[Travel] P and O

[clapham_gull]

The silence is deafening from certain disaster capitalists in our ruling party, a blue print for future!!!

And other supposed Union members on here who clearly see their membership as means to an end rather than a means for the many.

Perhaps somebody should tip off their Union about that and their other views.

I'd imagined they'd be appalled.

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[Mackenzie]

I won’t be traveling with P and O.

 

[Pavilionaire]

If this is allowed to happen and P&O get away with it then what is the point of unions?

I will be adding P&O to my personal blacklist of businesses, alongside Wetherspoons and all Russian vodka.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Every Tory MP abstained tonight.

 

[Baker lite]

As the P&O ferries are registered in Cyprus, the question has to be asked, why are the EU allowing this slave labour? Is there not a minimum wage in the EU?

 

[danielson81]

As the P&O ferries are registered in Cyprus, the question has to be asked, why are the EU allowing this slave labour? Is there not a minimum wage in the EU?

Its done by country, and it looks like Cyprus is about to: https://knews.kathimerini.com.cy/en...ional-minimum-wage-by-the-end-of-january-2022

Nice table: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_European_Union_member_states_by_minimum_wage

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Its done by country, and it looks like Cyprus is about to: https://knews.kathimerini.com.cy/en...ional-minimum-wage-by-the-end-of-january-2022

Nice table: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_European_Union_member_states_by_minimum_wage

It’s almost as if each country has the sovereignty to decide for themselves even whilst in the EU.

 

[Green Cross Code Man]

It’s almost as if each country has the sovereignty to decide for themselves even whilst in the EU.

Was hourly rate ever contested otherwise?

 

[Wozza]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/kwasi-kwarteng-rmt-p-o-government-chancellor-b2041657.html

Compensation is £15k to £170k for each worker.

Nice work if you can get... oh no, wait.

 

[nicko31]

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Every Tory MP abstained tonight.

Plenty of faux outrage in the Tories, but for many this really is the stuff of dreams. deregulation, lowering standards, fewer rights....

 

[BrightonCottager]

What I didn't know until this morning on R4 is that P&O have been given taxpayer £s to set up 2 freeports (onshore tax havens much used for smuggling ) which has been Rishi Sunak's 'thing' since he was fresh out of University. I'm not holding my breath waiting for them to break the contract.

 

[nicko31]

What I didn't know until this morning on R4 is that P&O have been given taxpayer £s to set up 2 freeports (onshore tax havens much used for smuggling ) which has been Rishi Sunak's 'thing' since he was fresh out of University. I'm not holding my breath waiting for them to break the contract.

Aside of who runs them I remain far from convinced if they are in the national interest.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Those of us who thought the redundancies were illegal didn't realise that Grayling cleared the way in 2018 for this to happen.

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https://news.sky.com/story/po-ferri...d-to-tell-govt-maritime-lawyer-says-12572920?
A change in the law signed off by former Conservative minister Chris Grayling cleared the way for P&O Ferries to legally sack 800 staff last week without telling the government, a leading maritime lawyer has told Sky News.

Legislation to protect employees in the UK was amended by Mr Grayling in 2018 so that the secretary of state does not have to be notified of mass redundancies on ships registered overseas.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

It’s almost as if each country has the sovereignty to decide for themselves even whilst in the EU.

Johnson has just claimed on PMQT that had we been in the EU we would have had no power to stop the P&O sackings.

What chutzpa.

It's a lie, isn't it.

 

[Springal]

Those of us who thought the redundancies were illegal didn't realise that Grayling cleared the way in 2018 for this to happen.

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A change in the law signed off by former Conservative minister Chris Grayling cleared the way for P&O Ferries to legally sack 800 staff last week without telling the government, a leading maritime lawyer has told Sky News.

Legislation to protect employees in the UK was amended by Mr Grayling in 2018 so that the secretary of state does not have to be notified of mass redundancies on ships registered overseas.

The great British public know what they were voting for and everyone needs to respect the will of the people.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

What I didn't know until this morning on R4 is that P&O have been given taxpayer £s to set up 2 freeports (onshore tax havens much used for smuggling ) which has been Rishi Sunak's 'thing' since he was fresh out of University. I'm not holding my breath waiting for them to break the contract.

Johnson's reply to criticism of this on PMQT just now was that they are in favour of commerce and jobs, wheras labour is against this.

 

[Since1982]

Johnson has just claimed on PMQT that had we been in the EU we would have had no power to stop the P&O sackings.

What chutzpa.

It's a lie, isn't it.

Very much looking forward to him stopping them then - and as for all of those P&O sackings in the EU.................what a charlatan he is.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Johnson has just claimed on PMQT that had we been in the EU we would have had no power to stop the P&O sackings.

What chutzpa.

It's a lie, isn't it.

Johnson and lies go hand in hand. The French & Dutch P&O workers are still in a job.

 

[beorhthelm]

Those of us who thought the redundancies were illegal didn't realise that Grayling cleared the way in 2018 for this to happen.

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https://news.sky.com/story/po-ferri...d-to-tell-govt-maritime-lawyer-says-12572920?
A change in the law signed off by former Conservative minister Chris Grayling cleared the way for P&O Ferries to legally sack 800 staff last week without telling the government, a leading maritime lawyer has told Sky News.

Legislation to protect employees in the UK was amended by Mr Grayling in 2018 so that the secretary of state does not have to be notified of mass redundancies on ships registered overseas.

a change, according to that article, that the unions supported because it increased the protection for seafarers. the flag state needs to be notified, rather than no notification before the amendment. so did P&O notify Cyprus?

it's looking rather acedemic, increasing looks like its legal due to the various international standards, and the crew massive payoffs will discourage any tribunals.

 

[beorhthelm]

Johnson has just claimed on PMQT that had we been in the EU we would have had no power to stop the P&O sackings.

What chutzpa.

It's a lie, isn't it.

thats the summary view of CIPD (missus is in HR). the law hasnt changed here, the EU and international law hasnt changed. significant change was registration to Cyprus, so UK law no longer applicable. pretty much the same happened with Irish Ferries over a decade ago.