PLAYER RATINGS BHA v Colchester

[samtheseagull]

complete badger cant read a game of football. hes one of those fans who sees a player misplace a pass, and whatever they do for the rest of the game he would of still played shit.

 

[samtheseagull]

No, unlike the chap above I have a brain and can see that no two moments make a performance, unless they're goals scored or goal-costing mistakes I suppose. I don't think I even remember the minute you're talking about, so I'm clearly not basing my opinion on it. It's a pretty sad day when the opinion 'Gary Dicker was below average' warrants criticism.

Personally, I think Dicker is on a par with Sparrow and better than Bridcutt.

so why am i thick?

 

[Kalimantan Gull]

... turning out to be a rare entity, i.e. a subject on which I am proved wrong.

You pulling my tail?

 

[Falmer]

No, unlike the chap above I have a brain and can see that no two moments make a performance, unless they're goals scored or goal-costing mistakes I suppose. I don't think I even remember the minute you're talking about, so I'm clearly not basing my opinion on it. It's a pretty sad day when the opinion 'Gary Dicker was below average' warrants criticism.

Personally, I think Dicker is on a par with Sparrow and better than Bridcutt.

So your claiming his passing was poor? can you actually name me a moment when he did display a poor pass then?
you also claim to have a sufficent brain but yet you can't remember moments in the match which others clearly can!

 

[Jimmy Grimble]

When have I written either of those two off this season? El Abd I wrote off years ago! And Poyet I never wrote off, unless winding up nsc counts over real opinions.

Plus, with El Abd, I think I can safely say about 98% of Albion fans consigned him to the rubbish bin in approximately in 2007. It's hardly just me changing their mind on that one.

Perhaps I should have pointed out I didn't mean just this season. But last season I'm pretty certain you were calling for us to get rid of El-Abd. I guess it's easy to say your Poyet remarks were a wind-up now. Pointless arguing whether they were or not so I'll leave it.

 

[Falmer]

I don't remember every pass played in a football match. If you do then your talents are wasted here. I remember Dicker giving it away on several occasions, something that stood out as he's usually one of our more reliable players for keeping possession. What I don't remember it this mad minute where he supposedly misplaced two passes so badly in quick succession. I recall one squirting out in front of the north stand, but not anything immediately either side of it. I can't quite believe you're actually asking me to name times in an entire 90 minutes when we lost possession! For your next trick, would you like me to talk you through all of tonight's throw ins?!

A very defensive answer for someone who is attacking a good players poor performance. You know yourself your just being negative for that extra bit of attention otherwise you wouldn't need to be so petty in your responses.

 

[Jimmy Grimble]

Oh I'm sure I was. But don't you think everybody else was too? It's easy to be smug about it now, and fair play to you if you were someone who's always rated El Abd (I don't know if you are or not), but criticism of Adam El Abd was the rule and not the exception not too long ago.

Nope, I think people questioned him, but not everybody knee-jerked and wanted him released. I haven't always rated him, and I have criticised him too, but I've never thought he was so bad as to be fiercely lambasted or completely ridden of.

 

[Falmer]

No, I'm saying you're asking me to recall incidents so trivial they are almost impossible to remember. If we picked a player everybody agrees was good tonight, would you be able to remember every one of their impressive moments? Fact is as I was sitting there tonight I noticed on numerous occasions Dicker do things such as give the ball away that he normally does not. My failure to prepare a list of them all for you is not "petty" or "defensive".

Your eating your own words. How the f*** can you not remember one bloody bad pass from a player you rated as 4 because of his passing!. We're top of the league because we dont give the ball away. We're the best passing team in the league which means it rare to see the Albion give the ball away cheaply and your saying you can't remeber one bad pass because you can't remember them all!!!!!
You are a tool of the highest I'm afraid!

 

[Zesh Rehman]

Murray 8 - great stuff from sexy Glenn, as it has been for about two months now.

Too bloody right, what a hunk

 

[Sergei Gotsmanov]

Just a couple of points on players.....

Wood= Honestly i hate being negative about any Brighton player, but the guy needs to be so much stronger he is. Any ball towards his head or chest just seems to be easily won by the defender. He was unlucky with his diving header that hit the post and his link up play when the ball is played to his feet is good, BUT i really do expect so much more from a strapping lad like that in the 50/50's.

Were you at the game If so I dont see how you can get your appraisal so massively wrong. Wood's hold up play was brilliant tonight. He used his body really well and he and Murray have worked a good partnership where Murray wins the headers for Wood to receive and hold. Was very effective. Had Wood down as a front runner for MOTM with El Abd until he was taken off. If you hate being negative at least try to be justified in doing so.

 

[Guy Fawkes]

No, on a full ten point scale it is just lower then the average. What's the point of using a full ten point scale if everyone is automatically 7+ after a win.

It's not always an automatic 7+ (if a player gets sent off for example, they often score below 7 even if the team win) however usually if a team wins, the side has to play well or worked hard and the players have had to perform to achieve a favourable result, some will stand out more than others however all will have contributed in some way towards the result, to get a positive result in a match, you would expect a player to have achieved a positive performance on a scale of 1 to 10 so be above 5.

Whats the basis to say what the average performance looks like? is it based on stats like % of passes completed for midfielders?, or number of shots on goal compared to off goal for strikers? or shots they blocked for defenders?

Is it based upon what is expected of an average player in that league or against what is expected of the player in question or maybe based on a performance in a particular game where they may have been outstanding and by failing to reproduce it again, they are automatically considered poor even if that is to a level that is their true average?

Is the whole performance watched and graded, such as what they do off the ball or what runs they make even if never used (which may have created space for other players but goes unnoticed) etc?

Dicker for example, a few people have commented on a few misplaced passes in the game, but out of how many? it may have been at a higher completion rate but those few misplaced passes may stick in someones mind, especially when coming to rating a game

However some ratings may be based upon personal likes / dislikes of players that influence their marks

So whats an average performance

 

[The Large One]

So that's that thread bollocksed then.

 

[kingcole]

Some player ratings I don't entirely agree with.

Murray had a bust game, but his inability to remain onside is not good. I think every time he got himself into a position where he looked like scoring (or even did) he was off side. OK, some decidions were marginal, or eveb wrong, but this is not usual for Murray. Been same for 2 games now.

Wood is imense. His ability to win every ball with his chest, holding up, turning (if not his finishing) is just what we need.

Ankergren had a good game and a bust opening 20 mins - His distribution was superb too.

El Ab - as every - sensational.

 

[SULLY COULDNT SHOOT]

Some player ratings I don't entirely agree with.

Murray had a bust game, but his inability to remain onside is not good. I think every time he got himself into a position where he looked like scoring (or even did) he was off side. OK, some decidions were marginal, or eveb wrong, but this is not usual for Murray. Been same for 2 games now.

Wood is imense. His ability to win every ball with his chest, holding up, turning (if not his finishing) is just what we need.

Ankergren had a good game and a bust opening 20 mins - His distribution was superb too.

El Ab - as every - sensational.

Assuming its not a spelling mistake... what does 'bust' mean?

 

[hola gus]

Were you at the game If so I dont see how you can get your appraisal so massively wrong. Wood's hold up play was brilliant tonight. He used his body really well and he and Murray have worked a good partnership where Murray wins the headers for Wood to receive and hold. Was very effective. Had Wood down as a front runner for MOTM with El Abd until he was taken off. If you hate being negative at least try to be justified in doing so.

Er yes, was you?
Sponsors gave Murray MOM, and seems almost everyone on here would choose between Murray and El Abd for MOM so your own your own with Wood. Look im not saying Wood doesnt hold up the ball when its fed into his feet, in fact he is very good at it. Im more concerned that when the occasional high ball is played he NEVER seems to even challenge the defender let alone win the header. Compare that to Murray who wins most it doent quite add up when you look at thier physiques. Just needs to do more in my very humble opinion.