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[Misc] Piers Morgan v Matt Hancock



Wrong-Direction

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PILTDOWN MAN

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Do you think the UK population are generally thicker than other countries ? This is a summary of what other countries have announced to their public (albeit the first 3 have started).

Italy
Bookshops, laundries, stationers, children’s clothes stores reopened in some regions; forestry workers and IT manufacturers back at work. Full lockdown set to end 4 May

Spain
Some factory and construction workers back on job but most shops and services remain closed and office staff still working from home. Lockdown set to end 27 April but likely to be extended

Austria
Public parks, small shops, DIY and gardening supply stores reopened with strict distancing rules and masks. If virus under control, all stores to reopen on 2 May, restaurants in mid-May

Denmark
Daycare centres and primary schools to reopen 15 April, Restaurants, cafes closed and gatherings of more than 10 people banned until 10 May, larger gatherings until August

France
Lockdown extended until 11 May, after which creches and schools to reopen progressively. Bars, restaurants, cinemas to stay closed; large public gatherings banned until at least mid-July

Switzerland
Authorities to announce on 16 April first easing of measures by the end of month

Finland
Ban on all but essential travel in and out of the Helsinki region lifted, but all other restrictions to remain in place until further notice

Czech Republic
A five-stage plan to start on 20 April with open-air markets and workshops and end on 8 June. Czechs may now also travel abroad providing they undergo two-week quarantine on returning

Norway
Kindergartens to reopen and some health specialists to return to work from 20 April. Partial reopening of high schools and universities, hair, massage and beauty salons from 27 April

And I believe that Starmer has made it very clear he is not asking for dates or a timetable, just the simple plan, but you think the British public are 'too thick' to be told ???

(It was very good of you to include an example of 'what thick people do' in case anyone was too thick to understand what 'thick' meant :lolol:)

Most countries announce a lifting of restrictions as they lift them or just before.

The obvious reason for this is to stop people reacting before time. I'm sure that an exit strategy is being put into place but as any government in this country has been shown, tell too many "officials" too soon and they are telling the hacks before the ink is dry on the document.
 


Jimmy Grimble

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51% in today's poll support Boris. https://www.ipsos.com/ipsos-mori/en-uk/boris-bounce-brits-rally-round-him

52% supporting the Conservatives in a poll last week ... https://docs.cdn.yougov.com/sgj7p6jhwf/TheTimes_VI_200402_W.pdf

You'd never know it from this board though.

They walked the election, that's all you need to know :wink: things don't just change over night despite what's going on at the moment , Boris back soon to lead from from the front again
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DF
 




A mex eyecan

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They've been in power for 10 years.

ah yes, so I suppose they should have had 10 years foresight that a pandemic was coming, what it was like and when it would happen.

I guess that they should have been stockpiling face masks, gloves and sanitisers, just to be ready like.
 




clapham_gull

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Aug 20, 2003
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ah yes, so I suppose they should have had 10 years foresight that a pandemic was coming, what it was like and when it would happen.

I guess that they should have been stockpiling face masks, gloves and sanitisers, just to be ready like.

Scientists have been warning for years that this country (and others) weren't prepared for a pandemic.

A few years ago is was being treated by us on par with terrorism, but overtime the authorities have taken their eye off the ball.

To suggest they weren't aware of the risk is bollocks.

The plans this country has had (for years) are based on a mass influenza outbreak.





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amexer

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Aug 8, 2011
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This thread reminds me of the Argus. In last 2 years myself have used NHS hospital both serious. Both times wrote to Argus saying what fantastic service we had received. Neither of letters published in both weeks letters moaning about NHS were published. This sums up our media. Even read in a German paper yesterday an article praising UKs investment and work on anti virus which they said was greater then in Germany
 


midnight_rendezvous

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They walked the election, that's all you need to know :wink: things don't just change over night despite what's going on at the moment , Boris back soon to lead from from the front again
Regards
DF

Leading from the front? You mean blustering and bumbling his way through it and giving out ambiguous advice? Joy.
 


midnight_rendezvous

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ah yes, so I suppose they should have had 10 years foresight that a pandemic was coming, what it was like and when it would happen.

I guess that they should have been stockpiling face masks, gloves and sanitisers, just to be ready like.

That sort of foresight would have been ok but I’d have settled for not having a decade of historically low spending growth, chronic staff shortages, a drastic shortage of beds, ongoing care facilities and resources. That would have been pretty decent. But alas, hindsight eh?
 




junior

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1) As has already been said, they've been in power for a DECADE.
2) If you get the chance to just watch Hancock bumble his way incompetently through Morgan's proper questioning, you will see what I mean. In January he told the commons we were "very well prepared". We weren't. And let's not go though the huge number of mistakes we've seen since, from dithering over when to lock down, the hypocrisy of front bench leaders failing to lead by example - Johnson shaking hands with patients, Gove having his daughter tested (which is absolutely outrageous!), Stanley Johnson travelling to and from his second home, the EU ventilator shambles and the fact they've since asked pro-Brexit and Tory donors JCB and Dyson to manufacture them since. And now we are heading towards the worst figures in Europe.
3) Your Labour whataboutery is utterly irrelevant. They are not in power. Even if they were, it's doubtful they'd be the shambles we are seeing from this CRAP government.


Oh and [MENTION=35289]Baker lite[/MENTION], I am not pretending to like Morgan - he is holding this government to account for his own reasons. But he is at least doing it properly, which is more than can be said for the BBC, both Labour leaders and our "free" press.

What a load of political codswallop.

Basically them what support Conservatives think they are doing well and those that support Labour think they are a shambles. How predictable.

I don't follow politics, don't vote and don't favour any particular party. This is a global pandemic, started in another country and and it must be a living nightmare to try and manage. Yes a few of the suits might fumble on TV a bit, and I'm sure a few mistakes have been made alomg the way, but i think they are probably all doing their absolute hardest to try and sort this out.

Leave the politics out of it yeah?
 


Leekbrookgull

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That sort of foresight would have been ok but I’d have settled for not having a decade of historically low spending growth, chronic staff shortages, a drastic shortage of beds, ongoing care facilities and resources. That would have been pretty decent. But alas, hindsight eh?

Your post and the link have much in common in a way,however The West let alone the World never took Sars/Bird and Swine flu seriously,get a virus that is a little bit more toxic and break-out this is the end result.
 


Simster

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Jul 7, 2003
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Surrey
What a load of political codswallop.

Basically them what support Conservatives think they are doing well and those that support Labour think they are a shambles. How predictable.

I don't follow politics, don't vote and don't favour any particular party. This is a global pandemic, started in another country and and it must be a living nightmare to try and manage. Yes a few of the suits might fumble on TV a bit, and I'm sure a few mistakes have been made alomg the way, but i think they are probably all doing their absolute hardest to try and sort this out.

Leave the politics out of it yeah?
Er, no. Because the politics are quite important. Sorry you don't like it, but it doesn't mean you're any more right than anyone else.
 






A1X

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Sep 1, 2017
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ah yes, so I suppose they should have had 10 years foresight that a pandemic was coming, what it was like and when it would happen.

I guess that they should have been stockpiling face masks, gloves and sanitisers, just to be ready like.

I would expect a responsible Government to plan for all potential eventualities, of which a global flu pandemic is far from a particularly far-fetched one.
 




rogersix

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Jan 18, 2014
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What a load of political codswallop.

Basically them what support Conservatives think they are doing well and those that support Labour think they are a shambles. How predictable.

I don't follow politics, don't vote and don't favour any particular party. This is a global pandemic, started in another country and and it must be a living nightmare to try and manage. Yes a few of the suits might fumble on TV a bit, and I'm sure a few mistakes have been made alomg the way, but i think they are probably all doing their absolute hardest to try and sort this out.

Leave the politics out of it yeah?

this event is what politics is
 




Surrey Phil

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Aug 3, 2010
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Utterly extraordinary thread. 1000’s of people dying from this horrendous virus on a daily basis but the most important thing is to have a spat about Torries or Labour.

Some on here have no grip on reality.
 


Raleigh Chopper

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Sep 1, 2011
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Plymouth
Johnson is only popular because he got the virus and he has been away from the lecturn.
The clueless clowns that have been wheeled out have been puppets rather than leaders.
The ministers that have faced Morgan this week have been tied up in knots.
Hopefully Johnson will be back soon to face the music and answer why they have got it so wrong and made decisions far too late and only when it has been pointed out to them.
Miss Hancocks targets on testing and PPE and it will get interesting, I expect Johnson to scarper back into the fridge.
Johnsons get out of jail card is the thickos watching Trump perform and thinking it could be so much worse.
Politics mattered up until the outbreak because of austerity, we then needed leaders making the right decisions at the right time with the notice we had from abroad and we muffed it.
 


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