**** Official middle-aged man's Craft Beer thread ****

[beorhthelm]

Out of interest what's your thinking behind "good.....to grow?" What do you want it to be, and why?

we drink copious amounts of lager in the UK, far more than ale i believe, yet they are all foreign brands and all using foreign hops. one barrier to getting more onto ale is the different hop pallete between germanic lagers and English ales (and you know i have nothing against german lager) it would be good to go into a ordinary provincial pub and have Meantime on, that needs a brewer to grow.

 

[thedonkeycentrehalf]

Shame

http://www.theguardian.com/business...r-buys-meantime-to-enter-uk-craft-beer-market

What that article conveniently fails to mention is that Nick Miller - Chief Exec of Meantime - used to work for none other than SAB Miller before moving to Meantime.

If you were being cynical, you could suggest that this takeover has been brewing for some time....

 

[Marty___Mcfly]

I tried the Bison APA yesterday in The Wick- pretty good. I know their shop is on East Street- anyone know if they are they brewing there or off site?

 

[AmexRuislip]

This Rebellion brewery near Marlow is worth a visit, if any beer nerds are up that way.
A lot of fine ales to try

http://www.rebellionbeer.co.uk/

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

What that article conveniently fails to mention is that Nick Miller - Chief Exec of Meantime - used to work for none other than SAB Miller before moving to Meantime.

If you were being cynical, you could suggest that this takeover has been brewing for some time....

This probably explains his dismissive comments about craft then.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

we drink copious amounts of lager in the UK, far more than ale i believe, yet they are all foreign brands and all using foreign hops. one barrier to getting more onto ale is the different hop pallete between germanic lagers and English ales (and you know i have nothing against german lager) it would be good to go into a ordinary provincial pub and have Meantime on, that needs a brewer to grow.

I see your point. Personally I prefer the German model; Warsteiner is the biggest domestic supplier yet only has 3% of the market. Lots of choice and regional variety.

 

[AmexRuislip]

I see your point. Personally I prefer the German model; Warsteiner is the biggest domestic supplier yet only has 3% of the market. Lots of choice and regional variety.

Warsteiner a great beer when I was in Germany ala RAF, pomme frites mit mayo went down great as well on a Friday night after work

 

[Soulman]

Hobgoblin Gold is 99p a bottle in Morrisons.......just having a pint now.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

I was drinking this yesterday.

 

[spring hall convert]

I'm popping up to Canden for the afternoon/ evening on 12 June and am looking for some pubs to visit.

Brewdog Camden is on the list - are there others worth bothering with? The Southampton Arms sounds pretty good.

 

[Pistol Knight]

Enjoyed the 5th Annual CPFC Beer Festival, you do camping we do Beer

Heres a list of some of the beer we were treated to this year


The Cronx Entire 5.2% 2 Porter/Stout UK
The Cronx Kotchin 3.9% 2 Pale/Blonde UK
The Cronx Kotchin (Nelson Sauvin Summer Dry Hop) 3.9% 2 Pale/Blonde UK
The Cronx Mad Ass Entire 5.2% 2 Porter/Stout UK
The Cronx Single Hop IPA 6.0% 2 Pale/Blonde UK
The Cronx Spring Ale 4.0% 2 Pale/Blonde UK
The Cronx Standard 3.8% 2 Bitter UK
8Sail Millwright Mild 3.5% 1 Mild UK
Abbeydale Boadicea 4.0% 1 Pale/Blonde UK
Amber Ales Chocolate Orange Stout 4.0% 1 Porter/Stout UK
Anarchy Citra Star 4.1% 1 Pale/Blonde UK
Atom Dark Matter 4.5% 1 Porter/Stout UK
Atom Schrodingers Cat 3.5% 1 Bitter UK
Axholme Rhuby 4.4% 1 Bitter UK
Bad Seed Pilot Pale Ale 4.5% 1 Pale/Blonde UK
Bad Seed Summer Ale 3.8% 1 Pale/Blonde UK
Bath Ales Barnsey 4.5% 1 Bitter UK
Bath Ales Spa 3.7% 1 Pale/Blonde UK
Abrahalls Lily the Pink 4.5% 1 Medium UK
Abrahalls Slack Alice 4.6% 2 Medium UK
Apple County Cider Naughty Horsey Medium 6.5% 2 Medium UK
Barbourne Hopped Cider 4.0% 2 Dry UK
Barbourne Strawberry Medium Sweet 4.0% 2 Medium UK
Barbourne Sweet Kernel 4.5% 1 Sweet UK
Beartown Bear Ass 4.0% 1 Bitter UK
Beartown Ginger Bear 4.0% 1 Bitter UK
Belleville Northcote Blonde 4.2% 1 Pale/Blonde UK
Belleville Spring Break 4.4% 1 Pale/Blonde UK
Belleville Thyme Square Saison 4.5% 1 Pale/Blonde UK
Black Hole Red Dwarf 4.2% 1 Bitter UK
Black Iris Bleeding Heart 4.5% 1 Rye UK
Blue Monkey BG Sips 4.0% 1 Pale/Blonde UK
Blue Monkey Sanctuary 4.1% 1 Bitter UK
Brick Blenheim Black IPA 5.1% 1 Black IPA UK
Brick Kinsale Bitter 4.0% 1 Bitter UK
Brick Sir Thomas Gardyner 3.8% 1 Pale/Blonde UK
Bristol Beer Factory Nova 3.8% 1 Pale/Blonde UK
Bristol Beer Factory Sunrise 4.4% 1 Pale/Blonde UK
Brixton Atlantic APA 5.4% 1 Pale/Blonde UK
Brixton Reliance Pale Ale 4.2% 1 Pale/Blonde UK
Brixton Windrush Stout 5.0% 1 Porter/Stout UK
Brockley Golden 3.8% 1 Pale/Blonde UK
Brockley Pale Ale 4.1% 1 Pale/Blonde UK
Brockley Red Ale 4.8% 1 Red UK
Brown Cow Thriller in Vanilla 5.1% 1 Porter/Stout UK
Buffy's Norwegian Blue 4.9% 1 Bitter UK
Bushy's Manx Bitter 3.8% 1 Bitter UK
By The Horns Ol' Blue Eyes 4.2% 1 Pale/Blonde UK
By The Horns Stiff Upper Lip 3.8% 1 Pale/Blonde UK
Caledonian Flying Scotsman 4.0% 1 Bitter UK
Castle Rock Harvest Pale 3.8% 1 Pale/Blonde UK
Castle Rock Sherriff's Tipple 3.4% 1 Bitter UK
Castles King's Reserve 4.3% 1 Bitter UK
Castles White Knight 4.1% 1 Pale/Blonde UK
Charnwood Blossom 4.1% 1 Pale/Blonde UK
Clarkshaws Phoenix Rising 4.0% 1 Bitter UK
Clarkshaws Strange Brew 4.0% 1 Pale/Blonde UK
Clarkshaws Wheat 4.0% 1 Pale/Blonde UK
Crouch Vale Amarillo 5.0% 1 Pale/Blonde UK
Crouch Vale Yakima Gold 4.2% 1 Pale/Blonde UK
Darkstar Hophead 3.8% 1 Pale/Blonde UK
Darkstar Revelation 5.7% 1 Pale/Blonde UK
Darkstar Summer Meltdown 4.8% 1 Pale/Blonde UK
Darkstar Sunburst 4.8% 1 Pale/Blonde UK
Darkstar Victorian Ruby Mild 6.0% 1 Mild UK
Derventio Gold 4.2% 1 Pale/Blonde UK
Derverell Tall Hot Blonde 4.0% 1 Pale/Blonde UK
Downlands Bramber 4.5% 1 Pale/Blonde UK
Downlands First Gold IPA 5.6% 1 Pale/Blonde UK
Downlands Devils Dyke Salted Caramel 5.0% 1 Porter/Stout UK
Downlands Root Thirteen 3.6% 1 Pale/Blonde UK
Downton Kazbek Zest 4.1% 1 Pale/Blonde UK
East London Jamboree 4.8% 1 Pale/Blonde UK
East London Orchid 3.6% 1 Mild UK
East London Pale 4.0% 1 Pale/Blonde UK
Fat Cat Bitter 3.8% 1 Bitter UK
Five Points Five Points Pale 4.4% 1 Pale/Blonde UK
Five Points Hook Island Red 6.0% 1 Red UK
Franklins English Garden 3.8% 1 Bitter UK
Fyne Ales Jarl 3.8% 1 Pale/Blonde UK
Fyne Ales Maverick 4.2% 1 Bitter UK
Gipsy Hill Beatnik 3.8% 1 Pale/Blonde UK
Gipsy Hill Yuzu 5.2% 1 Pale/Blonde UK
Goldmark Hop Idol 3.7% 1 Pale/Blonde UK
Goose Eye Chinook Blonde 4.2% 1 Pale/Blonde UK
Green Jack Orange Wheat Beer 4.2% 1 Pale/Blonde UK
Hackney American Pale Ale 4.5% 1 Pale/Blonde UK
Hackney Best Bitter 4.4% 1 Bitter UK
Hackney Golden Ale 4.0% 1 Pale/Blonde UK
Hackney Red Ale 5.5% 1 Red UK
Harviestoun Bitter & Twisted 3.8% 1 Pale/Blonde UK
Harviestoun Schiehallion 4.8% 1 Lager UK
Hop Studio Gold 4.5% 1 Pale/Blonde UK
Hop Studio XP 4.0% 1 Pale/Blonde UK
Hopback Citra 4.0% 1 Pale/Blonde UK
Hopback Crop Circle 4.2% 1 Pale/Blonde UK
Hopback Summer Lightning 5.0% 1 Pale/Blonde UK
Isle of Skye Hebridean Gold 4.3% 1 Bitter UK
Isle of Skye Red Cuillin 4.2% 1 Bitter UK
Kelburn Goldihops 3.8% 1 Pale/Blonde UK
Kelham Island Easy Rider 4.3% 1 Pale/Blonde UK
Kelham Island Pale Rider 5.2% 1 Pale/Blonde UK
Late Knights Crack of Dawn 3.9% 1 Pale/Blonde UK
Late Knights Great Exhibition 4.1% 1 Pale/Blonde UK
Late Knights Morning Glory 4.4% 1 Bitter UK
Lincoln Imperial Ale 3.8% 1 Bitter UK
London Beer Factory London Session 3.8% 1 Bitter UK
London Beer Factory Paxton Pale 5.0% 1 Pale/Blonde UK
London Beer Factory Summer Pale 3.8% 1 Pale/Blonde UK
Magic Rock High Wire 5.5% 2 Pale/Blonde UK
Marble Ginger Marble 4.5% 1 Bitter UK
Muirhouse Summit Hoppy 4.0% 1 Pale/Blonde UK
Oakham Citra 4.2% 2 Pale/Blonde UK
Oakham J.H.B 3.8% 1 Pale/Blonde UK
Oakham Scarlet Macaw 4.4% 1 Pale/Blonde UK
Oldershaws Blonde Volupta 5.0% 1 Pale/Blonde UK
Oldershaws Grantham Dark 3.6% 1 Mild UK
Outstanding Blonde 4.5% 1 Pale/Blonde UK
Outstanding Red 4.4% 1 Bitter UK
Purity Pure Gold 3.8% 1 Pale/Blonde UK
Purity UBU 4.5% 1 Bitter UK
Redemption Trinity 3.0% 2 Pale/Blonde UK
Redemption Urban Dusk 4.6% 1 Bitter UK
Roosters Maypole 3.7% 1 Pale/Blonde UK
Roosters Yankee 4.3% 1 Pale/Blonde UK
Rudgate Dark Cherry Mild 3.7% 1 Mild UK
Saltaire Elderflower Blonde 4.0% 1 Pale/Blonde UK
Saltaire Raspberry Blonde 4.0% 1 Pale/Blonde UK
Bottle Kicking Full Back 4.5% 1 Dry UK
Broadoak Original Vintage Cider 4.5% 2 Medium UK
Broadoak Pheasent Plucker 4.5% 2 Medium UK
Burnards Oaky Dokey 5.5% 2 Medium UK
Cockeyed Cider Cock Bird Sweet 5.0% 2 Sweet UK
Cornish Orchard Blush 4.0% 2 Fruit/Spiced UK
Cornish Orchard Strong Dry 7.2% 1 Dry UK
Fynburys Blackberry & Nettle 4.0% 1 Fruit/Spiced UK
Fynburys Mulled Spice 4.0% 1 Fruit/Spiced UK
Fynburys Rhubarb & Strawberry 4.0% 2 Fruit/Spiced UK
Gwynt y Ddraig Happy Daze 4.5% 1 Medium UK
Gwynt y Ddraig Two Trees Perry 4.5% 2 Perry UK
Healeys Cornish Farmhouse 4.5% 1 Medium UK
Sharp's Doom Bar 4.0% 4 UK
Sharp's Cornish Coaster 3.6% 2 UK
Sharp's Atlantic IPA 4.2% 2 UK
Sharp's Sharp's Rockport 2 UK
Sharp's Sharp's Own 2 UK
Sambrooks Archer Mild 3.6% 1 Mild UK
Sambrooks Pump House Pale 4.2% 1 Pale/Blonde UK
Sambrooks Wandle 3.8% 1 Bitter UK
Siren Undercurrent 4.5% 1 Pale/Blonde UK
Sonnet 43 Bourbon Milk Stout 4.3% 1 Porter/Stout UK
St Austell Proper Job 4.5% 1 Pale/Blonde UK
St Austell Spring Brew 4.3% 1 Pale/Blonde UK
Thornbridge Jaipur 5.9% 1 Pale/Blonde UK
Thornbridge Kipling 5.2% 1 Pale/Blonde UK
Thornbridge Wild Swan 3.5% 2 Pale/Blonde UK
Titanic Plum Porter 4.9% 1 Porter/Stout UK
Totally Brewed Papa Jangles Voodoo Stout 4.5% 1 Porter/Stout UK
Twickenham Naked Ladies 4.4% 1 Pale/Blonde UK
Twickenham Summer Sun 4.4% 1 Pale/Blonde UK
Twickenham Sundance 3.7% 1 Bitter UK
White Horse Village Idiot 4.1% 1 Pale/Blonde UK
Windsor & Eton Knight of the Garter 3.8% 1 Pale/Blonde UK
Windsor & Eton Kohinoor 4.5% 1 Pale/Blonde UK
Windsor & Eton Magna Carta 4.0% 1 Bitter UK
Beavertown Gamma Ray 5.4% 1 Pale/Blonde UK
Beavertown Smog Rocket 5.4% 1 Porter/Stout UK
Belgoo Saisonekke 4.4% 1 Belgian Belgium
Fruli Strawberry 4.1% 1 Fruit Belgium
Kona Firerock 5.9% 1 Pale/Blonde Hawaii
Lervig Galaxy IPA 6.5% 1 Pale/Blonde Norway
Lervig Happy Joe 4.7% 1 Bitter Norway
Lervig White Dog 4.7% 1 Wheat Norway
Palm Amber 5.4% 1 Belgian Belgium
Red Hook Longhammer IPA 6.2% 1 Pale/Blonde USA
Hogan's Hazy Daisy 3.9% 2 Medium UK
Lilleys Cider Barn Lemon & Lime 4.0% 2 Fruit/Spiced UK
Lilleys Cider Barn Merry Monkey Scrumpy 4.5% 2 Medium UK
Millwhites Apples and Pears 5.0% 2 Perry UK
Millwhites Hedgelayer 4.8% 1 Medium UK
Moles Black Rat Perry 6.0% 1 Perry UK
Mr Whiteheads Cirrus Minor 5.0% 2 Sweet UK
Mr Whiteheads Equinox 4.5% 1 Medium UK
Mr Whiteheads Pear Light 3.8% 1 Perry UK
Mr Whiteheads Plum 4.0% 2 Fruit/Spiced UK
Mr Whiteheads Strawberry 4.0% 2 Fruit/Spiced UK
Mr Whiteheads Toffee Apple 4.0% 1 Fruit/Spiced UK
Rodenbach Grand Cru 6.0% 1 Belgian Belgium
Siren Calypso 4.0% 1 Sour UK
The Cronx Galaxy IPA 6.0% 2 Pale/Blonde UK
Tiny Rebel Cwtch 4.6% 1 Bitter Wales
Tiny Rebel Full Nelson 4.8% 1 Pale/Blonde Wales
Tiny Rebel Urban IPA 5.5% 1 Pale/Blonde Wales
Troubadour Blond 6.5% 1 Belgian Belgium
Troubadour Special 5.7% 1 Belgian Belgium
Widmer Brothers Alchemy 5.8% 1 Pale/Blonde USA
Oakham Oaple 5.8% 1 Medium UK
Orchard Pig Explorer 4.5% 1 Medium UK
Orchard Pig Maverick Chilli & Ginger 4.0% 1 Fruit/Spiced UK
Scrumpy Wasp Hibernate 4.8% 1 Medium UK
Snail Bank Summer Fruits 4.0% 2 Fruit/Spiced UK
Snail Bank Tumbledown Apple Sweet 5.2% 2 Sweet UK
Thistly Cross Elderflower 4.0% 1 Fruit/Spiced UK
Thistly Cross Ginger 4.0% 1 Fruit/Spiced UK
Thistly Cross Strawberry 4.0% 1 Fruit/Spiced UK
Wolf Palace Ale 4.2% 6 UK
Wolf Granny Wouldn't Like It 4.8% 1 UK
Wolf Parkers Piece 5.0% 1 UK
Wolf Golden Jackal 3.7% 1 UK
Wolf Wolf Ale 3.9% 1 UK
Wolf Silver Fox 4.6% 1 UK
Wolf Woild Moild 4.8% 1 UK

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

I'm popping up to Canden for the afternoon/ evening on 12 June and am looking for some pubs to visit.

Brewdog Camden is on the list - are there others worth bothering with? The Southampton Arms sounds pretty good.

Obviously Brewdog Camden. The Southampton Arms is very good. Camden Town Brewery, the brewery has a tap room which is open regular pub hours http://www.camdentownbrewery.com. Not sure how you are getting to Camden but if you go via Euston and have time there is an excellent bar outside the front called The Euston Tap; has a fantastic range of craft.

 

[spring hall convert]

Obviously Brewdog Camden. The Southampton Arms is very good. Camden Town Brewery, the brewery has a tap room which is open regular pub hours http://www.camdentownbrewery.com. Not sure how you are getting to Camden but if you go via Euston and have time there is an excellent bar outside the front called The Euston Tap; has a fantastic range of craft.

I love the Euston Tap. Brilliant place. I hadn't considered the brewery, ta.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

I love the Euston Tap. Brilliant place. I hadn't considered the brewery, ta.

No problem. Camden Town Brewery is a bit off the beaten track but they have outside seating and it's a delightful place.

 

[Pogue Mahone]

No problem. Camden Town Brewery is a bit off the beaten track but they have outside seating and it's a delightful place.

Had a Black Friday on... Friday, at The Southover. And very nice it was, too.

 

[Ludensian Gull]

Not really a craft beer but as good a thread as any to show it. schofferhofer cloudy wheat beer. 5%

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Not really a craft beer but as good a thread as any to show it.

I know it well

 

[Questions]

Not really a craft beer but as good a thread as any to show it. schofferhofer cloudy wheat beer. 5%View attachment 65938

I drank a fair bit of that in Berlin. It's a good go to beer at the airport coming home.

 

[Ludensian Gull]

I drank a fair bit of that in Berlin. It's a good go to beer at the airport coming home.

Bought a few bottles in Aldi this week, very palatable.

 

[Cosmic Joker]

I'm popping up to Canden for the afternoon/ evening on 12 June and am looking for some pubs to visit.

Brewdog Camden is on the list - are there others worth bothering with? The Southampton Arms sounds pretty good.

Obviously Brewdog Camden. The Southampton Arms is very good. Camden Town Brewery, the brewery has a tap room which is open regular pub hours http://www.camdentownbrewery.com. Not sure how you are getting to Camden but if you go via Euston and have time there is an excellent bar outside the front called The Euston Tap; has a fantastic range of craft.

I can second the Southampton Arms. Excellent place, very hard to tell yourself it's time to leave, also inexpensive for north London. Tapping the Admiral is another fantastic backstreet pub in Camden and very close indeed to the Camden Town Brewery bar, so much so that it's rude not to visit both. I can vouch for their pies too, they are huge with loads of mash and very tasty.
http://www.tappingtheadmiral.co.uk/index.html