Our squad depth is wafer thin......

[Bring back Bryan wade!!]

So who are currently our 4 centre halves available for selection then

Now I know you are an idiot. What position do we not have covered. I think we have at least two options for every position on the pitch don't we.

LISTEN CAREFULLY. WE HAVE NINE PLAYERS OUT INJURED/SUSPENDED. WE STILL HAVE EVERY POSITION COVERED. STOP TAKING SHIT

 

[Mr Burns]

That doesn't make any sense either....

Well it wouldn't to you would it.

 

[Bring back Bryan wade!!]

Well it wouldn't to you would it.

Your out of your depth burns, take a step back and reflect on the situation.

 

[Mr Burns]

So who are currently our 4 centre halves available for selection then

Are you really that f***ing stupid? Actually I think you have just answered that for all to see with that reply.

We have Dunk, we have Greer, we have El Abd, we have Grant Hall. I count that as four. Vincealot is suspended so thats five. Cook is recallable after the next game, so thats six.

NO. FOR TWO WHOLE GAMES WE NEVER HAD 4 centre backs with 1st team experience, we had three available, so didnt have cover for every position for every single game.... but then if you going to think like that, then a squad of 22 is surely no good, as you will need cover, for the cover, when they are covering, by your strange thought process.

 

[Mr Burns]

Your out of your depth burns, take a step back and reflect on the situation.

Your serious aren't you. You really are serious. Incredible.

So what you want then, is a super large squad, multipile cover for each position (not someone who can cover a number of positions, but two or three that can cover each position

You winge that Navarro is at best a league one player, where do you except the money to come from to sign 22 plus (by your thinking 33) championship class players, to cover every position twice? Thats what you seem to be wanting at the moment.

I think you are the one that needs to take a step back and have a think sonny boy.

If we never had nine or ten players out tomorrow, I would tend to back you up, but we are down to the bare bones.

How many championship players do you think Brighton can afford in their first season in the Championship.

Its take time to build a decent squad.

Whatt do you not understand about that?

 

[Guy Fawkes]

Clearly Poyet rates cook so highly, that must be why he is selling him to Bournemouth.....

As Poyet says, they will discuss this with all the involved parties and decide from there what is the best course of action for Cooks career. How can someone stop a player from developing and playing at a high level just to play a back up role where he may never get a game?

It doesn't mean that he isn't highly rated or valued by a manager or club. KLL was highly rated, but we still managed to sign him

You really do come out with some crackers Burns my son. All the others are makeshift CB's and not good enough to play in that position consistently at this level. Elphick is out for the season.

So how we should have known that Elphick was going to be out for the season back in August? you know when he was only expected to be out for a similar time as El-Abd (who is hardly a makeshift CB)

Players are able to play in more than one position, and they are the types of players managers like to have in their squad as it frees up wages to spend elsewhere if you have someone who can adapt and play where required (and helps to keep the squad happy s its one player rather than 2 who may be fighting it out for a game)

Vincelot started his career as a FB so he was cover for that position at the start of the season, there was the loan window (which we used following injuries) but is also good at CB and in midfield (as he has demonstrated by his performances).

Would you have said Dunk wasn't good enough before the season started? How can you judge who is? surely the manager is best placed to make these calls and if he sees something needs changing he will act when it is possible and if the right player is available. There are transfer windows and loan window rules we have to adhere to.

How many players who can play at CB do you think we should have had in our squad prior to the start of the season if 7 wasn't enough to cover 2 positions? (Greer, Dunk, El-Abd, Elphick, Cook, Vincelot, Calderon) - And besides, CB hasn't really been a problem position for us so far has it so why focus your ranting there?

 

[Guy Fawkes]

Your serious aren't you. You really are serious. Incredible.

So what you want then, is a super large squad, multipile cover for each position (not someone who can cover a number of positions, but two or three that can cover each position

You winge that Navarro is at best a league one player, where do you except the money to come from to sign 22 plus (by your thinking 33) championship class players, to cover every position twice? Thats what you seem to be wanting at the moment.

I think you are the one that needs to take a step back and have a think sonny boy.

If we never had nine or ten players out tomorrow, I would tend to back you up, but we are down to the bare bones.

How many championship players do you think Brighton can afford in their first season in the Championship.

Its take time to build a decent squad.

Whatt do you not understand about that?

The only thing you forgot to add was that if you have a large squad of first team players like BBBW expects, how do you keep them all happy and motivated whilst they are sitting in the reserves? Decent Championship players would want to play regularly or does BBBW think we should rotate the team to keep them all involved leading to an unsettled side and inconsistant performances where we don't get the best from our squad.

I agree with you and hope that the OP is just on a wind up, but sadly i'm beginning to doubt it.

 

[Mr Burns]

The only thing you forgot to add was that if you have a large squad of first team players like BBBW expects, how do you keep them all happy and motivated whilst they are sitting in the reserves? Decent Championship players would want to play regularly or does BBBW think we should rotate the team to keep them all involved leading to an unsettled side and inconsistant performances where we don't get the best from our squad.

I agree with you and hope that the OP is just on a wind up, but sadly i'm beginning to doubt it.

I sort of hinted at it but it goes without saying really. If he can't grasp the other things we've been trying to get over to him, there's not much point in pointing that out to him.


Funny, after giving someone 10 minutes before chasing them up for an answer earlier in the thread, he's seems to have gone!

Maybe he's taken is own advice, and took a step back and reflect on the situation, after seeing how much of a wally he was making himself look.

You can tell he's one of our more "special" members the way he puts his answer before the quote, unlike 99.999% of other forum users. Not one of NSCs finest!

 

[LamieRobertson]

This 'sicknote' term..such a lovely way to describe a player who's suffering from injuries ..hmmm

 

[Guy Fawkes]

I am not saying we should be achieving automatic promotion but a squad of 22 with cover for every position should have been realistic

Goalkeepers - 1 position, 3 squad players
Casper Ankergren
Peter Brezovan
Michael Poke

Centerbacks - 2 positions, 7 squad players
Gordon Greer
Lewis Dunk
Romain Vincelot
Adam El-Abd
Steve Cook
Tommy Elphick
Inigo Calderon

Full backs - 2 positions, 4 players
Inigo Calderon
Marcos Painter
Mauricio Taricco
Romain Vincelot

Center Midfield - 2 or 3 positions, 8 players minimum
Liam Bridcutt
Alan Navarro
Ryan Harley
Adam El-Abd
Gary Dicker
Matt Sparrow
Yaser Kasim
Jake Forster-Caskey
(excluding players like Noone who can play at the point of a diamond if we chose that formation)

Wingers - 1 or 2 positions, 4 players
Craig Noone
Vincente Rodriguez
Kazenga Lua Lua
Will Buckley

Strikers - 1 or 2 positions, 4 players
Craig Mackail-Smith
Ashley Barnes
Will Buckley
Will Hoskins
(Billy Paynter was then brought due to Buckley and Hoskins being out injured, showing the manager reacting to a situation not of his making)

So we actually had a decent amount of cover in our 24 man squad for this season and prior to the injuries and suspensions that we are currently suffering (which is why we have a squad of players anyway, to cover for these eventualities should they occur) - so what is your point again?

* this doesn't include some of the other youngsters who might also be able to step up if needed, like Grant Hall

 

[Napper]

Grossly unfair on el abd. Player of the season and just getting fit following long injury. Has done well in the Derby and burnley games in particular . Has a dodgy game out of position and the anti el abd drum gets its first beat .

Have some respect for all he has done for us , remember how often he has been written off and cut the guy some slack . People on here are like sheep and before you know it el abd will be Mr villlian again. Not fair at all .

 

[ArcticBlue]

How can a 23 year old have growing pains FFS!!

This comment repeats the ignorance of your opening post. I can only presume you have little understanding of managing a football club and it's players.

 

[Bring back Bryan wade!!]

Grant Hall a championship quality CB?!? FFS Burns you really are an imbecile of the highest order

Are you really that f***ing stupid? Actually I think you have just answered that for all to see with that reply.

We have Dunk, we have Greer, we have El Abd, we have Grant Hall. I count that as four. Vincealot is suspended so thats five. Cook is recallable after the next game, so thats six.

NO. FOR TWO WHOLE GAMES WE NEVER HAD 4 centre backs with 1st team experience, we had three available, so didnt have cover for every position for every single game.... but then if you going to think like that, then a squad of 22 is surely no good, as you will need cover, for the cover, when they are covering, by your strange thought process.

 

[Bring back Bryan wade!!]

This comment repeats the ignorance of your opening post. I can only presume you have little understanding of managing a football club and it's players.

I cant imagine there are many on here with professional football managerial experience.......

 

[Uncle Spielberg]

I will back up Bryan in so far as Poyet's signings have been schockingly bad. Maybe thats why Tony is keeping the purse strings tight as he can see Poyet has spunked away millions of his money. I worry if Poyet has £ 20 m to spend who on earth he would sign. To me that is the major flaw in Poyet. All the other assets far outstrip this however and I think he should be given 3 seasons to be challenging for the Premiership. Promotion this season is too ridiculous to contemplate.

 

[Bring back Bryan wade!!]

Where have I ever said we need 33 players you fool.....

Your serious aren't you. You really are serious. Incredible.

So what you want then, is a super large squad, multipile cover for each position (not someone who can cover a number of positions, but two or three that can cover each position

You winge that Navarro is at best a league one player, where do you except the money to come from to sign 22 plus (by your thinking 33) championship class players, to cover every position twice? Thats what you seem to be wanting at the moment.

I think you are the one that needs to take a step back and have a think sonny boy.

If we never had nine or ten players out tomorrow, I would tend to back you up, but we are down to the bare bones.

How many championship players do you think Brighton can afford in their first season in the Championship.

Its take time to build a decent squad.

Whatt do you not understand about that?

 

[Bring back Bryan wade!!]

I will back up Bryan in so far as Poyet's signings have been schockingly bad. Maybe thats why Tony is keeping the purse strings tight as he can see Poyet has spunked away millions of his money. I worry if Poyet has £ 20 m to spend who on earth he would sign. To me that is the major flaw in Poyet. All the other assets far outstrip this however and I think he should be given 3 seasons to be challenging for the Premiership. Promotion this season is too ridiculous to contemplate.

Thanks US nice to see someone else with a modicum of common sense also posts on here

 

[Bring back Bryan wade!!]

Grossly unfair on el abd. Player of the season and just getting fit following long injury. Has done well in the Derby and burnley games in particular . Has a dodgy game out of position and the anti el abd drum gets its first beat .

Have some respect for all he has done for us , remember how often he has been written off and cut the guy some slack . People on here are like sheep and before you know it el abd will be Mr villlian again. Not fair at all .

I have massive respect for Adam a fantastic servant to the club Dougal. However in my opinion he is not championship quality, we are all entitled to our own viewpoints.

 

[Uncle Spielberg]

El Abd has earned his chance in the Championship without doubt. A BHAFC legend. Its the others I worry about ! Vicente for example maybe a Lambourghini of football, but that WAS not IS and is not fit to lace Adam's boots imo. I want players who are desperate to pull on the BHAFC shirt, Adam fits that category and I would rather have a team of Adam's and go down, than a team of Vicente's and go up.

 

[Bring back Bryan wade!!]

I am not talking about the volume of players who can cover I am talking about the quality of said cover

Goalkeepers - 1 position, 3 squad players
Casper Ankergren
Peter Brezovan
Michael Poke

Centerbacks - 2 positions, 7 squad players
Gordon Greer
Lewis Dunk
Romain Vincelot
Adam El-Abd
Steve Cook
Tommy Elphick
Inigo Calderon

Full backs - 2 positions, 4 players
Inigo Calderon
Marcos Painter
Mauricio Taricco
Romain Vincelot

Center Midfield - 2 or 3 positions, 8 players minimum
Liam Bridcutt
Alan Navarro
Ryan Harley
Adam El-Abd
Gary Dicker
Matt Sparrow
Yaser Kasim
Jake Forster-Caskey
(excluding players like Noone who can play at the point of a diamond if we chose that formation)

Wingers - 1 or 2 positions, 4 players
Craig Noone
Vincente Rodriguez
Kazenga Lua Lua
Will Buckley

Strikers - 1 or 2 positions, 4 players
Craig Mackail-Smith
Ashley Barnes
Will Buckley
Will Hoskins
(Billy Paynter was then brought due to Buckley and Hoskins being out injured, showing the manager reacting to a situation not of his making)

So we actually had a decent amount of cover in our 24 man squad for this season and prior to the injuries and suspensions that we are currently suffering (which is why we have a squad of players anyway, to cover for these eventualities should they occur) - so what is your point again?

* this doesn't include some of the other youngsters who might also be able to step up if needed, like Grant Hall