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[Albion] Police in Croydon yesterday







BNthree

Plastic JCL
Sep 14, 2016
11,452
WeHo
The bloke in this video is a mate of mine. He understandably was not happy with the way the police were treating his son for no reason. Ended up arrested, charged with affray, spent today in hospital due to injuries caused by the police and with his season ticket taken away. Serious over reaction by the old bill and I really hope Paul Barber looks at this video before banning a bloke who was just trying to look after his son

Should get the FSF involved.
 






Seasider78

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Nov 14, 2004
6,011
Funny that whilst the rest of the world has moved on some forces insist on continuing to police football matches like it’s the 70s

Provocative tactics that I can’t help but think get the reaction they are looking for.
 




Beach Hut

Brighton Bhuna Boy
Jul 5, 2003
72,315
Living In a Box
When the cordon moved up from the away end and turned left numerous fans left it by going straight on, I did not see any challenged or stopped leaving the escort however it may have been just at the time I was there.
 


The Clamp

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Jan 11, 2016
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Funny that whilst the rest of the world has moved on some forces insist on continuing to police football matches like it’s the 70s

Provocative tactics that I can’t help but think get the reaction they are looking for.

Quite. There’s only so much shoving between the shoulder blades one is going to stand for until you turn round and say something which the police in these situations take as a green light to take you to the ground.
I rate the police highly in some situations. They’ve seriously let themselves down here.
I feel for this chap and his Dad, what should have been a celebratory time will now he remembered for something quite different.
I hope he recovers quickly and can put this behind him. Poor bloody bloke.
 


Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's Tackle
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Oct 8, 2003
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Faversham
It's always been the same at this fixture, they just kettle you to the train station and make you get on a train, even if you don't live in Sussex! Remember back in the early noughties coming out with the crowd, trying to make my way to a bus stop to catch the bus home and being push back and forth to the train station. They wouldn't listen, didn't give a shit, they just want to overwhelm you with force to keep you intimidated.

This. Did it to me with my son in the early noughties. Avoidable tiresomeness is one thing. Unavoidable shit forced on me . . .We ended up lost, a long way from the car, while Croydonian spotty youth and fat older blokes with no hair ran up and down the streets in an alarming manner. That was the last time I went. I vowed to never go back. Nothing to do with the so called rivalry, just on the basis of my away day experiences. The club is shit, the police they liaise with are shit, and the sooner they are relegated into oblivion the better.
 




timbha

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Jul 5, 2003
10,506
Sussex
sadly when the police, in particular the Mets have safety in numbers human rights go out the window and gets replaced by anonymous police brutality and thuggery.
 


BN9 BHA

DOCKERS
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Jul 14, 2013
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Newhaven
If my dad was in hospital as a result in being arrested I wouldn't open up twitter and tweet "Oh what a nightttt��"

I'm not disputing anything I just think its unusual


"Oh what a night " Tweet
Sent at 14.46 yesterday afternoon BTW, not sure what time the video was recorded but I'm guessing he may have still been in the stadium. ???
 






GT49er

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Feb 1, 2009
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Obviously we don't know the full story from that video, but it certainly looks bad behaviour by the police -there was ni immediate threat that warranted five or six officers piling in to take a man down.

If the magistrates don't throw the case out, and they fine him, should be a bucket collection at the next home match to pay the fine (any surplus to the REMF).

And if he is an STH, and the club have cancelled his season ticket, they would seem to have over-reacted. Some sort of orderly protest to PB surely justified?
 




el punal

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Aug 29, 2012
12,545
The dull part of the south coast
Obviously we don't know the full story from that video, but it certainly looks bad behaviour by the police -there was ni immediate threat that warranted five or six officers piling in to take a man down.

If the magistrates don't throw the case out, and they fine him, should be a bucket collection at the next home match to pay the fine (any surplus to the REMF).

And if he is an STH, and the club have cancelled his season ticket, they would seem to have over-reacted. Some sort of orderly protest to PB surely justified?

Not wishing to condone or condemn anyone but your opening words really sum it up. Who knows what went on before and the reasons for the police reaction. A snapshot of an incident without an explanation. Bearing in mind the nature of this fixture, both home and away, “robust” policing goes with territory, and unfortunately for us peaceful and law abiding fans we have to accept it.
 




Perkino

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Dec 11, 2009
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We've seen at the Amex that some fans come looking for aggro, I like the rugby idea of no segregation just expect people to act humanely and very little police involved
 


el punal

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Aug 29, 2012
12,545
The dull part of the south coast
This. Did it to me with my son in the early noughties. Avoidable tiresomeness is one thing. Unavoidable shit forced on me . . .We ended up lost, a long way from the car, while Croydonian spotty youth and fat older blokes with no hair ran up and down the streets in an alarming manner. That was the last time I went. I vowed to never go back. Nothing to do with the so called rivalry, just on the basis of my away day experiences. The club is shit, the police they liaise with are shit, and the sooner they are relegated into oblivion the better.

Selhurst Park is one away ground that I’ll never go back to. I hate the dump. Despite having been there numerous times I just don’t enjoy Albion v Palace games anymore - it’s all I can do to suffer our fixture at the Amex. The 2-0 defeat in the playoffs did it for me. Your post perfectly describe my feelings and I sincerely hope your wish in the final sentence comes true.
 


GT49er

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Feb 1, 2009
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Gloucester
Not wishing to condone or condemn anyone but your opening words really sum it up. Who knows what went on before and the reasons for the police reaction. A snapshot of an incident without an explanation. Bearing in mind the nature of this fixture, both home and away, “robust” policing goes with territory, and unfortunately for us peaceful and law abiding fans we have to accept it.

True. Even so, if the magistrate's see the video (and the defence should certainly use it) the police will have quite a job to justify the apparently excessive show of force, five or six riot police piling into one man when there wasn't actually a riot, and no evidence of a threat to security.
 


portlock seagull

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Jul 28, 2003
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This. Did it to me with my son in the early noughties. Avoidable tiresomeness is one thing. Unavoidable shit forced on me . . .We ended up lost, a long way from the car, while Croydonian spotty youth and fat older blokes with no hair ran up and down the streets in an alarming manner. That was the last time I went. I vowed to never go back. Nothing to do with the so called rivalry, just on the basis of my away day experiences. The club is shit, the police they liaise with are shit, and the sooner they are relegated into oblivion the better.
I’m in this camp too.
 




el punal

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Aug 29, 2012
12,545
The dull part of the south coast
True. Even so, if the magistrate's see the video (and the defence should certainly use it) the police will have quite a job to justify the apparently excessive show of force, five or six riot police piling into one man when there wasn't actually a riot, and no evidence of a threat to security.

Was the gentleman in question charged with an offence, and for what? I would imagine that the police would have their own video evidence to justify their actions which might throw more light on the proceedings.
 


Foul Play Rocks

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Feb 23, 2013
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When the cordon moved up from the away end and turned left numerous fans left it by going straight on, I did not see any challenged or stopped leaving the escort however it may have been just at the time I was there.
I was one of those who slipped away and as you say was not stopped. Still missed my planned train from Selhurst.
 


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