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I would hereby like to associate myself with the sentiments left in the above post.Tubthumper said:
bhaexpress
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REDLAND said:Mac is the only computer in the world that can run all the major operating systems, including Mac OS X, Windows XP and Vista. With software like Parallels or VMware you can even run them side by side, I'd say that a little more versatile than your xbox with a keyboard
Must be why the vast majority of companies world wide use PCs of course.
bhaexpress
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Tubthumper said:
Hmm but the odd thing is that PCs tend to have a working 'S' key (and a spell checker).
Lady Bracknell
Handbag at Dawn
Eh?
I hadn't realised I was missing either of those items on this Mac.
I hadn't realised I was missing either of those items on this Mac.
bhaexpress said:
It depends what field of business you work in. The music world is dominated by Macs, as is design, as is architecture.
bhaexpress said:
..by the same token would you say The Sun is the best newspaper?
I can honestly say I do not know a single Mac user who regrets moving over to Apple.
adrian29uk
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REDLAND said:Mac is the only computer in the world that can run all the major operating systems, including Mac OS X, Windows XP and Vista. With software like Parallels or VMware you can even run them side by side, I'd say that a little more versatile than your xbox with a keyboard
So can Linux. But Linux puts OSX to shame when it comes to desktop effects.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKFYA86LxHc&mode=related&search=
bhaexpress
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Tubthumper said:
Really, I've met several, especially the ones who've had to have them repaired.
As somebody who has worked in IT for over thirty years I can tell you without fear of contradiction that most companies use PCs. There are a variety of reasons not just price. As it is last year I worked on a project where 93,000 personal computers were replaced by one customer, not one a Mac.
The amusing thing about Macs is that their owners are constantly going on about how much better they are, PC owners don't bother. There are a number of sites extolling the virtues of Macs over PCs but none for PCs, for the simple reason that PC users don't feel the need to justify themselves. Still it's a little bit of sport baiting Mac users
bhaexpress said:Really, I've met several, especially the ones who've had to have them repaired.
As somebody who has worked in IT for over thirty years I can tell you without fear of contradiction that most companies use PCs. There are a variety of reasons not just price. As it is last year I worked on a project where 93,000 personal computers were replaced by one customer, not one a Mac.
The amusing thing about Macs is that their owners are constantly going on about how much better they are, PC owners don't bother. There are a number of sites extolling the virtues of Macs over PCs but none for PCs, for the simple reason that PC users don't feel the need to justify themselves. Still it's a little bit of sport baiting Mac users
But generally, other than a few exceptions that have been pointed out above, Apple don't claim the Mac to be an office-based all-rounder. In fact you could work in marketing for Apple given you're line of debate is somewhat the same as theirs!
Maybe you've not seen the recent Mitchell and Webb campaign, the whole point of which is "Yes, you may use a PC in the office but that doesn't mean it's the best thing for you at home".
You can see them here:
http://www.apple.com/uk/getamac/ads/
I wanted a new home machine at the end of last year and decided, having heard so much about them, to get a Mac. Being honest I struggled with it until recently. But I've realised the reason I struggled with it was because I was trying to use it like a PC, using all those old crappy working methods and ways of doing things that one develops having used PCs since they existed.
I'm not bashing PCs at all. My little Dell work laptop is a wonderful little thing. But when I get home I no longer touch it unless I have to do some work - I get straight onto my Macbook. And now I let it look after me, rather than me try and use it like I'd use a PC we're getting on just fine.
bhaexpress
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Bozza said:
I don't dispute what you say one bit. I'm not rabidly anti Mac like some but I do think there's a few myths about them and the fact that so many Mac users go on about them doesn't help. You seldom hear a PC user raving about their machine because the PC is a standard and the only time people mention them is when they have a complaint.
The Mac does cost more and is a bugger to fix if it gets a problem, especially as there are not than many Mac Dealers about. A relative of mine in Canada got it into her head that getting a Mac would be better than her PC but discovered to her cost that she couldn't migrate her email addresses very easily (as I warned her). She live a bit out in the sticks and getting it fixed means a 120 mile round trip.
However, Mac's product placing is very good, I can't really remember an American TV program where if somebody was seen using a computer, especially a laptop, when it wasn't a Mac. They do tend to look nicer too.
Cian
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Tim said:
Run modern games?
Run a standard business enviroment database system?
Play DRM-infected Windows Media files?
Run on commodity hardware?
Support EVERY printer, scanner, webcam, graphics card, sound card on ther market?
Nope, Macs can't do any of that, sorry.
Cian
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its_neil said:With parallels / boot camp they can.
And the ability to play bugged media files isn't really an advantage, and of course macs can run MySQL!
You mean that by turning your expensive Mac in to a PC, they can? Right, OK.
I was implying more along the Access/StarOffice Base line, not MySQL. And OS X runs MySQL like a fat guy runs a marathon - extremely slowly.
nothing wrong with the performance on our machines at work.
believe me, i couldn't give a toss half the time what OS i was using, I got an MBP cause i felt like it - price wise it wasn't *that* much more expensive than a windows laptop for the spec i got.
believe me, i couldn't give a toss half the time what OS i was using, I got an MBP cause i felt like it - price wise it wasn't *that* much more expensive than a windows laptop for the spec i got.
Cian
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its_neil said:
Install Linux on said machines. Install MySQL on said Linux. Compare load averages under the same workload - they'll be significantly lower. OS X is the slowest platform, by far, to use MySQL on.
Tim
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MYOB said:
Why are you spouting this shit? Like your stuff above - it's completely irrelevant.
Largely people buy a Mac because they want a machine that, straight out of the box, is easy to use and does everything they need at home.
Home. Not in an office. Not some big lumpy SQL/RDB based work. Not some geeky f***ing around.
It may not suit you. You may have issues with any or all of Apple, Macs and OS X. Fine. Fight your little crusade. But it doesn't change the fact that for the home user wanting a slick, easy to use machine to handle home tasks - the web, photos and music - a Mac does the task wonderfully and without fuss.