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[Football] Ollie Watkins



Blue Valkyrie

Not seen such Bravery!
Sep 1, 2012
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No I do not think we should go any higher than Tony thinks is his maximum.

Honestly, we are fast running out of options that I am aware of. But I am sure our ‘magnificent’ recruitment team will bring us a winner.


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I'm sure the recruitment team will succeed ( as per the parameters Tony instructs them to work to ) as well.

If it turns out that 20 or 30 or 40 million pound COVID losses mean that - for this summer only - the striker needs to be a loan, then so be it.
 






yxee

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Oct 24, 2011
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Spending huge money in a transfer panic got us Locadia and Ali J. I'm actually happier for us to bide our time and work on more scouting than spend £30m on a risk.
 


Justice

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Jun 21, 2012
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No I do not think we should go any higher than Tony thinks is his maximum.

Honestly, we are fast running out of options that I am aware of. But I am sure our ‘magnificent’ recruitment team will bring us a winner.


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If you are confident we will sign a striker why do keep bitchin ???
 






Springal

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Feb 12, 2005
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Spending huge money in a transfer panic got us Locadia and Ali J. I'm actually happier for us to bide our time and work on more scouting than spend £30m on a risk.

Did we panic with Ali J ? We were 'courting' him for years
 


Stat Brother

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Jul 11, 2003
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Spending huge money in a transfer panic got us Locadia and Ali J. I'm actually happier for us to bide our time and work on more scouting than spend £30m on a risk.
Big Jurg arrived in the middle of the month, scoring in his debut in the FA Cup 4th round, before the end of Jan.

Ali J was courted by the club for at least 3 years.


Other than that you've nailed it.
 


herecomesaregular

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Oct 27, 2008
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No I do not think we should go any higher than Tony thinks is his maximum.

Honestly, we are fast running out of options that I am aware of. But I am sure our ‘magnificent’ recruitment team will bring us a winner.


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So hysterical, bet you're fun in a crisis.

Agree with others who posted we should be careful. Would rather we didn't burn money again on punts such as Locadia & Jahanbags. Don't agree that something/anything is better than nothing, for the future of the club.
 






Jim in the West

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Sep 13, 2003
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Tony has been very clear about the club's strategy - we need to be sustainable (ie, not hugely loss-making). Covid has hit everyone hard, but when you're aiming for sustainability it is even more of an issue. The likes of Villa, Everton, and even Leeds, are clearly less concerned about the financial implications of spending big. Chelsea, Man Utd and a few others are obviously on a different planet.

A key part of Tony's strategy is to develop our own players. That's why we've spent so much on Lancing, and continue to hoover up promising youngsters from around Europe at little initial out-lay. Some of them will come good (although they need time). We're just not in the market for £30m gambles.

The evidence of this transfer window is that we are playing things safe - Lallana & Veltman for example. I'm sure we'd be willing to spend £20m (say), but we'd have to be pretty sure that player was going to succeed. The recruitment team will have learned lessons from the Locadia and Ali J purchases. Big money since then has been spent on Trossard, Maupay and Webster - all successful.

I'm sure we'll bring in a couple more signings, but in line with the strategy - which certainly excludes £30m+ on Ollie Watkins (even if he did really well in the Championship last year).
 


drew

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Oct 3, 2006
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Exeter have a 20% sell on clause which is why the figure is so high, it’s a risk but go for it. No worse than Joeliton


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I don't think you can use that as an excuse as to why it is so high. Fact is Brentford know Villa are desperate for a goal scorer and have squeezed as much as they can out of the deal.

Sell on clauses don't increase the value of a player, that is still just between the seller and buyer agreeing a price that each accept.
 




Reddleman

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May 17, 2017
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Tony has been very clear about the club's strategy - we need to be sustainable (ie, not hugely loss-making). Covid has hit everyone hard, but when you're aiming for sustainability it is even more of an issue. The likes of Villa, Everton, and even Leeds, are clearly less concerned about the financial implications of spending big. Chelsea, Man Utd and a few others are obviously on a different planet.

A key part of Tony's strategy is to develop our own players. That's why we've spent so much on Lancing, and continue to hoover up promising youngsters from around Europe at little initial out-lay. Some of them will come good (although they need time). We're just not in the market for £30m gambles.

The evidence of this transfer window is that we are playing things safe - Lallana & Veltman for example. I'm sure we'd be willing to spend £20m (say), but we'd have to be pretty sure that player was going to succeed. The recruitment team will have learned lessons from the Locadia and Ali J purchases. Big money since then has been spent on Trossard, Maupay and Webster - all successful.

I'm sure we'll bring in a couple more signings, but in line with the strategy - which certainly excludes £30m+ on Ollie Watkins (even if he did really well in the Championship last year).

I agree with much of what you said but we have brought in nearly £20m in transfer fees and have spent virtually nothing on transfers.

We have also let a number of our bigger earners leave. I get that we have a model but the season starts on Monday and we want to hit the ground running. I am concerned that the pandemic has had a bigger impact that we suspected as a net spend of minus £20m does not suggest to me we are going to be in a good place for next season.
 


Jim in the West

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I agree with much of what you said but we have brought in nearly £20m in transfer fees and have spent virtually nothing on transfers.

We have also let a number of our bigger earners leave. I get that we have a model but the season starts on Monday and we want to hit the ground running. I am concerned that the pandemic has had a bigger impact that we suspected as a net spend of minus £20m does not suggest to me we are going to be in a good place for next season.

Yes - I've been concerned about the impact of the pandemic. I noticed Tony was looking pretty haggard in a couple of interviews he did during lockdown (maybe I was being paranoid!). I was slightly reassured by the fact that we were completely uninterested in Leeds' £25m for Ben White. But there are clubs like us, Burnley, Palace, possibly Southampton, Newcastle (probably), West Brom, Fulham (fingers burnt previously), who are not able or willing to throw so much around.
 






Grombleton

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Dec 31, 2011
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Welcome to the strikers graveyard, Ollie.
 


saafend_seagull

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Jul 5, 2003
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Absolutely mental. Less prolific than maupay. 1.5 years older when we bought him too yet 50% more expensive

No doubt will be in next england squad since he plays for villa


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trueblue

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Jul 5, 2003
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Hove
I really fancied Ollie Watkins but, at that price, I'm glad we let Villa get on with it. Stupid money in a very uncertain world.
 






albion534

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Mar 4, 2010
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I don't think you can use that as an excuse as to why it is so high. Fact is Brentford know Villa are desperate for a goal scorer and have squeezed as much as they can out of the deal.

Sell on clauses don't increase the value of a player, that is still just between the seller and buyer agreeing a price that each accept.

I’d disagree, if you sold a player knowing 20% would be lost. You’d want as much as possible and yeah Brentford know villa are desperate, so it’s been a win win.


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