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Playing 3rd from group AC or D if we top the group



Paul Reids Sock

Well-known member
Nov 3, 2004
4,458
Paul Reids boot
How on earth is it even decided? Why can we only play 3rd from 3 groups and not all of them?!

This tournament makes my head hurt!
 




smeariestbat

New member
May 5, 2012
1,731
At a wedding saturday and will be on a plane monday night, so whatever happens i'm missing the next game. Inless we happen to qualify in 3rd....
 




scousefan

Well-known member
Apr 26, 2009
1,242
Liverpool
It will get interesting if Croatia are banned today. I assume that then only two could progress from group D? Then IF we win tonight, a tie vs Albania becomes very possible. If Albania don't qualify as one of four 3rd place qualifiers from 5 groups, we would then play 3rd from group C.
 


Pantani

Il Pirata
Dec 3, 2008
5,445
Newcastle
Albania are not likely to make it with GD -2 in which case England almost certainly will face Group D 3rd placers, likely Czech Republic. Skalak really could line up against us.

NI will almost certainly face France if they finish 3rd.

Not sure about that. Group E will almost certainly not see a 3rd place qualifier. England then win 3-0 tonight, Albania are probably through. Or Czech fail to beat Turkey, or something weird happens in Group F, or even Northern Ireland get thrashed by Germany (not that unlikely) then Albania are through. I think they will make it, and the Czechs will fall short.
 




Tony Le Mesmer

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Jul 5, 2003
1,380
South Wales
Talksport suggesting Woy will be wringing the changes tonight.....possibly 6 players, namely resting Rooney and wingbacks.

Unbelievable to do so...when will we learn....the times we have f..ked up the last group game which has left us with a tricky knock-out opponent.

A draw is a bad result if Wales win.
 


moggy

Well-known member
Oct 15, 2003
5,061
southwick
Talksport suggesting Woy will be wringing the changes tonight.....possibly 6 players, namely resting Rooney and wingbacks.

Unbelievable to do so...when will we learn....the times we have f..ked up the last group game which has left us with a tricky knock-out opponent.

A draw is a bad result if Wales win.

Yes, heard this too, if we don't win tonight and top the group we could face a second round game against Spain or Germany.
Bad decision Roy !
 


Triggaaar

Well-known member
Oct 24, 2005
53,139
Goldstone
Albania are not likely to make it with GD -2 in which case England almost certainly will face Group D 3rd placers, likely Czech Republic
They'd have to beat Turkey first, and then they could finish above Croatia is Spain win.

Playing on foreign soil, the first decent team has beaten us every time in the history of the Euros and the WC.
Not quite true.
 




Blue Valkyrie

Not seen such Bravery!
Sep 1, 2012
32,165
Valhalla
Yes, heard this too, if we don't win tonight and top the group we could face a second round game against Spain or Germany.
Bad decision Roy !
Only if we qualify in 3rd place. Finishing 2nd gives us runner up in group F.
 




warmleyseagull

Well-known member
Apr 17, 2011
4,386
Beaminster, Dorset
Not sure about that. Group E will almost certainly not see a 3rd place qualifier. England then win 3-0 tonight, Albania are probably through. Or Czech fail to beat Turkey, or something weird happens in Group F, or even Northern Ireland get thrashed by Germany (not that unlikely) then Albania are through. I think they will make it, and the Czechs will fall short.

Yes, If the Czechs fall short, Albania will be ahead of them, and it is likely that both bottom two of Group E will go home (though wouldn't put it past Ireland to beat ageing and qualified Italy) My comment was on balance of likelihood, and still think Albania probably won't make it.
 




warmleyseagull

Well-known member
Apr 17, 2011
4,386
Beaminster, Dorset
It will get interesting if Croatia are banned today. I assume that then only two could progress from group D? Then IF we win tonight, a tie vs Albania becomes very possible. If Albania don't qualify as one of four 3rd place qualifiers from 5 groups, we would then play 3rd from group C.

Can't see that happening, would be seen as discriminatory after Russia were given suspended ban. The same is nailed on for Croatia IMO.
 




warmleyseagull

Well-known member
Apr 17, 2011
4,386
Beaminster, Dorset
Talksport suggesting Woy will be wringing the changes tonight.....possibly 6 players, namely resting Rooney and wingbacks.

Unbelievable to do so...when will we learn....the times we have f..ked up the last group game which has left us with a tricky knock-out opponent.
Actually can't think of an occasion where screwing the last game in Finals has cost us. We have a pretty good record in third games, IMO, Roy is right. If you think bigger picture, we could have seven games to play and this is a chance for players to push for places as well as rest a few dead certs to play as long as fit. Think CH and Brum away, it worked there ( even if it wasn't six players in that case).

Also it only gets 3rd for England if we lose and Wales win or there is GD issues so Russia overtake us. A draw in the other game guarantees second place. A penalty shoot out to decide 2nd and 3rd with Russia will occur if they win by the same score as we lose. Then the Ultras will let off a few flares and we'll go through 2nd anyway....
 






Wilko

LUZZING chairs about
Sep 19, 2003
9,927
BN1
Talksport suggesting Woy will be wringing the changes tonight.....possibly 6 players, namely resting Rooney and wingbacks.

Unbelievable to do so...when will we learn....the times we have f..ked up the last group game which has left us with a tricky knock-out opponent.

A draw is a bad result if Wales win.

I agree. Stop f****** about and get the game and group won taking a positive momentum into the next round.
 




knocky1

Well-known member
Jan 20, 2010
13,108
It will get interesting if Croatia are banned today. I assume that then only two could progress from group D? Then IF we win tonight, a tie vs Albania becomes very possible. If Albania don't qualify as one of four 3rd place qualifiers from 5 groups, we would then play 3rd from group C.

Liverpool usually get given a Wildcard entry in situations like this.......
 




graz126

New member
Oct 17, 2003
4,146
doncaster
after half time subs and performances of sterling & kane 2 players could be rested there and would help us finish top ;)
 




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