Couldn't see another thread on this but MOTD2 all believed it was a handball.
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[Albion] Penalty?
- Thread starter PILTDOWN MAN
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Baldseagull
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I think not, but I also think the one they gave against Dunk was not either, who the f*** knows what the handball rule really is anymore?
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HellBilly
- Oct 17, 2008
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Interestingly the short Sky Sports highlights on YouTube focused on it.
It would’ve been very harsh. Never a penalty in my view.
Unlike the delivery.
Uh_huh_him
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- Sep 28, 2011
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In the replay on MotD2 you can see that his arm is away from his body and moves towards the ball.
Under the current rules, it was clearly a penalty.
The fact it "would have been harsh" is ignoring the fact that the current interpretation of the laws is extremely harsh.
Under the current rules, it was clearly a penalty.
The fact it "would have been harsh" is ignoring the fact that the current interpretation of the laws is extremely harsh.
Uh_huh_him
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- Sep 28, 2011
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Indeed.
MotD2 didn't fall back on the "I've seen 'em given" cop out.
They all agreed we had been hard done by.
- Oct 17, 2008
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When you watch the clip a few times at 0.25 speed (as I did to get the screenshot) he doesn’t move his arm towards the ball, he just jumps to block the cross. It was never a penalty.
The problem is Dunk’s one against us was very soft and never should’ve been given either, so fans, pundits and - crucially - referees have no idea what the actual law is any more anyway.
Uh_huh_him
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- Sep 28, 2011
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OK but he jumps with his arm out.
It wasn't given because he had "his arm tucked in" which is frankly, bolleaux.
macbeth
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there was but those are only given if the player being grabbed has a reasonable chance of playing the ball.
which webster didn’t, as of course the delivery was abysmal
LamieRobertson
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Ain’t that just so….eeez complicated
- Oct 17, 2008
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Been a while since I’ve seen this gem. The beauty is you can answer practically any question with it.
Penalty every day. Not even a glancing blow, like some that have been given for merely brushing the arm as it went past. This was a hard elbow which cleared the ball away from a danger area direct to one of his fellow defenders - a really good pass, in fact!
Uh_huh_him
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- Sep 28, 2011
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Good point!
Similar to the one not given against Brentford last season, the handball actively interferes with the game, by preventing a targeted cross.
Sorry that it wasn't deliberate etc etc, but blocking a cross with your hand - is handball, and always should be.
This is the correct answer.
People might see it as unbelievably harsh, but it ticks all the very clear criteria for a handball under the current laws.
brighton_tom
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- Jul 23, 2008
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Maybe harsh but you’ve seen them given and fits a lot, if not all, of the criteria for a handball penalty. Arm up, away from body, blocks the ball.
5Ways Gull
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Think 1 in 5 refs would have given it! According to RdZ.
METALMICKY
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- Jan 30, 2004
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This too!