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Bozza

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What do you struggle with? Aches and pains?

Some aches yes - shins and ankles. Beyond that, my legs are just too weary to give me as much as I know they can when fresh. I think I'm just over-doing it slightly, even on my modest distances and speeds, given I'm quite new to the game, again.

I have a yearning to get out though - I've had to stop myself going out for an evening run before when I've been out for a morning one.
 




knocky1

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Sounds like a good plan. I've enterred the Hastings Half, which i'll use as part of back to back long runs that weekend. Don't really know much about the course? Do you know if its flat or undulating? quite looking forward to it, kids are looking forward on going up and down the funicalr railway/lift thing!

First time but it is famous for a long, steep hill near the start. The funicular railway maybe the best option for me! The plan is to do a 5 mile 10" warm up and then run at 9" miles for the half marathon. I can then take full advantage of the drink stations before a pint or two of Harveys at lunch.
 


Guinness Boy

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You could always combine the Beer and running;

http://www.beermile.com/faq.beer

3 laps, 4 cans..

Christ. I'd be a Super Master were I to attempt that, which I won't. It's all too reminiscent of the expat football days in Taipei where, at our annual Gala tournament each Spring, you had to have a shot of overproof Polish vodka to get on the pitch and at least one beer between every 20 minute match, Spring in Taipei can see temperatures of around 26 - 28 degrees c. I was only a Master back then, mind, and a young one at that.
 


Guinness Boy

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I think we're plodding roughly parallel routes...

Strava shows my best 5k as being 27:52, my longest run has been 8 miles (in 1:18) and I've lost 22b (c10kg I think) over the time since I started running again.

Like you I'm enjoying it - possibly too much, illustrated by going out with no aim and ending up doing 8 miles at about 10:30 on a Sunday night. I can get round what are, for me, long routes but I struggle for days afterwards. Going out in the following 2-3 days is very hard.

I'm off to New York later and I'm keen to get at least one Central Park run in whilst there.

*fistbump*

You're slightly ahead. 5 miles is my longest though that's because I'm on a 10k training plan and that's the longest that's been on there so far (done in a shade over 50 mins and I suspect I could have gone quicker, though I also needed 2 days to recover). I'm already thinking about doing the Brighton Half next Feb. Not a full marathon though, Not quite THAT converted. Yet.
 


Herr Tubthumper

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Some aches yes - shins and ankles. Beyond that, my legs are just too weary to give me as much as I know they can when fresh. I think I'm just over-doing it slightly, even on my modest distances and speeds, given I'm quite new to the game, again.

I have a yearning to get out though - I've had to stop myself going out for an evening run before when I've been out for a morning one.

It doesn't sound like its chronic aches and pains. If it's mainly that you're legs are just a bit "heavy" it might be simple over-doing as you suggest. Are you doing lots of longer runs? If so maybe mix your distances and Follow your longest long run with a short one a day later. A short run of a few miles max the day after a long run also, apparently, aids recovery as it will get the blood pumping. I say apparently as it doesn't feel like it. But, from experience I feel it does work.

And yes, do get out in Central Park. Also, there is an excellent running track/boardwalk along the side of the Hudson. Just head to the Hudson from the West village, cross the road to the river side and you'll see it. The views are great.
 




Bozza

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*fistbump*

You're slightly ahead. 5 miles is my longest though that's because I'm on a 10k training plan and that's the longest that's been on there so far (done in a shade over 50 mins and I suspect I could have gone quicker, though I also needed 2 days to recover). I'm already thinking about doing the Brighton Half next Feb. Not a full marathon though, Not quite THAT converted. Yet.

A plan is probably wise. I'm not sure many plans would include cooking a late Sunday lunch, dozing on the sofa and then getting up and running for 8 miles when you've only done 3.8 before that.
 


Herr Tubthumper

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A plan is probably wise. I'm not sure many plans would include cooking a late Sunday lunch, dozing on the sofa and then getting up and running for 8 miles when you've only done 3.8 before that.

Ha. 3.8 to 8 is quite a leap....think we might have worked out why your legs feel heavy!
 


Greg Bobkin

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*fistbump*

You're slightly ahead. 5 miles is my longest though that's because I'm on a 10k training plan and that's the longest that's been on there so far (done in a shade over 50 mins and I suspect I could have gone quicker, though I also needed 2 days to recover). I'm already thinking about doing the Brighton Half next Feb. Not a full marathon though, Not quite THAT converted. Yet.
I ran Brighton HM last month for the first time in years, and REALLY enjoyed it. I think since the marathon started here, residents really 'get' running races and the crowd fire the half was amazing.

You'll love it.
 




coagulantwolf

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Anyone that wants to keep improving, I would seriously suggest something like yoga. I've always known I've had stupidly tight muscles, especially my hip flexors, but after 12 weeks of yoga I've improved my mobility and flexibility, helping both my running and weights in the gym.

Mobility is seriously under-trained.
 


Pickledegg

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Jul 13, 2012
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I think we're plodding roughly parallel routes...

Strava shows my best 5k as being 27:52, my longest run has been 8 miles (in 1:18) and I've lost 22b (c10kg I think) over the time since I started running again.

Like you I'm enjoying it - possibly too much, illustrated by going out with no aim and ending up doing 8 miles at about 10:30 on a Sunday night. I can get round what are, for me, long routes but I struggle for days afterwards. Going out in the following 2-3 days is very hard.

I'm off to New York later and I'm keen to get at least one Central Park run in whilst there.

What's your warm up and cool down routine? If any!!

Whether we like it or not both parts are vital if you want to move normally the following day or two!

You could do a lot worse than reducing your run by a mile and spending what time that would take stretching off before you start!
 


dazzer6666

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I think we're plodding roughly parallel routes...

Strava shows my best 5k as being 27:52, my longest run has been 8 miles (in 1:18) and I've lost 22b (c10kg I think) over the time since I started running again.

Like you I'm enjoying it - possibly too much, illustrated by going out with no aim and ending up doing 8 miles at about 10:30 on a Sunday night. I can get round what are, for me, long routes but I struggle for days afterwards. Going out in the following 2-3 days is very hard.

I'm off to New York later and I'm keen to get at least one Central Park run in whilst there.

Great stuff.....I started exactly like this (was 18 stone and puffed my way through about 5 mins first time out).

Central Park is brilliant for a run - it's almost exactly 10k for a full 'loop' and lovely scenery. Quite hilly around the North End too.
 




dazzer6666

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What's your warm up and cool down routine? If any!!

Whether we like it or not both parts are vital if you want to move normally the following day or two!

You could do a lot worse than reducing your run by a mile and spending what time that would take stretching off before you start!

Best thing by far is to do something the day after you do a longer run, just to flush the muscles out and get everything moving, and avoiding the dreaded DOMS (delayed onset muscle soreness). Doesn't have to be hardcore - even a brisk walk will help.
 


Bozza

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What's your warm up and cool down routine? If any!!

Whether we like it or not both parts are vital if you want to move normally the following day or two!

You could do a lot worse than reducing your run by a mile and spending what time that would take stretching off before you start!

Nothing. I change and I'm straight out and I cool down on the sofa on NSC. I've never done stretching and the like.
 


Bozza

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Great stuff.....I started exactly like this (was 18 stone and puffed my way through about 5 mins first time out).

Central Park is brilliant for a run - it's almost exactly 10k for a full 'loop' and lovely scenery. Quite hilly around the North End too.

I started off a long way below 18st although I was very possibly the heaviest I've ever been, helped by truly going for it over a 2 week Christmas and New Year break.

I know from previous forays into running how quicklu improvement happens with regard to both distance and speed.
 




Greg Bobkin

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May 22, 2012
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Nothing. I change and I'm straight out and I cool down on the sofa on NSC. I've never done stretching and the like.
Me neither. Up early doors and out. Get back and eat/drink pretty much straight away!
 


nwgull

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Jul 25, 2003
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What's your warm up and cool down routine? If any!!

Whether we like it or not both parts are vital if you want to move normally the following day or two!

You could do a lot worse than reducing your run by a mile and spending what time that would take stretching off before you start!
Not sure about how vital this is. I've never stretched before or after a run. Even when I used to compete in local athletics (100-400m), my warm up used to consist of having the heating on in the car on the way to the track.
 


Pembury

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Not sure about how vital this is. I've never stretched before or after a run. Even when I used to compete in local athletics (100-400m), my warm up used to consist of having the heating on in the car on the way to the track.

Same here. After a long run normally all I want to do is put my feet up and lounge around on the sofa, but the wife and kids have other ideas..
 


Greg Bobkin

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May 22, 2012
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18 miles this morning, with a parkrun in the mix. Got beaten by [MENTION=15605]knocky1[/MENTION] in the closing stages - couldn't even manage a proper sprint finish. Still under 25 mins, which wasn't bad considering I'd already done ten, I started from the back, and had already been UP the Droveway.

2:39 all in. Run back to SBS was tough.
 




Pickledegg

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Jul 13, 2012
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Nothing. I change and I'm straight out and I cool down on the sofa on NSC. I've never done stretching and the like.

Haha! Fair enough but I would say the older we get the harder it becomes! I never used to stretch before running but after serious calf injuries, it is now a must!

5 or 10 minute warmup, use the trusted foam roller without fail, almost guaranteed no aches the next day!
 


Pickledegg

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Not sure about how vital this is. I've never stretched before or after a run. Even when I used to compete in local athletics (100-400m), my warm up used to consist of having the heating on in the car on the way to the track.

For injury free running as we get older I would say pretty vital! But each to their own!

Could you compete at 100-400m now without stretching?
 


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