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[Misc] Parking Eye- Liars
- Thread starter Eeyore
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Official Old Man
Uckfield Seagull
Lots have said ignore it, probably not a good idea.
As for going to court, look at the evidence.
Item 1 picture of you entering. But your judgeship, I was not there sir. What evidence do you have. Whatsapp. No that's not going to work. That is clearly you entering.
I'd stick with the Asda store. Get it cancelled first then make a big thing about it.
Also try the Argus. If you send them the pictures and a ready made script they'll print it online.
As for going to court, look at the evidence.
Item 1 picture of you entering. But your judgeship, I was not there sir. What evidence do you have. Whatsapp. No that's not going to work. That is clearly you entering.
I'd stick with the Asda store. Get it cancelled first then make a big thing about it.
Also try the Argus. If you send them the pictures and a ready made script they'll print it online.
If it’s One Parking Solution, they sent me a picture 3 years ago of my car entering a car park with my number plate clearly showing. They had however doctored the photo as the font was different and the manufactures name on my number plate was not on the picture. I don’t know if Lady Seagull still helps but I would dispute it stating you do not know the driver’s identification but understand that the driver can prove he/she did not enter the car park at that time. Whatever you do,DO NOT PAY THESE SCUMBAGS. They can only enforce the “fine” by taking legal action which I suspect they won’t do.
Coalburner
Active member
- May 22, 2017
- 315
No. The suggestion is that the ENTRY clock is set to GMT and the EXIT clock to BST. That would throw timings out by an hour
Ok. Have about 25 parking fines from these companies dating back to 2015. I just get random letters from various legal companies threatening me. Straight in the shredder. Move on. If it’s a PCN then you need to contest or pay.
To add to my previous post. They are bullies and most people cave in
When we were at the end of a long night and talking utter crap with mates someone asked if you could bring in a minor law of your choosing what would it be? I answered that I would make any parking firm that’s loses an appeal pay a compensation payment of the same amount they were going to charge the victim for wasting their time, causing stress and threatening people with all sorts of crap over something they’ve not done.
Seems too easy to just chuck a load of “fines” threatening to ruin peoples credit rating and worse and have no consequences at all when they are proved wrong.
Seems too easy to just chuck a load of “fines” threatening to ruin peoples credit rating and worse and have no consequences at all when they are proved wrong.
I don’t work for Asda I work for another supermarket but all of our car parks are monitored by Parking Eye too. I’ve got a business contact I can give you , just say you work for Asda and they should cancel the fine. Feel free to PM.
EDIT - just read the whole thread and that they’ve said they’ll cancel it for you. But if they don’t come through for some reason, happy to help
EDIT - just read the whole thread and that they’ve said they’ll cancel it for you. But if they don’t come through for some reason, happy to help
I’ve parked in the marina all day loads of times (when going on boat fishing trips) and never had a ticket.
Half Time Pies
Well-known member
A parking ticket in ASDA is just an invoice, the only way your credit record could be affected, or the bailiffs come around, is if the parking company take you to court, the court rule in favour of the parking operator and you then subsequently refuse to pay.
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Half Time Pies
Well-known member
Its is best not to 'ignore' but there is a process to follow when communicating with the parking operator which is laid out here: https://forums.moneysavingexpert.co...ket-old-or-new-read-these-faqs-first-thankyou
The original poster should not do anything or contact anyone about it until they have read the above thread. The parking operators are generally cowboys who are only interested in one thing which is extorting money from motorists, the more parking fines the better for them as it's what their business model is based on. As a result T&C's/ signage/ appeals processes etc are often purposefully complicated and difficult to understand, communication is designed to appear to be more official than it is and to scare people in to paying, its also common for them to pass you on to 'fictional debt collection companies' and add extra charges which are unenforceable in court. You cant appeal to their better nature and you should never admit anything.
The quickest way to get them cancelled is usually to complain to the landowner, which many people have already suggested on here.
The original poster should not do anything or contact anyone about it until they have read the above thread. The parking operators are generally cowboys who are only interested in one thing which is extorting money from motorists, the more parking fines the better for them as it's what their business model is based on. As a result T&C's/ signage/ appeals processes etc are often purposefully complicated and difficult to understand, communication is designed to appear to be more official than it is and to scare people in to paying, its also common for them to pass you on to 'fictional debt collection companies' and add extra charges which are unenforceable in court. You cant appeal to their better nature and you should never admit anything.
The quickest way to get them cancelled is usually to complain to the landowner, which many people have already suggested on here.
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LadySeagull
Well-known member
Good post above. As are most of the replies.
Some of you know and it's no secret that I'm Coupon-mad on MSE (author of the MSE NEWBIES sticky thread and the Template court defence thread there).
I've never lost a case when speaking as a lay rep for Defendants in court v private parking companies (PPCs).
A bit of background:
I'm also on the Government Steering Group that has been shaping the Private Parking statutory Code of Practice since 2020. That work (unpaid but eye-opening hours of virtual meetings with the parking industry and others) was completed in 2022. But then it was cynically blocked by the moneymen - PPCs & their pet debt crawlers - via Judicial Reviews. The JRs were basically funded by tens of thousands of clueless victims who pay, thinking they have a fine (sigh...it is just an unsolicited invoice).
The statutory Code is not dead; just waiting on Angela Rayner's MHCLG now to finalise it. The 'joint Code' trumpeted last month on BBC news is NOT it! That's a cleverly timed but IMHO cynical smoke & mirrors attempt by the two rival Trade Bodies, who colluded to create a watered down version. I suspect in the hope of hoodwinking Labour Ministers in the MHCLG to just run with that version.
Errr. No. Won't happen on my watch.
Anyhoo...
My take on this one:
- ParkingEye have clearly set one camera clock an hour out when doing some maintenance that day. Unusual but I've seen this error before - from NCP - and I kicked up a stink to the British Parking Association: all PCNs on the date affected were quashed. The explanation was exactly as some have guessed: one ANPR camera is synched to BST and the other to -1 hour. A maintenance issue at this site, soon spotted. I reckon ParkingEye already know about this.
- complaining to Asda is the right first step. With any private PCN, landowner complaint is always 'PLAN A' before even thinking about the farce the industry call 'appeal'.
- getting this in the Argus is a great idea. Jody Doherty-Cove has written articles about PPCs before. Mainly about One Parking Solution due to them being local. He might still be at the Argus? They might well print a piece about this. It would be good to expose it because some saps (and Lease firms or Fleet Managers) will have stupidly just paid, like it's a fine. Daft but true.
- Many PPCs do sue people. Don't shred the letters. DO IGNORE PPC DEBT CRAWLERS - A COMPLETE WASTE OF SPACE. But open all letters to check for a court claim form. Tell them if you move house, of course, and always update your V5C address, not just your driving licence.
- Both ParkingEye and One Parking Solution (they are different companies) are known to litigate - as many PPCs now do - but as long as you defend, you are not risking a CCJ even if you lose, which almost nobody on MSE does. Very easy to defend. I wrote the Template Defence used on MSE and it works. I do these cases every day on MSE and I occasionally rock up in person at Brighton, Worthing or Lewes courts.
But this one will be easy to cancel.
I would love to see this story in the Argus though. The PPC industry is considered by MPs, Motoring groups and those in the know to be rotten to the core.
IMHO and based on my 15 years or so of fighting PPCs, they deserve all the bad press they get. Especially firms that use ANPR without bothering to do sufficient checks.
This issue should have been spotted BEFORE harvesting hundreds of Asda shoppers' DVLA data that day. The sheer numbers will have been huge.
They had no reasonable cause to get your data.
Go for it, OP!
Some of you know and it's no secret that I'm Coupon-mad on MSE (author of the MSE NEWBIES sticky thread and the Template court defence thread there).
I've never lost a case when speaking as a lay rep for Defendants in court v private parking companies (PPCs).
A bit of background:
I'm also on the Government Steering Group that has been shaping the Private Parking statutory Code of Practice since 2020. That work (unpaid but eye-opening hours of virtual meetings with the parking industry and others) was completed in 2022. But then it was cynically blocked by the moneymen - PPCs & their pet debt crawlers - via Judicial Reviews. The JRs were basically funded by tens of thousands of clueless victims who pay, thinking they have a fine (sigh...it is just an unsolicited invoice).
The statutory Code is not dead; just waiting on Angela Rayner's MHCLG now to finalise it. The 'joint Code' trumpeted last month on BBC news is NOT it! That's a cleverly timed but IMHO cynical smoke & mirrors attempt by the two rival Trade Bodies, who colluded to create a watered down version. I suspect in the hope of hoodwinking Labour Ministers in the MHCLG to just run with that version.
Errr. No. Won't happen on my watch.
Anyhoo...
My take on this one:
- ParkingEye have clearly set one camera clock an hour out when doing some maintenance that day. Unusual but I've seen this error before - from NCP - and I kicked up a stink to the British Parking Association: all PCNs on the date affected were quashed. The explanation was exactly as some have guessed: one ANPR camera is synched to BST and the other to -1 hour. A maintenance issue at this site, soon spotted. I reckon ParkingEye already know about this.
- complaining to Asda is the right first step. With any private PCN, landowner complaint is always 'PLAN A' before even thinking about the farce the industry call 'appeal'.
- getting this in the Argus is a great idea. Jody Doherty-Cove has written articles about PPCs before. Mainly about One Parking Solution due to them being local. He might still be at the Argus? They might well print a piece about this. It would be good to expose it because some saps (and Lease firms or Fleet Managers) will have stupidly just paid, like it's a fine. Daft but true.
- Many PPCs do sue people. Don't shred the letters. DO IGNORE PPC DEBT CRAWLERS - A COMPLETE WASTE OF SPACE. But open all letters to check for a court claim form. Tell them if you move house, of course, and always update your V5C address, not just your driving licence.
- Both ParkingEye and One Parking Solution (they are different companies) are known to litigate - as many PPCs now do - but as long as you defend, you are not risking a CCJ even if you lose, which almost nobody on MSE does. Very easy to defend. I wrote the Template Defence used on MSE and it works. I do these cases every day on MSE and I occasionally rock up in person at Brighton, Worthing or Lewes courts.
But this one will be easy to cancel.
I would love to see this story in the Argus though. The PPC industry is considered by MPs, Motoring groups and those in the know to be rotten to the core.
IMHO and based on my 15 years or so of fighting PPCs, they deserve all the bad press they get. Especially firms that use ANPR without bothering to do sufficient checks.
This issue should have been spotted BEFORE harvesting hundreds of Asda shoppers' DVLA data that day. The sheer numbers will have been huge.
They had no reasonable cause to get your data.
Go for it, OP!
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IT'S NOT A FVCKING FINE !!!!!!
ATFC Seagull
Aberystwyth Town FC
I know it's a different company and situation but I have twice had to appeal penalty charges from the Dartford Crossing and both times they just accepted my explanation, not even supported by any evidence.
Maybe just try giving them a call explaining it to them as a first action? If the cameras were out of sync then they are probably aware as you won't. E the only one.
Maybe just try giving them a call explaining it to them as a first action? If the cameras were out of sync then they are probably aware as you won't. E the only one.
Sounds like you devoted much of your life’s work to this. A great cause which I’m sure has helped so many along the way! Thanks
- Mar 23, 2023
- 2,131
Glad it is getting cancelled, I am a pretty easy going kind of a guy, especially when full but I hate these parking operators with a passion.
- Mar 23, 2023
- 2,131
It isn’t often you come across a real life super hero, this is amazing work! Thank you.
Tom Hark Preston Park
Will Post For Cash
- Jul 6, 2003
- 72,359
Who needs the Citizens Advice Bureau when you've got NSC
