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Good guess. Unfortunately, no.
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Good guess. Unfortunately, no.
Freddie Goodwin.
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Sadly, by Mike bailey's time, my fanatical following of everything albion had been chipped away at be drink, a wife & kids. Can't name all from that pick and no idea of that guy next to Bailey and I'll not cheat by looking it up.
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Didn't we sign two Israeli's, was it the other?
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Didn't he play for Chester for years?
It is Tommy Mason, I think he came from Fulham, but definitely Tommy Mason, left back, think he played a couple of first team games.
The other Israeli was Jacob Cohen .........
Freddie Goodwin.
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I beg to differ and will say that it is deffinatly NOT the Tommy Mason signed, along with Ricky marlowe, by Peter Taylor (the 1st) from Derby.
That TM was a small but tenacious midfield player who didn't quite get the chance he hoped for down here. He also had straight hair and a little beared. used to see him down Sherry's too.
He might not be the Tommy Mason you allude to, however it is Tommy Mason signed 1983'sh.
Signed by Bailey and his assistant John Collins.
Freddie Goodwin.
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Did TM2 ever play?
Must get my old books out one day.
Well, Sir, you are right in that it's listed as Tommy Mason in the team pic but only the 'real' TM is listed in the A-Z and and TM2 was not one of the 19(!) players who appeared in that81/82 season.
Must get my old books out one day.
Well, Sir, you are right in that it's listed as Tommy Mason in the team pic but only the 'real' TM is listed in the A-Z and and TM2 was not one of the 19(!) players who appeared in that81/82 season.
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Yeah, he was from Fulham I think, I am sure he played in a couple of first team games, but more likely a cup game or two, rather than league.
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Looking at the Tim Carder book, Tommy Mason Mk 2 made no first team appearances for the Albion (I hadn't heard of him before finding that old squad photo). Nor did Mike Kerslake, despite appearing in numerous team photos in various seasons for the Albion.
Thanks for the info on Tommy Mason Mk 1 - I hadn't known there was one!
Thanks for the info on Tommy Mason Mk 1 - I hadn't known there was one!
Do the stats include cup games ?
I am not 100% sure but I know he was included in a number of first team squads that year, hence the picture in the first team squad I guess ;-)
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Yeah, it includes cup matches. Ring, Vessey and Stille were our fringe players in 1981/82 who did make appearances.
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I would suspect that both Ramsey and Geard were also part of those fringe players ?
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According to Tim Carder's book, Glen Geard was released in March 1981 by Mullery and was given a second chance under Jimmy Melia in 1983 (although he made no appearances under Melia).
After playing the last few games in the 1980-81 season, Chris Ramsey did not figure at all in the first team under Mike Bailey's reign. However, he was someone else given another chance by Melia, and, as you know, became a first-team regular.
Geard came back very briefly under Melia without any contract, more a trial period, Ramsey became a close colleague of Giles Stille at the time of Bailey and worked his way into the first team squad under Melia, but was always contracted by the club.
I would conclude that Ramsey was a young player that worked hard to progress at the club and finally rewarded by Melia, rather than given another chance.