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[Misc] Piers Morgan v Matt Hancock



One Teddy Maybank

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Time in office is a little bit irrelevant......the pandemic is 'new'. Loads of mistakes were bound to have been made in all this - everyone is learning as they go along. Not sure what Stanley Johnson's behaviour has to do with the Government. The EU is in total turmoil in terms of dealing with the pandemic. You can easily interpret the stats to make us look better or worse than other countries in Europe...........

Morgan acts like a teenager on Facebook.....will do or say anything to get 'likes'.

This.


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Thunder Bolt

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This. They are hired by companies, individuals or other organisations to produce a specific result, not a true one. Over here a few years back they reported "more than half of the Swedens want begging to be illegal". Everyone was pretty baffled. Then it turned out that our nationalist, neo-fascist party had ordered the poll and I've not seen a YouGov poll here since.

It was also owned by a Tory.
 






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Johnson is only popular because he got the virus and he has been away from the lecturn.
The clueless clowns that have been wheeled out have been puppets rather than leaders.
The ministers that have faced Morgan this week have been tied up in knots.
Hopefully Johnson will be back soon to face the music and answer why they have got it so wrong and made decisions far too late and only when it has been pointed out to them.
Miss Hancocks targets on testing and PPE and it will get interesting, I expect Johnson to scarper back into the fridge.
Johnsons get out of jail card is the thickos watching Trump perform and thinking it could be so much worse.
Politics mattered up until the outbreak because of austerity, we then needed leaders making the right decisions at the right time with the notice we had from abroad and we muffed it.
stop moaning and stay indoors :wink:
regards
DF
 




Titanic

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Matt Hancock, the Secretary of State for Health and Social Care, is currently busy being scrutinised and questioned by the House of Commons UK Health Committee... I don't know, but I could guess that Morgan, a TV 'celebrity' is probably busy ******* himself into a frenzy on his Twitter account.
 




The Antikythera Mechanism

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I thought that [MENTION=1416]Ernest[/MENTION] would’ve been all over this thread but he hasn’t posted since 24 March and his profile says that he is now [MENTION=38]Beach Hut[/MENTION]. Very odd, but hope he’s ok.
 




Beach Hut

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I thought that [MENTION=1416]Ernest[/MENTION] would’ve been all over this thread but he hasn’t posted since 24 March and his profile says that he is now [MENTION=38]Beach Hut[/MENTION]. Very odd, but hope he’s ok.

Don't worry the sage of NSC is fine, he will be back
 




Winker

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I haven't read the entire thread but I don't see that the Government is totally to blame over lack of PPE here. If the NHS has over 1 million employees then you would have thought that at least one would be responsible for predicting future clinical needs? i.e 'there is a global pandemic heading this way, is there anything we should do?' . I would suggest there has been a massive fail in the NHS procurement department. Is that the fault of Boris?
 




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Morgan is the lowest form of human filth, He cost the lives of British service personnel, I will never forgive him.


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I asked you before...what did he do?
 




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It is easy to criticize, whoever is in charge. The fact is that this damn virus has cought the whole world on the hop. Whoever we had in power they could be made to look bad ,if you want to.

Aggressive journalists can have a field day. It is an age old question, do politicians prepare and stock up for the very worst that might happen? Or do they plan for reasonable expectations? Either way, we have to pay for it.
 


Herr Tubthumper

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As editor of the mirror he printed fake pictures of British soldiers pissing on an Iraqi prisoner. This was around the time of the Abu Graib scandal so a very sensitive subject at the time.

I see. I was aware of the fake photos, and the phone-hacking for that matter, but wouldn’t have necessarily linked this to [MENTION=35289]Baker lite[/MENTION]’s claim.
 






mikeyjh

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I haven't read the entire thread but I don't see that the Government is totally to blame over lack of PPE here. If the NHS has over 1 million employees then you would have thought that at least one would be responsible for predicting future clinical needs? i.e 'there is a global pandemic heading this way, is there anything we should do?' . I would suggest there has been a massive fail in the NHS procurement department. Is that the fault of Boris?

It's the tories that have stripped the NHS down to its bare bones, it's the tories that are fanatical about the NHS being ultra efficient. There's a problem with that sort of efficiency, it doesn't allow for any unusual event, it does not have any spare capacity. No scope to respond when this sort of thing that happens. 10 years of a Tory government now headed by Johnson so yes it is his responsibility.
 


DavidinSouthampton

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It is easy to criticize, whoever is in charge. The fact is that this damn virus has cought the whole world on the hop. Whoever we had in power they could be made to look bad ,if you want to.

Aggressive journalists can have a field day. It is an age old question, do politicians prepare and stock up for the very worst that might happen? Or do they plan for reasonable expectations? Either way, we have to pay for it.

You are right. My main beef would be about honesty and openness - not making promises that there are no reasonable expectations of being able to deliver, or worse, that there is no intention to deliver. But it is very difficult to work out what is going on sometimes.

There was a video going round recently of someone claiming to be a key worker (I don't know what he did) being refused a test because they are expensive and he was not symptomatic...... and there was no one else at the Centre.

Despite the reassurances about ppe, this weekend it seems to be running out. I know personally a GP in Southampton who was told last night provision of ppe would be limited and rationed over this weekend.
 


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