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Springal

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Brighton 4 Spurs 2
Sheffield United 2 Brighton 5
Sheffield United 0 Brighton 5
Brighton 4 Palace 1

Don’t remember Potter putting games like that out in the middle of his bad patches.
Like I said, with the very odd exception (2 against worst team in the league, the other nearly 4 months ago)
 






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Lol here comes the LICKERS
We should of be not be losing to teams like Bumley.

Anyhow. I predicted a draw so I must be clever. That's all the affirmation I need.

In seriousness, we don't have enough men standing to be brilliant right now.

And we were never brilliant. As such.

No idea if RDZ has lost the plot or not. My guess is not. Football is a funny old game.

And....I didn't think a 1-1 at Bumley 'woe is me, gorblimey mister' needed a Special Thread :shrug:
 


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Our wage bill is 14th in the league

This could end up being our 3rd best league finish in our history

We’ve made record profit

Personally I think some of us have become more than a little bit entitled
Pre f***ing cisely.
 


Rookie

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We're struggling against some really shit teams this season. Those that don't believe we're in for a relegation fight next season need to wake up, quickly.
There’s overreactions and then there’s this
 




dazzer6666

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It was never a top 7 centre midfield, our fate was sealed by 1 September. Some wonderful PL football for a 6 games, then that CM found its level. Similarly called my many posters last July/Aug, a gaping hole at FB’s, just an injury to Veltman/Estupinan away from another major weakness. Hinshelwood got us out of jail for 2 or 3 months.

Lamptey and Milner (now) don’t have the attributes to be quality FB’s in a back 4.
One middling half-season does not derail a long term strategy :thumbsup:
 




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Careful, you'll be called a LICKER with posts like that
I’ve never been called one of them before so I’m kinda looking forward to it. My progression to Uber fan can’t be far away
 




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Neither do I, but there are still some numpties around clinging on to their absurd binary trope of 'De Zerbi good, Potter bad' (even today posting that anybody who didn't think Potter was poor 'must have a hard-on for GPot' (extra idiot points for the 'GPot' BTW)). Of course, the binary good/bad trope is rubbish - both managers, for instance, took us to the highest league positions ever in our entire history!
Potter undoubtedly changed the style of play and the mentality of the team when he took over after the last months of Chris Hughton, and he left us in an excellent position, with momentum going forward. It's getting to the point now where I'm starting to wonder whether the foundations Potter laid, and the flying start he gave us to the 2022-23 season, enabled RDZ to 'get away with it' longer than he would have done if he taken over directly from CH.
And no, I'm not going start spouting a 'Potter good de Zerbi bad' mantra - that would be just as rubbish as the Potter haters' (who are probably having their worst day for a long time!) one, and de Zerbi's done good things too - but it does feel as if the wheels on the bus are at least getting a bit wobbly. An interesting (in the very broadest sense of the word) time awaits us in the summer.
Don't worry about the odd wanka, mate. Most of us are relaxed and optimistic :thumbsup:
 


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There’s overreactions and then there’s this
There's people whose opinions I respect, and there are people I have defenestrated. :shrug:
:thumbsup:

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One middling half-season does not derail a long term strategy :thumbsup:

Should have better prospects in a PL only season.

That’s obvious. Although I’ve been emphatically told here that a handful of EL games had absolutely effect on PL results, fatigue or stress injuries.
 
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I’ve never been called one of them before so I’m kinda looking forward to it. My progression to Uber fan can’t be far away
Not called anyone a licker before and don't intend to now, not sure why he believes I'd do that.

People can say I'm overreacting, that's fine. I tend to. But, you see it every season. A team who has a strong second half to a season usually does very well the next. And the same for a team who has a poor second half to a season, they generally struggle the following season. Add in poor player morale, player sales and a poor attitude from the coach. It doesn't take long to work out how easy the wheels can fall off.
 


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We're struggling against some really shit teams this season. Those that don't believe we're in for a relegation fight next season need to wake up, quickly.
Hilarious.

RDZ ‘s tactics have been analysed and every club we play now play to stop Brighton instead of play their own football. The tactics are complex and not easily undone but they are based around us having players like Mitoma, March, Gilmour, Estupinian and, last season, Caicedo and Mac Allister. Players like that can add the game changing spark that RDZ’s tactics assume will be there as an addition. Bluntly, you couldn’t play our football with Colchester’s players.

We’ve not had March for most of the season, Mitoma has played one game all calendar year, Caicedo not replaced and Hinshlewood, who went from a stop gap to one of our best players is also out for the season.

A good coach will work with some of those let downs but to have all of them together for most of the season isn’t in anyone’s plans. Our tactics are based around players who can execute them.

All of those players should be back and refreshed in August and whether it’s RDZ or someone else, we’ll be playing possession based, attacking football. We ain’t gonna hire Dyche.

I don’t mind the OP here. I think @NorthstandRacoon has a point. I’m checked out mentally already and can’t wait for August. I said we were done after Roma and it’s still the case, but it’s because we don’t have the time to reset tactics to the available squad.

Your post, however, is bed wetting nonsense.
 






Exilegull

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We're struggling against some really shit teams this season. Those that don't believe we're in for a relegation fight next season need to wake up, quickly.
We might not be in for relegation battle next season a lot will happen before that. New manager and good transfer window and we should be good enough to safely avoid bottom 5. People here tho are acting like we never going to be in relegation battle again but they are wrong of course could be next year could be in 5 but at some point or another it will happen to us like nearly all teams
 


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Hilarious.

RDZ ‘s tactics have been analysed and every club we play now play to stop Brighton instead of play their own football. The tactics are complex and not easily undone but they are based around us having players like Mitoma, March, Gilmour, Estupinian and, last season, Caicedo and Mac Allister. Players like that can add the game changing spark that RDZ’s tactics assume will be there as an addition. Bluntly, you couldn’t play our football with Colchester’s players.

We’ve not had March for most of the season, Mitoma has played one game all calendar year, Caicedo not replaced and Hinshlewood, who went from a stop gap to one of our best players is also out for the season.

A good coach will work with some of those let downs but to have all of them together for most of the season isn’t in anyone’s plans. Our tactics are based around players who can execute them.

All of those players should be back and refreshed in August and whether it’s RDZ or someone else, we’ll be playing possession based, attacking football. We ain’t gonna hire Dyche.

I don’t mind the OP here. I think @NorthstandRacoon has a point. I’m checked out mentally already and can’t wait for August. I said we were done after Roma and it’s still the case, but it’s because we don’t have the time to reset tactics to the available squad.

Your post, however, is bed wetting nonsense.
The downside of being a moderator is you have to read all that shite.

On the plus side....you know where he lives :lolol:
 


sussex_guy2k2

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Neither do I, but there are still some numpties around clinging on to their absurd binary trope of 'De Zerbi good, Potter bad' (even today posting that anybody who didn't think Potter was poor 'must have a hard-on for GPot' (extra idiot points for the 'GPot' BTW)). Of course, the binary good/bad trope is rubbish - both managers, for instance, took us to the highest league positions ever in our entire history!
Potter undoubtedly changed the style of play and the mentality of the team when he took over after the last months of Chris Hughton, and he left us in an excellent position, with momentum going forward. It's getting to the point now where I'm starting to wonder whether the foundations Potter laid, and the flying start he gave us to the 2022-23 season, enabled RDZ to 'get away with it' longer than he would have done if he taken over directly from CH.
And no, I'm not going start spouting a 'Potter good de Zerbi bad' mantra - that would be just as rubbish as the Potter haters' (who are probably having their worst day for a long time!) one, and de Zerbi's done good things too - but it does feel as if the wheels on the bus are at least getting a bit wobbly. An interesting (in the very broadest sense of the word) time awaits us in the summer.
I said something very similar the other day.

I think the difference is that RDZs football requires more specific characteristics in some positions and it requires players to take more risks. Potter’s football was more controlled and less reliant on individual brilliant and pace in wide areas.

Injuries and increased game time have meant RDZ hasn’t had the characteristics he needs to succeed this year, and he’s struggled to adapt, which is the concern for me. But he’s young and I’m sure he’ll get there.
 


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Hilarious.

RDZ ‘s tactics have been analysed and every club we play now play to stop Brighton instead of play their own football. The tactics are complex and not easily undone but they are based around us having players like Mitoma, March, Gilmour, Estupinian and, last season, Caicedo and Mac Allister. Players like that can add the game changing spark that RDZ’s tactics assume will be there as an addition. Bluntly, you couldn’t play our football with Colchester’s players.

We’ve not had March for most of the season, Mitoma has played one game all calendar year, Caicedo not replaced and Hinshlewood, who went from a stop gap to one of our best players is also out for the season.

A good coach will work with some of those let downs but to have all of them together for most of the season isn’t in anyone’s plans. Our tactics are based around players who can execute them.

All of those players should be back and refreshed in August and whether it’s RDZ or someone else, we’ll be playing possession based, attacking football. We ain’t gonna hire Dyche.

I don’t mind the OP here. I think @NorthstandRacoon has a point. I’m checked out mentally already and can’t wait for August. I said we were done after Roma and it’s still the case, but it’s because we don’t have the time to reset tactics to the available squad.

Your post, however, is bed wetting nonsense.
I was wondering if it would be OK if I catch some of the home games down my mate's house on the telly rather than, you know....4 hours driving....and that...

OK, I'll get my 'badfan' coat :facepalm:

:lolol:
 




Our wage bill is 14th in the league

This could end up being our 3rd best league finish in our history

We’ve made record profit

Personally I think some of us have become more than a little bit entitled

Personally I think that we can do and should do better and be aiming very high. It’s not entitled at all, it’s just wanting to win trophies and compete with the best which we know we can when we all the stars align.
 




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