Player ratings - Man City (h)

[Kumquat]

I'm curious as to what benefit a fast Hemed would have been?

The way I saw the game if Tomer was quick he'd have just been even further away from all his teammates.

Youre bang on there I reckon.

 

[Kumquat]

Ryan 6 I don't blame him for either goal, he looked good and solid. Distribution was a bit off at times, the telepathy will come.
Bruno 7 A few misplaced passes but some lovely touches and was Premier League class.
Duffy 5 A couple of panicky moments but he looked strong and he's perfectly capable at this level.
Dunk 7 No question marks about Dunk.
Suttner 6 He'll be better against lesser opponents when the team is more open. Quality left back.
Pröpper 5 Well, he is a VERY casual player with clear talent but needs to plug his head in a bit.
Stephens 5 He'll improve and he'll get used to playing with Pröpper, they'll be strong together.
March 6 I don't get why he's being so highly marked, a few casual moments in defence and not the day for our attackers.
Gross 6 Not the performance as against Atleti but he showed enough to prove his class.
Brown N/A Doesn't look like someone I want to see starting regularly.
Hemed 5 He battled and he won a couple of duels but it was tough, and he's very limited. Not a Premier League player.

Subs
Murphy 5 Also not a Premier League player, lost the ball which led to the opening goal when he should have put in a cross.
Murray 5 Not in the game as much as he should have been, he's going to be crucial to us.
Knockaert 6 Not impressed with the dive.

Agree with your ratings apart from Duffy. He made mistakes but as good as Bruno and dunk for me. And I think harsh on Murphy. He did a good job overall and the fact hughton threw him on ahead of knockaert says a lot. He showed real maturity I think in tough situations on his own up front I think.

 

[Stat Brother]

Because there was plenty of space behind their defence for balls to be played into and for a faster forward to chase.

But we don't have a faster forward.
If one were left on the bench and Tomer played then fair enough.
CH had a choice of Tomer or Murray, and the end result, in that side, against that opposition would have been identical.

Don't hate on the player, hate the process.

 

[Biscuit]

Gross did alright. Not sure what these ratings are about.

Hemed hating mostly unfounded. We were playing Man City, he was never going to get involved or get many opportunities to show his worth. But he did try and bring others in and his passing was smart as was his pressing. He also did well defending set-pieces. Did exactly what I'd expect him to do tbh. If he had that game against a lesser team then I'd be more disappointed.

 

[Skaville]

Gross did alright. Not sure what these ratings are about.

Hemed hating mostly unfounded. We were playing Man City, he was never going to get involved or get many opportunities to show his worth. But he did try and bring others in and his passing was smart as was his pressing. He also did well defending set-pieces. Did exactly what I'd expect him to do tbh. If he had that game against a lesser team then I'd be more disappointed.

I'm not a Hemed hater, far from it, but when you are going to play those kind of tactics the centre forward has to hold the ball and bring others into the game. He really failed to do that today. Murray was a lot better when he came on, although ottomemdi absolutely mugged him off with a brilliant interception near the death

 

[Wellesley]

But we don't have a faster forward.
If one were left on the bench and Tomer played then fair enough.
CH had a choice of Tomer or Murray, and the end result, in that side, against that opposition would have been identical.

Don't hate on the player, hate the process.

I never mentioned hating the player. You asked what benefit a fast Hemed would have been.

 

[Stat Brother]

I'm not a Hemed hater, far from it, but when you are going to play those kind of tactics the centre forward has to hold the ball and bring others into the game. He really failed to do that today. Murray was a lot better when he came on, although ottomemdi absolutely mugged him off with a brilliant interception near the death

But the players Hemed was supposed to bring into the game were at least 40 yards away.
Solly and Murphy were so far back, Hemed would need to distract the 3 defenders with some magic tricks or something before they could be bought into the game.
Passing off to Gross who was consistently the nearest too him, just isn't going to make much difference.

 

[WhingForPresident]

Ryan 6
Bruno 7
Dunk 7
Duffy 6
Suttner 7
March 7
Propper 5
Stephens 4
Brown N/A
Gross 5
Hemed 4

 

[Skaville]

But the players Hemed was supposed to bring into the game were at least 40 yards away.
Solly and Murphy were so far back, Hemed would need to distract the 3 defenders with some magic tricks or something before they could be bought into the game.
Passing off to Gross who was consistently the nearest too him, just isn't going to make much difference.

I get your point and yes, the support was largely shite but when it was there, he should have done better IMO. Murray does that lone role so much better

 

[Stat Brother]

I get your point and yes, the support was largely shite but when it was there, he should have done better IMO. Murray does that lone role so much better

I'm struggling to see how anything would have been different had M&H reversed roles, and to be honest it's tough to see that changing without the elusive Better Baldock.

Sure it's clear today we were playing with (a generous) 10 men against 12, and that won't be the case going forward, but without pace through the middle nobody will play us on the back foot.

 

[Hampster Gull]

Tough audience on Suttner, thought he was the best of the new boys by some margin

 

[Barnham Seagull]

Ryan - 7

Bruno - 8
Duffy - 7
Dunk - 8
Suttner - 7

Propper - 5
Stephens - 5
Brown - 5
March - 7

Gross - 6

Hemed - 5

Murphy - 5
Murray - 5
Knockaert - 6

Desperately lacking an outlet to help get us up the pitch and to play the limited football we had higher up the pitch. Good disciplined defensive performance. New signings need to bed in and we need to get the new forward players in ASAP

 

[Weststander]

I'm struggling to see how anything would have been different had M&H reversed roles, and to be honest it's tough to see that changing without the elusive Better Baldock.

Sure it's clear today we were playing with (a generous) 10 men against 12, and that won't be the case going forward, but without pace through the middle nobody will play us on the back foot.

Exactly.

Pace through the middle. Without it in the PL, our only hope would be Pulis tactics of terrority and being set piece specialists with a team all great in the air.

 

[London Irish]

Ryan - 7 one great save before half time

Bruno - 8 MOTM brilliant
Duffy - 7
Dunk - 7 without the OG maybe 8
Suttner - 6 offered nothing going forward

Propper - 6 poor start but then showed good flashes
Stephens - 5 invisible
Brown - 6 workmanlike
March - 7 classy without ever really getting going

Gross - 5 no real impact

Hemed - 4 wasteful in possession, no sign he is up to it

Murphy - 7 wasted our best chance but at least he threatened
Murray - 6 better hold up play
Knockaert - 7 bright but needed much longer

Hughton 5 didn't give his team much confidence by ordering them to sit so deep. Home games should never be about damage limitation

 

[heathgate]

Ryan - 6 - fumbled 2nd goal

Bruno - 8

Duffy - 8

Dunk - 7

Suttner - 7

Propper - 6

Stephens - 4

Brown - 5

March - 8

Gross - 5

Hemed - 5

Murphy - 5

Murray - 5

Knockaert - 6

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[amexer]

Its certainly not hate just an opinion that Hemed was very poor. Impossible for him to pass to anyone because he lost the ball everytime he received it. Also one chance he had to get away caught by defender despite having head start

 

[London Irish]

Its certainly not hate just an opinion that Hemed was very poor. Impossible for him to pass to anyone because he lost the ball everytime he received it. Also one chance he had to get away caught by defender despite having head start

Genuinely baffled what Hughton sees in him - this year's Skalak just painful to watch the lack of pace and presence

 

[Seagull1989]

Ryan -7- safe hands from.couple of free kicks
Bruno -8- MOTM - had Danillo covered all day
Dunk -8- good defensive performance , a long day for him
Duffy - 8- see dunk
Suttner -5 - don't think he crossed the half way line
Stephens -6- marshalled Silva and De Bruyne well
Propper -4 couldn't pass at all
March -7- good play but unfortunately best touches in our half
Brown-5 - didn't do too much while on pitch
Gross -4- always offside
Hemed -3 - couldn't hold it up

Murphy -5- don't think is PL quality
Murray -6- made himself known at least to city CBs
AK-6- get him back and starting and will cause teams problems

 

[Petee]

Ryan 6 - Great save from Jesus but should be doing better with the 2nd

Bruno 7.5 - Played a lot better than he did vs Atletico and silenced his doubters.
Duffy 8 MOTM - Absolutely immense, unfortunate backpass but luckily Aguero missed
Dunk 8 - Very good game, what a solid CB partnership we have
Suttner 7 - Promising. Looking forward to how he gets on as the season progresses.

Brown 5.5 - From the amount he played, he didn't look good enough.
Stephens 5 - Had a couple of bad games up against good opposition in the past week. Error lead to 1st goal.
Propper 6 - Gave the ball straight back to City several times.
March 8 - What a player Solly can end up being this season. That skill in the NW corner taking on 3 City players, sublime.

Gross 6.5 - Good set piece delivery, has a bit of the Elvis with the offside rule.
Hemed 6.5 - A lot of stick on here but I think he did alright considering our tactics as a whole

Murphy 7 - Played very well and could play a big part this season.
Murray 6
Knockaert 6

 

[est.83]

Usually those ratings make sense but from TV I saw many things differently:

Ryan - 7. Couple of good saves, decent distribution, maybe ciuld have done a little bettee with Dunk's header.

Bruno - 6. Alright but didn't offer much going forward.

Dunk - 6. Should be higher if not that own goal.

Duffy - 5. His mistake (back pass) was even poorer than Stephens's. Seemed more nervous than Dunk.

Suttner - 7. All and all I thought he was best player from our back four. Had I wonderful volley towards Pröpper (just headed to corner by ManC defender).

March - 7. Class but even he was isolated going forward.

Stephens - 5. Will have better days.

Pröpper - 5. Wasn't good but I don't think he was as bad as some describe. Will improve a lot.

Murphy - 6. He might not be Manchester City class but I can see him outclassing lesser defences.

Groß - 6. His set pieces were great, otherwise was a bit anonymous.

Hemed - 5. Worked and ran well enough but just didn't have service. I think that even Lewandowski or Zlatan etc wouldn't have been able do offer much more with that kind of service againts that ManC team. Yes, Hemed wasn't great but I cannot understand the bashing here.

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