Police gathering at St Peter's Church, Brighton

[BadFish]

The problem is that you re assuming they want to get out of it because thats what you would do. They like it too much sit around smoking weed, they dont want to have to work hard. I was pretty much the same at that age never got anything done, you have a different perspective at that age although i didnt get involved in criminal stuff, my brother did though, used to sell drugs, steal clothes from shops. As for his mates its still a way of life now, theyve barely worked in 15 odd years of adult life

I am not assuming that they want to get out of it. What I am saying is that there are reasons that they want to live this life, mainly that their options are narrow and few (by their perception at least). Those reasons are many and varied I suspect and some are just lazy but most don't know any other way and can't see any other way out the shit situation they were born into.

Why would someone keep trying to get out of a situation they see no way out of? It is easier and less frustration to accept your lot and make the best of it.

I too was the same at their age but reflecting on the reasons it goes deeper than just having fun. There was a recession on i saw no opportunity to find a job that interested me, I tried a business studies course at college and they told me I would graduate as fodder for TSB or Amex. I saw very little future for myself and for my friends so I got of my nut in fields and at parties and spent days on end sat round a bong. Luckily I had some things going for me that people born into poverty do not. I had a supportive family background and working family culture, a reasonable education and a wide network of people who offered me opportunities to sort my self out.

 

[Davemania]

I used to think it was a great way of life at that age. Really its not a case that they think theres no other options available to them, theyre not interested in those options when they can make plenty of cash already and have an easy life at the same time if they keep it relatively small scale and are careful and the govt hasnt helped giving them a load of benefits on top of it. hmmm 18 years old load of tax free cash available by selling drugs to mates and associates and by nicking stuff vs having to work 40 hour weeks for less. They could get educated if they wanted to, get better paid jobs but its a whole lot more effort and isnt as attractive a lifestyle to them anyway. They like it

 

[Davemania]

And if all these poor kids just dont have any options available to them why do you think all this looting is going on? Is it because they are literally so poverty stricken that they have to do it to feed themselves? Or is it because they perceive a great opportunity to make some very easy money because the police cant cope with it all. They are choosing the easy option because its a lot less effort than having to go out and work for it. And before anyone says oh but there arent any jobs for the poor little darlings...they dont want to have to get an f-ingggg job anyway

 

[BadFish]

I used to think it was a great way of life at that age. Really its not a case that they think theres no other options available to them, they're not interested in those options when they can make plenty of cash already and have an easy life at the same time if they keep it relatively small scale and are careful and the govt hasnt helped giving them a load of benefits on top of it. hmmm 18 years old load of tax free cash available by selling drugs to mates and associates and by nicking stuff vs having to work 40 hour weeks for less. They could get educated if they wanted to, get better paid jobs but its a whole lot more effort and isnt as attractive a lifestyle to them anyway. They like it

They like it because they are born into this kind of culture. They are disconnected from the rest of society, they feel no support from the police or the political system.

I am reading a book at the moment called 'disconnected' which talks to youth across Britain about their viewpoints on life and society, it is really interesting to read how people are feeling. Much of what i have read so far points to huge disconnection and dissatisfaction.

 

[Davemania]

Who says its better to get a career, mortgage and everything else involved anyway? Why do we assume that everyone would want that? Just because you study get a better paid job why would that mean that someone is happier with life?

 

[BadFish]

I am not saying that makes you happy. But i think you are misjudging the levels of frustration and feelings of isolation and disconnection felt within the section of society that has chosen to behave in such a despicable way.

I don't think this is simply about opportunity to get easy material goods. It is far more complicated than that.

 

[Davemania]

Nah its not, its opportunistic theft, theres nothing political about it. Theyve seen how weak and impotent the police are and taken full advantage

 

[BHAFC_Pandapops]

I've got a thermos of coffee and my cricket bat at the ready. Oh and a a freshly painted sign directing them towards the Goldstone retail park.

Enemy at the turnstiles, Boz.

 

[BadFish]

Nah its not, its opportunistic theft, theres nothing political about it. Theyve seen how weak and impotent the police are and taken full advantage

It really saddens me that you can write off such a large group of people all round the country and simply lazy lawless thieving scum. This suggests that their is no hope for this ever growing group of people and no hope for British society.

 

[The Modfather]

Huge assumptions being made that the looters are under priviliged, unemployed etc.

A number of those arrested/charged are employed, including a teaching assistant in a primary school.

 

[Surport Local Team]

also daughter from privilege background whose dad owns a company, training nurse, army recruitment officer etc these r not all people with no future, but just opportunistic thief's/ bad people

 

[Brighton1]

are you indentifying that most of the rioters in London are black, or are you saying they are rioting because they are black. one is factual, one is racist. shellsuit, by infering that a non-black community wont riot, is being the latter. by focusing on the colour you ignore the issues.

Did you read what I wrote? Either way please read it again and let me know if you still need an answer to your question! "From all the clips i've seen on the news I would say the vast majority are black. Am I now racist for saying that?"

 

[BadFish]

Did you read what I wrote? Either way please read it again and let me know if you still need an answer to your question! "From all the clips i've seen on the news I would say the vast majority are black. Am I now racist for saying that?"

I reckon you have excellent eyesight, maybe even x ray because most of the images i have seen have been covered in masks and hoods so i can't be sure what race they are. Or maybe i haven't taken much notice because THIS IS NOT A RACE ISSUE!. If you try and find a race issue in this then people will assume you are racist.

 

[Brighton1]

I reckon you have excellent eyesight, maybe even x ray because most of the images i have seen have been covered in masks and hoods so i can't be sure what race they are. Or maybe i haven't taken much notice because THIS IS NOT A RACE ISSUE!. If you try and find a race issue in this then people will assume you are racist.

If you look back at my original post and our subsequent communications you will realise if you have half a brain your being either stupid or just a cock.