Don Quixote
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- Nov 4, 2008
- 8,362
He said 'We saved the banks.'
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Paxman On Fire
- Thread starter Pavilionaire
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He said 'We saved the banks.'
Seagull58
In the Algarve
Agreed MAX.
That is hardly representative of the population though is it? Considering 3p a litre represents about a 2% price rise, you must be getting through an awful lot of petrol to save £100 a year!
25,000 miles @ 7.5 miles per litre *3p = 100 quid
Seagull58
In the Algarve
He said "I saved the world" but claimed that he meant to say "we saved the banks".
10 Dec 2008 – Gordon Brown has attempted to play down a slip of the tongue in which he said the government had "saved the world".
Ernest
Stupid IDIOT
Good old Ed Milliband 'What went wrong ?'
Tubby Mondays
Well-known member
You seem to be labouring under the misapprehension that as I have pointed out the critical failings of the leaders of this government (i.e that they are clueless out of touch fuckwits) that I am in someway supporting the failed Prime Ministership of Gordon Brown. I dont know which posts have given you this impression but you are wrong.
If you want to get into a quotes game who can forget 'We are all in this together', proclaimed before giving tax cuts to the highest earners whilst living standards for the rest of the country declined as a direct result of of the micky mouse policies conjured up by this government.
Seagull58
In the Algarve
My original post regarding plan B was in reply to The Large One, not you. You then decided to interpret my post as a response to your's. So **** off.
The Merry Prankster
Pactum serva
There is no recovery anywhere and whilst Europe fucks about there won't be. Even Mervyn said we are not yet even in the middle of this. Don't get carried away by the idea that any British politician, of whichever hue, can do a thing about it.
Tubby Mondays
Well-known member
Aside from the grown up structure of your argument, you will note that you actually quoted my post in relation to plan B.
- Jan 18, 2009
- 4,885
Indeed.
In 10 years time when all the key financial decisions that affect this country are made by unelected technochrats in Brussels, no doubt we will look back on Paxman and these kind of interviews fondly. Let's all enjoy them while they last.
Hooray! £100 quid less tax for those that drive over 25,000 miles a year!
It's the constant u-terms and general indecision which causes a lack of confidence. It's one shambles after another at the moment which cannot be get for anything let alone a recovery.
Seagull58
In the Algarve
So, are you against it?
Seagull58
In the Algarve
and The Large One's
Seagull58
In the Algarve
What is your recommended Plan B? Another (Ed) Ballsup of epic proportions or some sound economic planning?
Nibble
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- Jan 3, 2007
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Whether the tax redution is a good thing or not is not the issue, it's the flummery and U-turns that are showing them up for what they are. Also, saying you are going to increase duty then saying yu won't is not saving you money anymore than someone saying they are going to kick your head and then deciding against it is saving you from a kicking.
Yes. I think if you are supposedly sticking the 'the plan' as the poor junior minister kept repeating last night then u-turning on a fuel duty rise to the cost of £550 million of 'departmental savings' (though the poor junior minister didn't know which departments) is a complete f***ing nonsense and makes this government look like they are now trying to make themselves look popular when really they are making themselves look like knee jerk reactionaries.
Should add that if there is money being 'saved' then YES, I do think that any tax rises should be kept in place in the interest of the slowing the increase in the deficit.
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Pavilionaire
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- Jul 7, 2003
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The sheer number of U-turns indicate that these "reactive" Treasury policies are being formulated on the back of a fag packet. It also indicates that the Treasury - both MPs and Civil Servants - are badly out of touch with business and the population in general.
This is all rather worrying, especially on the back of Mervyn King's speech this week where he said he was revising the opinions he was espousing only one month ago. It feels like the behaviour of a Government that know there's some major shit around the corner.
When will the politicians learn that by simplifying tax systems and taxpayer bureaucracy a lot more people will be encouraged to take the plunge and start business or hire staff? Labour are saying none of this either, their "ideas tank" is running on empty too.
This is all rather worrying, especially on the back of Mervyn King's speech this week where he said he was revising the opinions he was espousing only one month ago. It feels like the behaviour of a Government that know there's some major shit around the corner.
When will the politicians learn that by simplifying tax systems and taxpayer bureaucracy a lot more people will be encouraged to take the plunge and start business or hire staff? Labour are saying none of this either, their "ideas tank" is running on empty too.
Shit now hitting the fan. Even a Tory MP is calling Osborn a coward for leaving this junior minister at the mercy of Paxman:
BBC News - David Cameron denies George Osborne after fuel U-turn
BBC News - David Cameron denies George Osborne after fuel U-turn