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Paddy 'the myth' - a perspective



















Blue Valkyrie

Not seen such Bravery!
Sep 1, 2012
32,165
Valhalla
But we haven't got that either. I'm resigned to the fact we are down if Hyypia stays, I can't see anything that gives me any hope he can turn it around, he really is the most clueless manager I have ever seen...I can't believe he is still here tbh. Bloom in my eyes is really damaging his reputation in some fans eyes..Yes he is a legend but that doesn't mean he is immune to bad decisions. He is a fan at the end of the day, he might know a balance sheet when he see's one, but he knows no more or less about football, than the vast majority of fans and he has got this wrong, on a massive scale.

Totally agree. Hyypia is the new Hinshelwood. He needed to go a month ago.

Totally clueless manager, I just don't understand why Tony doesn't see it.
 


Hugh'sDad

New member
Nov 29, 2011
577
'Ove
Ooops....might have misheard the conversation..
Am In the rubadub...they might have been talking about someone else....could have been Ramashita, perhaps?
 




Langley

New member
Mar 10, 2008
781
Waltham Chase, Hants
I'm sorry but when you are in a relegation battle players like Paddy are a luxury.

I live watching him going on his mazy runs like anyone but so far we haven't scored as a result, but how many have we conceded from having a lightweight player on the pitch.

I am sure you meant LIGHTWEIGHT PLAYERS
 


Buckeejit

Active member
Sep 21, 2014
126
You seem to be basing your point on the argument that because people started raving about him after a couple of cameo appearance where he had a couple of trademark runs, that it somehow disproves the idea fans have gotten carried away over their praise for him.

Which is clearly flawed. The myth can easily have grown since he joined us, especially with threads like this after 2 league cup (v lower division opponents) and one league appearance: https://nortr3nixy.nimpr.uk/showthread.php?309697-Is-Paddy-McCourt-the-best-Albion-player-ever

I'm not suggesting that fans didn't get a bit carried away about Paddy - I'm saying that it happened organically rather than being the result of some pervasive pre-existing "myth" that they'd unthinkingly bought in to... most fans knew **** all about him and were just reacting to what they saw on the pitch

Anyway, its clear that there's a basic split between those who believe that Paddy can bring us something special and those that don't...lets just beg to differ and get on with supporting our team
 


Selling Souls

New member
Oct 5, 2014
4
Thought he played well at White Hart Lane. Disciplined performance and defended well. He seemed the only player capable of keeping the ball for more than 2 seconds. I can't judge him otherwise as he hasn't started and had a run of games to justify forming any other opinion. Would like him to play four or five games for an hour to see if he could help the team get out of a rut. No-one can be expected to come on as sub and try retrieve a game each week, he's in a position then where he has to take risks and be labelled inconsistent or a liability for giving the ball away. As for Barnsley he was a regular for Flitcroft and Melon before Wilson dropped him completely. I'd say at this stage he's probably fed up not getting a chance, with the likely result is he wont be giving 100% in a development squad game.
 




Acker79

Well-known member
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Nov 15, 2008
31,921
Brighton
I'm not suggesting that fans didn't get a bit carried away about Paddy - I'm saying that it happened organically rather than being the result of some pervasive pre-existing "myth" that they'd unthinkingly bought in to... most fans knew **** all about him and were just reacting to what they saw on the pitch

Anyway, its clear that there's a basic split between those who believe that Paddy can bring us something special and those that don't...lets just beg to differ and get on with supporting our team

I don't know if I disagree with you on Paddy or not, yet. I don't think we've seen enough either way to decide. I don't see why people are raving about him, yet, but I think it's too early to write him off.
 








Feb 14, 2010
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If he cant get into his Brighton side either he isnt all that or the manager is not all that for not picking him. Its one or t'other.
 


Husty

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Oct 18, 2008
11,998
If he cant get into his Brighton side either he isnt all that or the manager is not all that for not picking him. Its one or t'other.

He's a long long way from being all that. If we were in league one I might excuse people getting excited about him but this is the championship for crying out loud and we simply can't be carrying someone like him through games.
 


Easy 10

Brain dead MUG SHEEP
Jul 5, 2003
62,424
Location Location
Its one thing looking regularly bloody amazing against a bunch of half-pissed pub teams in Oireland on a YouTube montage. Quite another turning it on to a consistent level in a proper league.

He's another waste of wages here, yet another sad indictment to our shambolic transfer policies this last 6-12 months. Just add McCourt to the ever-expanding scraphead of utterly pointless players this season consisting of Agustein, Holla, O'Grady, Teixeira, Toko, Halford, Al-Habsi....

We've sold the family silver, and replaced it with tupperware. You reap what you sow, and shite like McCourt, led by the monotone dronings of Hyypia, will not be saving us from L1. Drastic action is needed by TB, and soon. But I fear he's painted himself into a corner here, and will be too stubborn to act.
 


Buckeejit

Active member
Sep 21, 2014
126
Aaron Hughes: “I see Paddy day to day now being at Brighton. I see his quality every single training session. We all know what he can do. Paddy brings that flair, that quality.”

I know he comes from "Oireland" the land of "half-pissed pub teams" (Christ - are we back in the 70s??) but its fair to assume that Aaron's assessment of a fellow-professional carries more weight than the borderline-offensive post above
 




Springal

Well-known member
Feb 12, 2005
24,785
GOSBTS
Aaron Hughes: “I see Paddy day to day now being at Brighton. I see his quality every single training session. We all know what he can do. Paddy brings that flair, that quality.”

I know he comes from "Oireland" the land of "half-pissed pub teams" (Christ - are we back in the 70s??) but its fair to assume that Aaron's assessment of a fellow-professional carries more weight than the borderline-offensive post above

He's hardly going to say he's inconsistent and a luxury that isn't what you need in a relegation battle, that needs to be carried occasionally is he?
 


Stat Brother

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NSC Patron
Jul 11, 2003
73,888
West west west Sussex
Its one thing looking regularly bloody amazing against a bunch of half-pissed pub teams in Oireland on a YouTube montage. Quite another turning it on to a consistent level in a proper league.

He's another waste of wages here, yet another sad indictment to our shambolic transfer policies this last 6-12 months. Just add McCourt to the ever-expanding scraphead of utterly pointless players this season consisting of Agustein, Holla, O'Grady, Teixeira, Toko, Halford, Al-Habsi....

We've sold the family silver, and replaced it with tupperware. You reap what you sow, and shite like McCourt, led by the monotone dronings of Hyypia, will not be saving us from L1. Drastic action is needed by TB, and soon. But I fear he's painted himself into a corner here, and will be too stubborn to act.

Oi, Holla's not pointless.

I'll give you the rest though :down:
Although Al-Habsi was necessary, he turned out to be not needed, but he was necessary.
 


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