Official Running Thread

[Garry Nelson's teacher]

Have these 'git' designations (old, very old) been formally agreed on here? If so, what's next?

On balance, better not to think too much about what comes next...............

But the official designations are thus

1. 60-64 - old git

2. 65-69 - very old git

3. 70-74 - extremely old git

4. 75-80 - extraordinarily old git

 

[timbha]

On balance, better not to think too much about what comes next...............

But the official designations are thus

1. 60-64 - old git

2. 65-69 - very old git

3. 70-74 - extremely old git

4. 75-80 - extraordinarily old git

So are under 60s just gits?

 

[Dorset Seagull]

Just restarted couch to 5k after my previous attempt failed with an achillies injury. This thread has prompted me to register with parkrun so I can undertake my first one in a few weeks time. Its a bit frustrating to have been a half decent runner in my youth (Unbeaten at Hove Grammar regular cross country runs) and finding at 65 the body struggles with the basics

 

[CoolTed]

On balance, better not to think too much about what comes next...............

But the official designations are thus

1. 60-64 - old git

2. 65-69 - very old git

3. 70-74 - extremely old git

4. 75-80 - extraordinarily old git

That's good, we're covered for a good few years. And we still have words like incredibly, phenomenally, disgustingly, etc. in reserve for later.

 

[CoolTed]

So are under 60s just gits?

Not sure. I thought that the younger you are, the more insulting the word git became. So I looked it up. I think all the definitions mentioned in the first paragraph have probably always applied to me.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Git_(slang)

 

[timbha]

Not sure. I thought that the younger you are, the more insulting the word git became. So I looked it up. I think all the definitions mentioned in the first paragraph have probably always applied to me.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Git_(slang)

Scouse git was a term regularly used by Alf Garnett

 

[knocky1]

Just restarted couch to 5k after my previous attempt failed with an achillies injury. This thread has prompted me to register with parkrun so I can undertake my first one in a few weeks time. Its a bit frustrating to have been a half decent runner in my youth (Unbeaten at Hove Grammar regular cross country runs) and finding at 65 the body struggles with the basics

Greetings. You were 3 years above me and 3 years below Paul Gasson at HCGS.
Good luck with Parkrun.

 

[dazzer6666]

To quote Edmund Blackadder when told he was a ‘nothing but a lapdog to a slip of a girl’ (by Redbeard Rum)

‘better a lapdog to a slip of a girl than a………..git’.

 

[knocky1]

This old git was very upset after Parkrun today. Set a target of 23:11 to finally get back to the 70%+ AG. Running 36 seconds quicker than last week's 23:57 seemed well within reach.

Got confused at the start and had 22:11 in my head. Set off at the correct pace (without the cheating shoes saving them) and it hit me hard halfway managed to keep going to the end but couldn't finish fast and failed by 24 seconds in 22:35. Very unhappy.

The old git got home and found the target was 23:11 and I had smashed the target by 36 seconds and an AG 71.8%. 82 seconds faster than last week rather than the 22 seconds I thought.

 

[Garry Nelson's teacher]

This old git was very upset after Parkrun today. Set a target of 23:11 to finally get back to the 70%+ AG. Running 36 seconds quicker than last week's 23:57 seemed well within reach.

Got confused at the start and had 22:11 in my head. Set off at the correct pace (without the cheating shoes saving them) and it hit me hard halfway managed to keep going to the end but couldn't finish fast and failed by 24 seconds in 22:35. Very unhappy.

The old git got home and found the target was 23:11 and I had smashed the target by 36 seconds and an AG 71.8%. 82 seconds faster than last week rather than the 22 seconds I thought.

That word, 'confused' is beginning to go with the territory (see below). But that's a big chunk out of last week's time.

20.38 for me at Worthing and went home very cross thinking it was identical to last week and that surely I could have shaved a second off somewhere, surely.
Gt home and found it was 2 seconds faster than last week and therefore and (sorry to trouble you for the updated league table) an SB and (therefore) a PB for age grade @ 82.79% (only good enough for 6th best today at speedy Worthing).

My pal in his 70s reported a huge PB of around 25 minutes at Preston Park only to realise that he was one lap short! Of course he didn't register his time. Easily done, I guess. Confusion rules!

 

[Bozza]

I saw a local runner I converse with a bit on Instagram was doing the David Goggins' 4*4*48 challenge - 4 miles, every 4 hours for 48 hours - to "celebrate" his 40th birthday. He'd posted his schedule and who he was with on each run. He had noone to run with him at mdnight last night, so I popped down to keep him company on what was his fourth run as he started at midday yesterday.

This represented two firsts for me:

1. Travelling somewhere to run. I always run from my front door, back to my front door (even if my front door is a hotel or AirBnB etc away from home).
2. Running with someone else. I've never run with anyone else. Casual chatty runs are quite fun, even at midnight, who knew?!?

I'm going to pop down and run with him another once or twice this weekend - it feels a relativelu easy way to get some miles in - at least for mei if not for him!

 

[knocky1]

That word, 'confused' is beginning to go with the territory (see below). But that's a big chunk out of last week's time.

20.38 for me at Worthing and went home very cross thinking it was identical to last week and that surely I could have shaved a second off somewhere, surely.
Gt home and found it was 2 seconds faster than last week and therefore and (sorry to trouble you for the updated league table) an SB and (therefore) a PB for age grade @ 82.79% (only good enough for 6th best today at speedy Worthing).

My pal in his 70s reported a huge PB of around 25 minutes at Preston Park only to realise that he was one lap short! Of course he didn't register his time. Easily done, I guess. Confusion rules!

Great running GNT. I know I'll never get that AG at 5K, unless I give the one lap by confusion a go. Hopefully I can get near it in the summer at 1500m or a mile.

4 weeks in the NSC Tourbus around Galicia for me coming up. Be good to step back from Parkrun and work on easy mileage with interval training.

 

[knocky1]

Busy tomorrow so early table for GNT chipping away at a higher AG percentage and myself moving up a few places.

NAME	5K SB	5K PB	SB AG	10K	10M	HM	M
GNT	20:38	20:20	82.79%	40:31	1:19:12	1:31:18	4:19:55
Artie Fufkin	18:12	16:55	77.29%	35:47		1:15:58	2:42:07
CoolTed		17:18	75.27%	36:10	59:55	1:20:39	3:01:52
Simgull	20:51	20:21	73.7%	42:45	1:11:46	1:38:14	3:44:28
St Leonard's	18:21	18:21	73.30%			1:34:35
Knocky	22:39	17:45	72.04%	39:52		1:34:00	3:50:49
Blue&WhiteSea	18:49	17:05	72.01%	36:53	1:00:09	1:22:39
Bad Ash	19:30	19:18	70.51%	43:27		1:35:00	3:39:23
Soistes	24:04	21:51	70.36%	46:14		1:43:12	3:51:33
Curious Orange	21:01	18:36	67.96%	37:59		1:24:23.9	3:29:23
Greg Bobkin	22:52	20:54	61.08%	46:57	1:18:01	1:39:00	3:57:37
Notters	22:13	22:13	60.54%
Big Nuts		18:00		38:10	1:05:38	1:24:23	3:15:59
Badger		18:05		37:41		1:22:57	2:56:33
HerrTubthumper		19:03				1:36:10	3:05:34
Ben Eltons Bro		20:33		43:03		1:32:31	3:28:03
Anchorman		21:34		46.25		1:41:38	3:55:00
Bob!		22:41		45.39	1:16:42	1:44:21	3:53:35
Guinness Boy		22:04		46:50	01:21:06	1:45.30	4:00:06
snowflake			%	44:16	1:14:03
ForestRow						1:30:24
Ninja Elephant		17:37	%	37:33	1:07:57	1:27:43	3:10:49
Fitzcarraldo		19:33	%
Mr Banana		19:28	%
P's Harmonica		20:10	%	43:03		1:33:56	3:27:19
Left Back		21:02	%	45:47		1:42:01
Mr Blobby		23:05	%	48:54	1:20:05	1:47:44	4:13:22
CompleteBadger		19:37	%	41:25	1:17:11	1:30:58	3:29:52
chaileyjem		24:45	%	54:47		1:54:30
DFreemansPerm		28:46
Biffy Boy		19.55	%	41:31		1:33:17	3:18:39
Dazzer		19.57	%			1:36	3:43:
jimmygull		20:50		49:19			4:04:32
seagull-si		21.29	%			1:43:42
lostinlondon		22:00	%	44.13
Nathan		22:36	%	46:58		1:44:54	4:06:25
sjamesb3466		22:58	%	47:14	1:21:12	1:48:49
JoePrecious		19:44		46:19	1:24:08	1:38:13	4:04:30
Jonny Rainbow				41:43	1:12:40		3:24:38
Shippers						1:43:42

 

[London Irish]

Did 21 miles yesterday in 3 hours 23 mins. This is really the grim bit of marathon training, going to go up a mile now each of the next three Sundays

 

[London Irish]

A rare visit to Preston park. Impressed by the overall quality and size of the field (460 or so). 21.17 just scraped me over the 80% AG on a windy day and a course with that mean little hill. Quite pleased - but not as pleased, I think, as the VW55-59 who clocked a 94%!

I ran up that mean little hill 19 times yesterday, it's an old friend

 

[Dorset Seagull]

Need some advice. Doing the couch to 5k and now on week 6. It seems that whenever I have 2 runs to do with a rest I always really struggle on the first run but find the second, after the short walking phase, quite easy. When I say struggle I mean really gasping for air etc. My thoughts are that by the second run my body has settled down and so it is far easier.

Any advice on how I can make sure my body is able to deal with the first run as I do with the second. I always do a 10 minute muscle warm up and the 5 min fast walk before the first run so am following the correct preparation. Would it help to do maybe a couple of minutes of running during the initial 5 min walk and end with a 3 min walk instead so I am properly warmed up for the first run.

 

[Bozza]

Need some advice. Doing the couch to 5k and now on week 6. It seems that whenever I have 2 runs to do with a rest I always really struggle on the first run but find the second, after the short walking phase, quite easy. When I say struggle I mean really gasping for air etc. My thoughts are that by the second run my body has settled down and so it is far easier.

Any advice on how I can make sure my body is able to deal with the first run as I do with the second. I always do a 10 minute muscle warm up and the 5 min fast walk before the first run so am following the correct preparation. Would it help to do maybe a couple of minutes of running during the initial 5 min walk and end with a 3 min walk instead so I am properly warmed up for the first run.

I think it's down to your "settling down" theory.

I've run every day for over two years, I run 60+ miles a week and can comfortably run 15 miles at a time, but at the beginning of almost every run I feel briefly knackered to the point I'd probably give up if I didn't actually know I can run a reasonable distance.

So, for me at least, it's just a matter of carrying on running and my body sorts itself out quite quickly.

 

[dazzer6666]

Need some advice. Doing the couch to 5k and now on week 6. It seems that whenever I have 2 runs to do with a rest I always really struggle on the first run but find the second, after the short walking phase, quite easy. When I say struggle I mean really gasping for air etc. My thoughts are that by the second run my body has settled down and so it is far easier.

Any advice on how I can make sure my body is able to deal with the first run as I do with the second. I always do a 10 minute muscle warm up and the 5 min fast walk before the first run so am following the correct preparation. Would it help to do maybe a couple of minutes of running during the initial 5 min walk and end with a 3 min walk instead so I am properly warmed up for the first run.

Probably right with your thoughts…..the first run is a bit of a ‘shock’ to the system. If you use a heart rate monitor you’d probably notice the same - usually big spike in HR for the first few mins until you settle. Don’t worry about sticking too religiously to the programme - perhaps experiment a bit with, as you say, dropping some (slow) running into the fast walk - or ideally aim for a gradual increase in speed from the off…walk, faster walk, slow jog……

I suspect you’ll find it easier when you drop the walk interval between runs and do a single run and you’ll just get used to a few mins of regulating your breathing at the start. It’s perfectly ok to walk for a bit to allow it to settle too……sometimes even 20-30 seconds will be enough.

The first 5-10 mins of a run is my favourite bit - said no runner, ever

 

[timbha]

Good advice above. I’d also think about your breathing during that initial warm up. Take a few deep breaths, holding your breath for a few seconds to gradually expand your lungs.

As others have said; just run through it…… we all suffer for the first few minutes

 

[Curious Orange]

I was amused to see on Strava that I got an achievement for my participation in the Surrey Half Marathon over the weekend - my third fastest time of the 2020 route...





Lack of training showed!