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[Help] Out of my depth and need help regarding a private companies parking ticket



SK1NT

Well-known member
Sep 9, 2003
8,762
Thames Ditton
NSC hasn't let me down yet in such matters, so here's hoping.

I got a parking ticket last September out side of my flat. We live in a private road and i am a freeholder of my flat. My permit had fallen and wasn't visible (i don't know if they can prove this or whether i can just say it was visible) The car ticketing firm work for us and being a free holder thought they can't ticket me.

I have now received a letter from a court asking to pay £250 or go to court. The letter is asking for really intrusive detail such as salary, how much is in my bank account, is this normal? .

Do i have a leg to stand on? They are technically ticketing on my property (obviously i am a free holder with 50 other flats)

Any help will be greatly appreciated.
 




Arthritic Toe

Well-known member
Nov 25, 2005
2,484
Swindon
Hoisted by your own petard! If you hire these scumbags you can't really complain when they apply their unreasonable behaviour to you as well as everyone else.
 






beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
36,015
reckon you need to talk to your management company
 




Westdene Seagull

aka Cap'n Carl Firecrotch
NSC Patron
Oct 27, 2003
21,526
The arse end of Hangleton
NSC hasn't let me down yet in such matters, so here's hoping.

I got a parking ticket last September out side of my flat. We live in a private road and i am a freeholder of my flat. My permit had fallen and wasn't visible (i don't know if they can prove this or whether i can just say it was visible) The car ticketing firm work for us and being a free holder thought they can't ticket me.

I have now received a letter from a court asking to pay £250 or go to court. The letter is asking for really intrusive detail such as salary, how much is in my bank account, is this normal? .

Do i have a leg to stand on? They are technically ticketing on my property (obviously i am a free holder with 50 other flats)

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Who are the parking company ?
Who employed the parking company - a managing agent or the freeholders ?
Have you ignored previous letters ?
Are you sure they a real court papers ?

Oh - and this is EXACTLY why people like me and [MENTION=18265]LadySeagull[/MENTION] (campaigners who get these 'tickets' cancelled) tell freeholders not to use these scum. You have indeed brought this on yourself - what idiot thought it was a good idea ?
 


Codner's Crackpipe

Active member
Feb 25, 2005
184
Some harsh replies to this so far. I had a similar situation in the past, clamped in my own parking space in a big new build development. In my case (and i suspect the OPs), residents had close to zero influence over any aspect of how the communal areas of the development were managed, and ultimately concluded that it's positively set up to screw them over to the limit that the (ridiculously weak) law will allow.

Sympathies, but can't help with the actual issue, sorry.
 






Westdene Seagull

aka Cap'n Carl Firecrotch
NSC Patron
Oct 27, 2003
21,526
The arse end of Hangleton
Some harsh replies to this so far. I had a similar situation in the past, clamped in my own parking space in a big new build development. In my case (and i suspect the OPs), residents had close to zero influence over any aspect of how the communal areas of the development were managed, and ultimately concluded that it's positively set up to screw them over to the limit that the (ridiculously weak) law will allow.

Sympathies, but can't help with the actual issue, sorry.

The key word in his post is 'freeholder' that means he has every influence needed.
 


sussex_guy2k2

Well-known member
Jun 6, 2014
4,080
My first question to them would be a simple "show me proof"...

Don't commit to anything until they have.
 






Knocky's Nose

Mon nez est retiré.
May 7, 2017
4,190
Eastbourne
My wife works at the local general hospital. She was part of a paediatric emergency response team for about 3 years, which meant if a child was arriving via ambulance and needed specialist emergency treatment my Mrs would get bleeped and spin down in the car to attend as the child arrived. We only lived a couple of miles away, so she was always happy to have the 'bleep' on her.

On some occasions, every second counted - and she'd ditch the car in the car park without a ticket and sprint over to A&E to meet the ambulance as it arrived. She used to leave a pre-written note on the dashboard saying who she was, where she worked, staff number, and what she was doing. She always got a ticket from the private parking control company who were employed to 'Police' the car park.

Every single time I told her carefully remove it from her windscreen... and throw it as far across the car park as she could. Never once was she chased for it. They were just trying it on.

Turns out her colleagues never had the same approach and had paid literally hundreds of pounds in fines between them. They never brought it up with anyone, never mentioned, just paid up to keep the peace as the tickets sounded so threatening.

They'd actually paid a fine to save a child's life.... Can anyone tell me what's right about that?

So - if it was me, it take a large piece of dog shit (or cat, seems popular these days), wrap the ticket around it, and post it to their head office with no covering letter. You can then deny ever receiving the ticket if it all comes on top and blame some local joker. :wink:

Either way, I wouldn't pay.
 


Westdene Seagull

aka Cap'n Carl Firecrotch
NSC Patron
Oct 27, 2003
21,526
The arse end of Hangleton
My wife works at the local general hospital. She was part of a paediatric emergency response team for about 3 years, which meant if a child was arriving via ambulance and needed specialist emergency treatment my Mrs would get bleeped and spin down in the car to attend as the child arrived. We only lived a couple of miles away, so she was always happy to have the 'bleep' on her.

On some occasions, every second counted - and she'd ditch the car in the car park without a ticket and sprint over to A&E to meet the ambulance as it arrived. She used to leave a pre-written note on the dashboard saying who she was, where she worked, staff number, and what she was doing. She always got a ticket from the private parking control company who were employed to 'Police' the car park.

Every single time I told her carefully remove it from her windscreen... and throw it as far across the car park as she could. Never once was she chased for it. They were just trying it on.

Turns out her colleagues never had the same approach and had paid literally hundreds of pounds in fines between them. They never brought it up with anyone, never mentioned, just paid up to keep the peace as the tickets sounded so threatening.

They'd actually paid a fine to save a child's life.... Can anyone tell me what's right about that?

So - if it was me, it take a large piece of dog shit (or cat, seems popular these days), wrap the ticket around it, and post it to their head office with no covering letter. You can then deny ever receiving the ticket if it all comes on top and blame some local joker. :wink:

Either way, I wouldn't pay.

Poor poor advice - a number of these parking parasites do court - Capita's Parking Eye being the biggest shyster. You need to know the operating history of the company to be able to even suggest ignore. Ignore Parking Eye and you get a CCJ, ignore One Parking Solutions and you probably are safe. Hence the standard advice of NEVER ignore .... but of course NEVER pay either !
 


SK1NT

Well-known member
Sep 9, 2003
8,762
Thames Ditton
Ha tough shit.

Anyone who lines the pockets of these private parking companies and then falls foul of them deserves everything they get.


Hoisted by your own petard! If you hire these scumbags you can't really complain when they apply their unreasonable behaviour to you as well as everyone else.


I can assure you i would never have hired such scumbags. I am just one freeholder out of 50 flats. The directors chose to bring these scumbags in. I have and always will be against it.


Who are the parking company ?
Who employed the parking company - a managing agent or the freeholders ?
Have you ignored previous letters ?
Are you sure they a real court papers ?

Oh - and this is EXACTLY why people like me and [MENTION=18265]LadySeagull[/MENTION] (campaigners who get these 'tickets' cancelled) tell freeholders not to use these scum. You have indeed brought this on yourself - what idiot thought it was a good idea ?

Thanks for some people trying to help...

The company is :

UK CAR PARK MANAGEMENT LIMITED
19 NEW ROAD
BRIGHTON

Unfortunately i did ignore their previous correspondence because i thought that they would realise i live there and that i was calling their bluff, obviously wrong. Should have just paid the £60.

I am not sure that they are real court papers but i called the solicitors acting on behalf of the parking company and they said it's out of their hands now and i have to contact the court.
 




Westdene Seagull

aka Cap'n Carl Firecrotch
NSC Patron
Oct 27, 2003
21,526
The arse end of Hangleton
I can assure you i would never have hired such scumbags. I am just one freeholder out of 50 flats. The directors chose to bring these scumbags in. I have and always will be against it.




Thanks for some people trying to help...

The company is :

UK CAR PARK MANAGEMENT LIMITED
19 NEW ROAD
BRIGHTON

Unfortunately i did ignore their previous correspondence because i thought that they would realise i live there and that i was calling their bluff, obviously wrong. Should have just paid the £60.

I am not sure that they are real court papers but i called the solicitors acting on behalf of the parking company and they said it's out of their hands now and i have to contact the court.

I'll PM you with my email address - need to see a photo of the so called court papers. Don't add any further detail to this thread for now.
 


SK1NT

Well-known member
Sep 9, 2003
8,762
Thames Ditton
To make things that little bit worse... i got the ticket on the day of my little boys 1st birthday :down:

I doubt i could appeal to their good nature if i showed them his birth certificate ....
 


Westdene Seagull

aka Cap'n Carl Firecrotch
NSC Patron
Oct 27, 2003
21,526
The arse end of Hangleton
To make things that little bit worse... i got the ticket on the day of my little boys 1st birthday :down:

I doubt i could appeal to their good nature if i showed them his birth certificate ....

When was the last time you knew a scumbag to have a 'good nature' ? Regardless, you won't be paying this :wink:
 


SK1NT

Well-known member
Sep 9, 2003
8,762
Thames Ditton
When was the last time you knew a scumbag to have a 'good nature' ? Regardless, you won't be paying this :wink:

I really hope so. It originally use to be £100 and we paid this the first day we moved into the flat. Then we paid another £100 when my partner parked slightly outside of a line (purely because the other car forced her out)

Friends and family have all ended up paying. Our best friend was popping in for 5 minutes to feed the cats last month and she got another fine, but she paid.
 




Official Old Man

Uckfield Seagull
Aug 27, 2011
9,101
Brighton
Out of interest, other than yourself, other freeholders, friends and family, have any 'outsiders' been fined and do you get anything back from the company?
Whilst Westdene Seagull will get you out of this, I'd have asked for proof that your permit was not visable.
 


mothy

Well-known member
Dec 30, 2012
2,283
Like westdene seagull. There is a guy called Tony Taylor who is on a Facebook group called something like fight your private parking ticket who for £10 fee will appeal your ticket for you. He has a 90% success rate out of a couple thousand tickets - he won it for me. I could have done it myself but was easier & cheaper / less time c9nsuming to let him/ them do it.

Never ignore a ticket & never admit you were driving - most of these cowboys dont have correct wording, formats or compliance with regs for the ticket to he valid & even if they have you can still get off- ignoring is as bad as admitting guilt.

Best wishes..
 


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