Nibble
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Obesity "not individuals' fault"
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To late, I'm one of those fat/fit people. Am about a stone overweight but play football Saturday and Sunday and can do a couple of 6k runs during the week without much hassle.
Curious Orange
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Well, perhaps we could send those people on swimming holidays off of the shores of Japan or Norway.
Rangdo
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No way. I couldn't possibly eat a 4thpack of biscuits tonight... Ok maybe just a couple....
Nibble
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The thing is you have got off your arse and done something which makes you feel, I would imagine a bit short changed when someone says it is not fat people's fault.
What people are misunderstanding about my point of view is that not all people have the same determination as you. The fat, lazy, cake munching bastards (which I agree they are) obviously do not and this has to be addressed because calling them fat, lazy, cake munching bastards obviously hasn't worked has it?
You looked well active last night, lying on the sofa eating choc chip marylands. Much the same as me.
London Calling
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agree.
Go to Denmark, Sweden, Spain etc these people are open to the same high calorie
diet, but fatties are rarity and top totty a speciality.
But now having kiddies, I am absolutely shocked how much added sugar and salt is added to absolutely everything, its nigh impossible to get fruit juices without ADDED suger.
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Nibble
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You looked well active last night, lying on the sofa eating choc chip marylands. Much the same as me.
Another fantastic put down from Les.
You looked well active last night, lying on the sofa eating choc chip marylands. Much the same as me.
Do you feed them to each other?
Southover Street Seagull
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You could argue though that the country's obsession with the car hasn't helped has it? From reading the article it wasn't just talking about over eating was it? They talked about the sedantry lifestyle that some people lead nowadays, this is in part due to the increased use of the car. This Government and others before it have never done enough to support public transport, this would possibly help. You can say that you would do possibly more walking if you were going places by train and bus than by car, as most people don't have bus stops or stations right on their doorstep!
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Nibble
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Depends which areas you go to in those countries. Although I agree on the whole they probably have less obesity related diseases. However it is a fact that a much healthier lifestyle is promoted by the governments in these countries and a lot more money is spent on sports facilities and promotions and more money is spent on healthier school meals and health education.
So really by citing these countries as examples you have proved my point.
Southover Street Seagull
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sten_super
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OK so not everyone has the same determination, but that doesn't mean that it's not their fault, does it? Them being told that the government/advertising agencies/whoever is in fact responsible, not them, is not going to help the situation.
It has to be a self-realisation thing. I am a fatty. But I got to a stage in Febraury where I got pissed off and annoyed at myself about my weight, so I went out and did some exercise. I now go running about 3/4 times a week. Having the realisation, and then deciding to do something about it, is the hardest part. You find once you start doing exercise you actually (shock horror) enjoy it. This is certainly not going to be aided if people are being told that it's not their responsibility or fault that they are how they are.
Now now, be fair, I am giving myself shit as well. If I remember rightly I also ate 4 slices of Pizza when you only had 3.
What were them other biscuits, they were amazing with a cup of bovine mammary secretion and chi?
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Presumably to actually prove this point, you are going to give some evidence to back up this 'fact' ?
I don't unless it's a week game.
Southover Street Seagull
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I like the cop out the Govenment are already saying:
"The most important thing is there has to be public consent and understanding of the issues you're trying to challenge," she said.
"A mandate for change will be difficult because it has to be preceded by an understanding of the dangers of obesity."
"The most important thing is there has to be public consent and understanding of the issues you're trying to challenge," she said.
"A mandate for change will be difficult because it has to be preceded by an understanding of the dangers of obesity."
Nibble
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Agreed that they should not be absolved of all responsibilty but we are talking about people who have become lazy through a lifetime of ignorance and they will never, never do anything about it on their own. Whatever people argue you cannot say this government does enough to promote health in this country. If they started to we may see improvement in a few generations time.
No-matter what you say calling people fat, lazy bastards will not help them. Somebody who overeats to the point where their life is a t risk has clearly got a dysfunction which I beleive food manafacturers target.
Southover Street Seagull
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Well you amaze me on your knowledge of Albion players from just seeing midweek games! You always seem to have some very good arguments about playing positions etc etc.
I only started playing again this year for the first time in 5 years so have been to a fair few games in the last couple of seasons. Plus I went to quite a few preseason.