused of some crime against the person or worse as an occupational hazard. When the shit starts to fly the vast majority of people look for the Police to wade in and help them.

You want to work on the buildings then Frankie baby. All thats compulsory.

 

[ElderlyWilliam]

I have been in the police for 25 years. Next year will be my 40th season of supporting the Albion, and I have had a Season Ticket for over ten years now.

I have never assaulted anyone, nor have I ever falsified claims for overtime or other expenses. I don't have a fat arse nor do I eat donuts. What I do do is a job which 99% of the general public would not dream of doing, especially at 4am. Police officers make mistakes, have always made mistakes, and will continue to do so.

Some things which have happened over the past 25 years have saddened me, but making mistakes is part of being human.

This pay dispute is not about money. It is about the arrogance of a government who enter into arbitration and then make up their own rules when the decision goes against them, unless you live in Scotland. It is a matter of principle.

Up the Albion.

EW

 

[Freddie Goodwin.]

As football fans, most of us have come across the type of bad copper who's up for throwing his weight around, almost like a leagalised thug. Thankfully, these are few and far between and the whole football policing thing is so much better.

You have to believe that the vast majority are good coppers who are genuine in their duties and work often in the face of those who will try to find fault.

I don't know the in's & out's of the pay deal but the govn has gone back on a deal and that's not right.

A big hand to all the old bill on here. Not likely to meet as my days of being ejected from grounds should now be over!