Official Running Thread

[dazzer6666]

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Another way of looking at the lighter shoe over a marathon distance is 26.2 miles with minimum support could lead to injury. Over 5k this would not be an issue. A general rule I have read is that skinny, small frame runners can get away with light shoes in a marathon as there is less load going onto the shoe support. Also the lighter race shoes have less total mileage in them so should be just worn in and relatively new for a marathon.

I would happily do a half in ASIC gels and for the last 2 marathons have been set to wear them only to change my mind on the morning. Probably due to pre race niggles putting me off. Next year could be the time.

Very individual thing......also need to take into account gait and cadence. If you're heavier and tend to 'lollop' along with big thumping strides and a 150 cadence, that's very different from a 'pitter patter' cadence of say 180-190 with your centre of gravity ahead of your knees and feet (chi-running/POSE style). Difference in load is enormous.

Anyway, all that said strained a ****ing calf muscle on a 12 mile tempo run yesterday, so potentially out for a bit including Velo looking unlikely. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

 

[dazzer6666]

The Mizuno aren't THAT light, they just made me realise how heavy the Brooks Adrenaline are. So they're lighter but I'm going to try them on a long run on Sunday. I'm not disowning Brooks though and will keep an open mind when it's time for the next pair. One thing the guy at sweatshop said was that a slightly lighter shoe will actually help in a marathon because you are carrying slightly less weight on each stride and. well, marathons involve a lot of strides.

I do remember thinking at the time that was probably more for the pros to worry about than me.

Good luck getting back in to it and doing the 1000 miles. I need to work out my yearly mileage at some point. A spreadsheet will be involved as my records are across three apps and split almost equally between runs in miles and runs in kms

If you like the GTS, well worth looking at the Brooks Racer STs. Very similar fit (inc same size) and decent amount if cushioning, but much lighter. I am wearing them for most of my road running

 

[Guinness Boy]

If you like the GTS, well worth looking at the Brooks Racer STs. Very similar fit (inc same size) and decent amount if cushioning, but much lighter. I am wearing them for most of my road running

I think they were the pair I nearly bought instead of the Mizunos. Because I got them from Sweatshop I stlll have a couple of weeks to change my mind and trade them.

First ,long-ish run in the Mizunos today - 10 miles paced to an hour and a half - and they were really comfy during. I'm just waiting to see how I recover and if I get any foot, ankle or knee pain back. Took a couple of High 5 gels on the way round. Much easier to get down than the ShotBloks so you were probably right on Strava but I need to take them on a much longer run now to make sure my stomach can handle them in larger doses.

 

[El Presidente]

Any recommendations on Garmin watches? My Forerunner 110 which is basic but does the job is due an upgrade, especially as 3 out of my last 4 runs the GPS has had me starting in some pretty dangerous spots, such as Lake Michigan, On the Brighton to London rail track and earlier this morning the English Channel. I'm not fussed about heart rate etc... Just looking for a reliable watch which gives me distance, time, splits etc....

I have a Garmin 620, love it. Picks up signal very quickly, lots of stats, and there's been a recent price cut.

 

[El Presidente]

Don't under any circumstances use the Adidas Response Boost. Flew out to Cyprus Wednesday, and realised I'd left my Asics Nimbus 17 behind. Decided to bite the bullet and buy a new pair of shoes, but limited choice here. Wore the Response Boost twice, and it felt as if I was running through treacle. Have just put them in a clothes recycling bin as won't ever wear them again.

 

[knocky1]

Very individual thing......also need to take into account gait and cadence. If you're heavier and tend to 'lollop' along with big thumping strides and a 150 cadence, that's very different from a 'pitter patter' cadence of say 180-190 with your centre of gravity ahead of your knees and feet (chi-running/POSE style). Difference in load is enormous.

Anyway, all that said strained a ****ing calf muscle on a 12 mile tempo run yesterday, so potentially out for a bit including Velo looking unlikely. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

Sorry about the ****ing calf muscle. Hope you recover quickly.
I was talking to [MENTION=24635]Greg Bobkin[/MENTION] yesterday about cadence and pitter patter steps about how hard it is to judge the speed of runners around you from running style. I will check my cadence later today.

I'm still 10% down on Parkrun since the summer. The Brooks 10k will be my punishment for being lax.

 

[penny's harmonica]

Did a very challenging Beckley 10k this morning in 49. Really picturesque course shrouded in heavy fog throughout with some long climbs for good measure. Happy with my time as still suffering from various knee problems which hills seem to inflame. Running the poppy half on Saturday which I understand is like a duck pond so will be interesting to see how the knees react.

I have a forerunner 225 and it's a great bit of kit.

 

[downham seagull]

Ran the Frosbite league in Cambridgeshire today. 5 miles in 31.10 paced in 6.11. An inter club event with over 500 club runners I finished in 67th but more importantly 3rd scorer out of 10 for my club. Lovely atmosphere.

 

[downham seagull]

Did a very challenging Beckley 10k this morning in 49. Really picturesque course shrouded in heavy fog throughout with some long climbs for good measure. Happy with my time as still suffering from various knee problems which hills seem to inflame. Running the poppy half on Saturday which I understand is like a duck pond so will be interesting to see how the knees react.

I have a forerunner 225 and it's a great bit of kit.

super run bud well done and good luck for next week

 

[Mr Banana]

Ran the Frosbite league in Cambridgeshire today. 5 miles in 31.10 paced in 6.11. An inter club event with over 500 club runners I finished in 67th but more importantly 3rd scorer out of 10 for my club. Lovely atmosphere.

Well done sir

 

[dazzer6666]

Did a very challenging Beckley 10k this morning in 49. Really picturesque course shrouded in heavy fog throughout with some long climbs for good measure. Happy with my time as still suffering from various knee problems which hills seem to inflame. Running the poppy half on Saturday which I understand is like a duck pond so will be interesting to see how the knees react.

I have a forerunner 225 and it's a great bit of kit.

Good effort....

 

[dazzer6666]

Ran the Frosbite league in Cambridgeshire today. 5 miles in 31.10 paced in 6.11. An inter club event with over 500 club runners I finished in 67th but more importantly 3rd scorer out of 10 for my club. Lovely atmosphere.

Blimey, speedy !

 

[Simgull]

Park run Saturday was 21:25 - felt crap after 3km and struggled through the last two - too much tapas and wine in Valencia last week. More notable though was my mother in law completed her first park run at the age of 72 - sterling effort and just shows how contagious this park run malarkey is! Apologies for not hanging around for a chat afterwards but had to get some photos of the newest family parkrun member.

This morning ventured up to the Downs for 10 miles in the fog - actually lost my bearings twice and had to search for the path again - its wilder than you think up there in the Sussex Outback!

 

[big nuts]

Was a bit Phil Collins out there late morning! Went out at 10:30 this morning still cool and foggy, within a mile the sun burnt the mist away and it was pretty hot.

The hot weather meant I cut my 10 mile out to a see how far I can run in an hour. Managed 8.79 miles but I'm going to look to get up to 9 by the end of the month.

1 6:53.1 1.00 6:53
2 6:55.8 1.00 6:56
3 7:01.9 1.00 7:02
4 6:57.4 1.00 6:57
5 6:57.8 1.00 6:58
6 6:48.7 1.00 6:49
7 6:43.9 1.00 6:44
8 6:40.7 1.00 6:41
9 5:03.4 0.79 6:22
1:00:02 8.79 miles avr pace 6:50

 

[Guinness Boy]

Ran the Frosbite league in Cambridgeshire today. 5 miles in 31.10 paced in 6.11. An inter club event with over 500 club runners I finished in 67th but more importantly 3rd scorer out of 10 for my club. Lovely atmosphere.

 

[knocky1]

Park run Saturday was 21:25 - felt crap after 3km and struggled through the last two - too much tapas and wine in Valencia last week. More notable though was my mother in law completed her first park run at the age of 72 - sterling effort and just shows how contagious this park run malarkey is! Apologies for not hanging around for a chat afterwards but had to get some photos of the newest family parkrun member.

This morning ventured up to the Downs for 10 miles in the fog - actually lost my bearings twice and had to search for the path again - its wilder than you think up there in the Sussex Outback!

Many do Parkrun at 72 or older. Doing your first one at 72 is brilliant. Excellent.

I got lost twice in darkest Chailey on Thursday. Once in the woods and once on the Common. Must be the witches.

4 weeks of alcohol for me to get into shape for the Mince Pie run.....

 

[Guinness Boy]

Does anyone get check ups - MOTs for the body if you will - from Sports Injury places or a physio? I'm definitely taking more strain on my right side than my left. On a long run day I will stretch three times, before and straight after the run and again in the evening. Despite that, last night, I had pain in every part of my right leg. Ball of foot, heel, ankle, knee and IT band. Left was fine, as if I hadn't even been out. All to the point where I stretched more and took painkillers. This morning all fine again.

Is this normal (I'm doing a minimum of 30k a week and no pain after shorter runs) or is it a good idea to get my gait and stretching looked at and a check over for any niggles before they become serious? [MENTION=15605]knocky1[/MENTION] is this something your man does?

 

[knocky1]

Does anyone get check ups - MOTs for the body if you will - from Sports Injury places or a physio? I'm definitely taking more strain on my right side than my left. On a long run day I will stretch three times, before and straight after the run and again in the evening. Despite that, last night, I had pain in every part of my right leg. Ball of foot, heel, ankle, knee and IT band. Left was fine, as if I hadn't even been out. All to the point where I stretched more and took painkillers. This morning all fine again.

Is this normal (I'm doing a minimum of 30k a week and no pain after shorter runs) or is it a good idea to get my gait and stretching looked at and a check over for any niggles before they become serious? [MENTION=15605]knocky1[/MENTION] is this something your man does?

He doesn't specifically analyse running gait but would notice any imbalance when looking at the body prior to treatment. After treatment he gives the necessary stretch and ensures you do it correctly. £40 but usually fixed in one session. He is at Coral's gym by the dog track. Sports injury man or Jesus to many. Ask him to check out anything you are worried about. Tell him he fixed your knee for free with the thigh stretch last summer!

The running you have done this year has been incredible and you are in a great position for starting the Marathon plan at the end of the year. Good running.

After running Parkrun and a 5 miler yesterday I couldn't walk downstairs this morning but feel I am getting there. Wherever that is.

 

[Curious Orange]

I've entered the Jigsaw Run 10k at Dunsfold Aerodrome at the end of this month, so I've been concentrating on trying to maintain a fast pace for that distance, and include as many uphill bits as I can.

Anyway yesterday I went for my regular 8.63 mile long route and tried to keep going at tempo for the first 10k before backing down for the journey home. It turns out that the 10k point is at the summit of a fairly long steep hill, which meant I was working quite hard to get to there in about 42 minutes, but then even with me backing right off I managed to shave over two minutes off of my best time for the route finishing in 1:00:02. I'm feeling pretty pleased about that.

MI	Dur/Pace	Speed
1	0:06:56	8.66
2	0:06:34	9.18
3	0:06:56	8.66
4	0:06:36	9.12
5	0:06:49	8.83
6	0:06:59	8.61
7	0:07:22	8.16
8	0:07:33	7.96
9	0:04:15	8.81

 

[dazzer6666]

Many do Parkrun at 72 or older. Doing your first one at 72 is brilliant. Excellent.

I got lost twice in darkest Chailey on Thursday. Once in the woods and once on the Common. Must be the witches.

4 weeks of alcohol for me to get into shape for the Mince Pie run.....

Sounds AWESOME, but I do this all the time and it doesn't work for me