Plan 'B'

[dougdeep]

Surely the only option if Falmer falls through, is to stay where we are and get as many seats as possible added. How long the club could keep going though is another question.

 

[The Large One]

How many more times? There is a Plan B which the club has many times gone on record describing the details.

It works like this -

If, as a result of the upcoming public inquiry, the inspector recommends that another one (or more) of the seven other sites are suitable, and Prescott agrees, the club would put in plans to build a stadium on THAT site. Seeing as there would have been a public inquiry already, there would not be a need for another one, assuming the planning authority (Brighton & Hove City Council) grants planning permission.

There are many hurdles that all of the other sites have to jump in terms of location, transport, environmental, financial and practical considerations - hurdles which Falmer, in Prescott's mind, has already jumped.

If the inspector says that none of the other sites are considered suitable - Falmer, the site the club believes is MOST suitable, gets the green light.

 

[dougdeep]

The land at Falmer is being given to us. If the inquiry decided we should move to another site, it doesn't automatically follow that we could afford to.

 

[Chicken Run]

How many more times? There is a Plan B which the club has many times gone on record describing the details.


There are many hurdles that all of the other sites have to jump in terms of location, transport, environmental, financial and practical considerations - hurdles which Falmer, in Prescott's mind, has already jumped.

If the inspector says that none of the other sites are considered suitable - Falmer, the site the club believes is MOST suitable, gets the green light.

So is this the plan B that Ian was talking about and if so why did'nt he say that on the radio?

 

[BensGrandad]

I take your point LARGE ONE but I think that people were referring to whether or not BHA had formulated a plan B and not considered the possibility that any other site deemed appropriate by JP would become plan B and a mere formality to obtain planning permission etc.

Could you answer my question How would a February election affect (a) The inquiry (b) the timing of the decision (c) the possible outcome.

 

[Yorkie]

As far as I am aware the Planning Inspectorate are civil servants and carry on working regardless of what is happening to the Government or Parliament.

 

[Chicken Run]

As far as I am aware the Planning Inspectorate are civil servants and carry on working regardless of what is happening to the Government or Parliament.

However, they are employed by the...........Gov.

 

[BensGrandad]

would a decision be put on hold because nobody knows whether JP would be in the position to sign the papers confirming the decision.

Could a new person in JPs position start all over again and demand a further inquiry because HE wasnt satisfied.

 

[Chicken Run]

would a decision be put on hold because nobody knows whether JP would be in the position to sign the papers confirming the decision.

Could a new person in JPs position start all over again and demand a further inquiry because HE wasnt satisfied.

I'm not sure but the village idiot's would ask the question!

 

[The Large One]

I take your point LARGE ONE but I think that people were referring to whether or not BHA had formulated a plan B and not considered the possibility that any other site deemed appropriate by JP would become plan B and a mere formality to obtain planning permission etc.

Could you answer my question How would a February election affect (a) The inquiry (b) the timing of the decision (c) the possible outcome.

I would have thought it would be more prudent to spend the time and effort wisely by kicking any possibility of a plan B into touch. Why spend our already stretched resources on a scenario which may not (or, more likely, probably won't) actually happen? But if a plan B does have to happen, the Albion will not know which site it is to be. There is no point spending money on seven possible planning applications.

However, if it does come to this, provided the Albion put a planning application in which adheres to the points outlined at the public inquiry, it would be difficult for the planning authority to refuse permission.

your questions...
(a) it won't - they'll crack on regardless
(b) as long as it is outside the 'four weeks before the election' - no effect.
(c) isn't that the same a 'b'?

 

[Kev the Ape]

we must have a plan b. But we will get falmer just keep the faith.

 

[Icy Gull]

How many more times? There is a Plan B which the club has many times gone on record describing the details.

It works like this -

If, as a result of the upcoming public inquiry, the inspector recommends that another one (or more) of the seven other sites are suitable, and Prescott agrees, the club would put in plans to build a stadium on THAT site. Seeing as there would have been a public inquiry already, there would not be a need for another one, assuming the planning authority (Brighton & Hove City Council) grants planning permission.

There are many hurdles that all of the other sites have to jump in terms of location, transport, environmental, financial and practical considerations - hurdles which Falmer, in Prescott's mind, has already jumped.

If the inspector says that none of the other sites are considered suitable - Falmer, the site the club believes is MOST suitable, gets the green light.

Said like a Brighton fan which I don't think Prescott is. Are you dismissing a scenario where NONE of the sites are considered suitable, because I am starting to believe it may come to that. As one hurdle is jumped, another one is erected and a football stadium in Brighton is only essential in the eyes of football fans.

Plan B might well be the redevelopment of Withdean and a perennial third division club.

Christ I hope I'm wrong.

 

[The Large One]

Said like a Brighton fan which I don't think Prescott is. Are you dismissing a scenario where NONE of the sites are considered suitable, because I am starting to believe it may come to that. As one hurdle is jumped, another one is erected and a football stadium in Brighton is only essential in the eyes of football fans.

Plan B might well be the redevelopment of Withdean and a perennial third division club.

Christ I hope I'm wrong.

Falmer has been considered suitable. Prescott has already said he is satisfied with the Albion's plans for the site, and he has acknowledged (we made sure of that) that the city needs a stadium.

Plan B COULD be the redevelopment of Withdean, but there are FAR too many factors against that particular judgement.

There will not be a scenario where we will not be allocated a site.

 

[BensGrandad]

I would have thought it would be more prudent to spend the time and effort wisely by kicking any possibility of a plan B into touch. Why spend our already stretched resources on a scenario which may not (or, more likely, probably won't) actually happen? But if a plan B does have to happen, the Albion will not know which site it is to be. There is no point spending money on seven possible planning applications.

However, if it does come to this, provided the Albion put a planning application in which adheres to the points outlined at the public inquiry, it would be difficult for the planning authority to refuse permission.

your questions...
(a) it won't - they'll crack on regardless
(b) as long as it is outside the 'four weeks before the election' - no effect.
(c) isn't that the same a 'b'?

Sorry didnt make myself really clear

(a) The enquiry would still go ahead as planned
(b) The decision would still be made provided that it wasn't within 4 weeks of an election.
(c) If the decision made by JP was Yes could an incoming person if they took over JPs job say in the unlikely event of JP losing his seat or not getting the same job in the next government have a different view and say NO

 

[The Large One]

Sorry didnt make myself really clear

(a) The enquiry would still go ahead as planned
(b) The decision would still be made provided that it wasn't within 4 weeks of an election.
(c) If the decision made by JP was Yes could an incoming person if they took over JPs job say in the unlikely event of JP losing his seat or not getting the same job in the next government have a different view and say NO

c) a decision cannot be unilaterally be over-turned. It must go through due process. In this instance, this could only be through a Judicial Review.

 

[Dave the OAP]

would a decision be put on hold because nobody knows whether JP would be in the position to sign the papers confirming the decision.

Could a new person in JPs position start all over again and demand a further inquiry because HE wasnt satisfied.

BG HOW THE f***ing HELL IS ANYONE SUPPOSED TO KNOW THE ANSWER TO THIS QUESTION?


You really are a shit stirrer aren't you?

 

[fatboy]

Why would there be a plan B?

If one of the seven sites is suitable we will build there. If not, we will build at Falmer.

 

[The Large One]

Why would there be a plan B?

If one of the seven sites is suitable we will build there. If not, we will build at Falmer.

The abridged version of what I said. Typical of me - why use 26 words when 300 will suffice?

 

[BensGrandad]

BG HOW THE f***ing HELL IS ANYONE SUPPOSED TO KNOW THE ANSWER TO THIS QUESTION?


You really are a shit stirrer aren't you?

Do you know the answer ......... as you said you dont but there may be a person out there whop can catergorically say YES in that eventuality the whole process of JP examing the inquiries answers would start all over again with that person reviewing the evidence to form his decision. On the other hand the answer may be NO a new incumbent would accept the papers as presented and just sign them. I do not know the proceedures do you?

 

[Dave the OAP]

well obviously not or I would have put it on here wouldn't I.

Next time I see my mate Ivor I will ask him.