police dealing with incident on London bridge.,

[The Clamp]

Well, for right or wrong there will be less tolerance toward the more questionable aspects of Islam and I for one welcome their bullshit ideals and crackpot, murderous religion being held up to closer scrutiny.

 

[Sussex Nomad]

Take them off the streets and place them where? If it is in prison then you run the risk of others in the institutions being radicalised and them meeting up with other militants, unless you keep them completely separate from others which requires major expenditure on prison infrastructure and staffing. The evidence of a link between prisons and terrorist acts is well established.

Alternatively you keep them under close surveillance hoping that this will lead you to others ensuring that you do this closely enough so that they don't fall off the radar.If they are obviously an immediate threat or actively involved in recruitment then you to take them off the street. This all requires money. I may be wrong on this but in fighting the IRA, the use of informers seemed a far more effective tool than internment. This is only a limited parallel as I think it would be a major task in turning a jihadi into an informer but it may highlight the benefits of intelligence-led methods. The problem with them is that they are by definition carried out by stealth which does not provide headlines.

And put them in prison which in your previous paragraph said we cannot afford, etc., etc. Ever decreasing circles?

 

[sydney]

Take them off the streets and place them where? If it is in prison then you run the risk of others in the institutions being radicalised and them meeting up with other militants, unless you keep them completely separate from others which requires major expenditure on prison infrastructure and staffing. The evidence of a link between prisons and terrorist acts is well established.

Alternatively you keep them under close surveillance hoping that this will lead you to others ensuring that you do this closely enough so that they don't fall off the radar.If they are obviously an immediate threat or actively involved in recruitment then you to take them off the street. This all requires money. I may be wrong on this but in fighting the IRA, the use of informers seemed a far more effective tool than internment. This is only a limited parallel as I think it would be a major task in turning a jihadi into an informer but it may highlight the benefits of intelligence-led methods. The problem with them is that they are by definition carried out by stealth which does not provide headlines.

they are killing people on the streets....corporal punishment .....hung , wrapped in pig skin , sailed out to the continental shelf......

 

[e77]

think not old boy ....just a hard core minority who want to give it some .....i think the best way would be face to face , hand to hand combat ....snowdonia , sugarloaf mountains, brecon beacons , ditchling , cissbury ****ing ring ......show yourselves ....let's sort this out , but they won't because they are an inferior race....and that is a fact , our compassion will be our down fall , our sympathy for a pathetic bunch of kiddy fiddling , historical ,run away merchants......they came our way because we have a weak government.....do your history.

'Inferior race'. You are a racist and with that I am out.


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[dingodan]

Sorry, am I missing something from that Wiki garble?

Trying to understand how this link helps answer the question? #wtf

Targeting a minority group & smashing up their places of business and worship was how the holocaust started.

 

[Baker lite]

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This should be viewed as treason, ****ing animals! these are the type of Muslims the UK needs to deal with.

Spot on,every single one of those should be arrested,given two options,spend the rest of your life jail or **** off to whatever fly infested khazi shares the same views of you.
Dirty,dirty ***** of people.

 

[Eeyore]

I don't have a problem with this and I would include anyone preaching this Islamic ideology and demonising western culture in public. The least they should get are ASBO's. I've been watching videos from Speakers Corner weekly and there are a few there who specialise in undermining science, and when they get caught out and proved that they are lying they will still use that lie when promoting their bullshit to the next people they speak to.

Lying and deceiving people deliberately is evil.

The video below has a guy called Rob who has gone to great lengths to expose an evolution disputer. I would arrest this Suboor who is very good at what he has been trained to do. Deliberate deception in public should be an offense.

https://youtu.be/uJ9klapm_bg

That's a lot of folk being charged. Most of us at some stage. Where do we start ? Newspapers ? Pub talk ? NSC ?

 

[Sussex Nomad]

Targeting a minority group & smashing up their places of business and worship was how the holocaust started.

But that has absolutely nothing to do with the question I posed.

 

[sydney]

run away worthing boy ....rose 'n' crown any day..............racist , realist . pacifist, murderer , terrorist.......read the first 14 words of my post you fecking numpty.

 

[atomised]

so is that what its come to....??....i'll wait for the usual suspects to amble along with their non-descript , placative, lipstick around the nipple , lefty , jizz swigging bollox.........lets not forget we have a vote on Tuesday....ring any bells.......??

You get a special vote 2 days early? Where do I sign up?

 

[lawros left foot]

Trying to remember a time in recent history where Jews have bombed, maimed, killed, terrorised the British public... still thinking, hmmmm nope can't think of any, please tell me when this has been happening.

Perhaps not the British public,but certainly the British military, 1946, King David Hotel Jerusalem . 91 people dead from a bomb planted by the Zionist Irgun, terrorist organisation

 

[symyjym]

Off course more police would be better. But they are not going to stop these attacks.

As I said, if someone is under surveillance, take them off the street. If the current legal framework doesn't allow that. Change it. Maybe accepting we are in a war with these people, would be a start.

This is the approach they Syrian Government took. The only trouble was we were supporting the Wahhabist Muslims who took up arms against them.

Assad knows exactly what ideology he is fighting, our government doesn't. It's ironic that we are getting the same problems from the same Muslims that Assad has been dealing with.

 

[symyjym]

That's a lot of folk being charged. Most of us at some stage. Where do we start ? Newspapers ? Pub talk ? NSC ?

You haven't even listened to it.

 

[Sussex Nomad]

Perhaps not the British public,but certainly the British military, 1946, King David Hotel Jerusalem . 91 people dead from a bomb planted by the Zionist Irgun, terrorist organisation

Perhaps I didn't make myself clear, my bad. Recent history as in recent years, not 18 years before I was born!

 

[dingodan]

But that has absolutely nothing to do with the question I posed.

The question you posed had nothing to do with the point being made. The poster wasn't suggesting we smash up jewish places of business, he was drawing parallels between some of the attitudes being expressed on here and history.

 

[The Clamp]

I was insanely hungover this morning and posted in anger. I retract my bulldoze statement but stand by the principal that we must acknowledge we are now at war with a section of the Islamic community.

 

[sydney]

'Inferior race'. You are a racist and with that I am out.


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actually ....you are so wrong , will you ever see how wrong you are ..??

 

[Buzzer]

That's a lot of folk being charged. Most of us at some stage. Where do we start ? Newspapers ? Pub talk ? NSC ?

I agree. The problem is clearly Islam and we do need to ask serious questions about it and all those who follow it but let's remember we live in a free society where people have the right to express views that we find abhorrent. I find much of Islam goes against Western liberal values and it seriously needs a reformation but bulldozing mosques isn't the answer.

We need to do away with the idea that we can't insult Muhammed and we can't insult Islam. It's just a belief system, people should be allowed to hate it but likewise people should also be allowed to follow it. Just make sure that the values that we hold dear are the ones that have absolute precedence over any religious beliefs and these are the ones we promote and protect.

 

[lawros left foot]

actually ....you are so wrong , will you ever see how wrong you are ..??

If you call other races inferior, you open your self up to accusations of racism, whether you are or not.

 

[Sussex Nomad]

Will there be time to smash in the windows of Jewish owned shops after you bulldoze the Mosques?

The question you posed had nothing to do with the point being made. The poster wasn't suggesting we smash up jewish places of business, he was drawing parallels between some of the attitudes being expressed on here and history.

Nope, still in the dark. Why would we smash up places of faiths that are not directly afflicting the British public? Perhaps there was a varying degree of sarcasm in the post, I don't know, but that doesn't make my question null and void, unlike your answer. People have a right to be angered by the recent events in Manchester and London (x2) because it really is a case of enough is enough. If other faiths and races can integrate into the British way of life with relative ease, why can the muslim faith not? The British people, as a rule, are a very tolerant bunch, but this is now going way too far for us to sit back and take it. However, it doesn't mean once we get rid of the muslim cancer on our society that we'll turn on someone else because we have no-one left to hate.