Brian Fantana
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Agreed. See my initial reply to the OP, further up Page 4.
Ah, cheers. Hadn't seen that!
Agreed. See my initial reply to the OP, further up Page 4.
Have to agree with you there, by Frutos' logic he infers that you must be mentally stronger if you do not drink whilst mentally weak if you do, accepting that our culture might include challenges for both, one neednt be seen as particularly stronger than the other.
I agree, it's the judgemental, you like a drink so you must be a weak person thing. I know numerous people on anti depressants and popping diazepams every couple of hours, I guess they must be weak as well.
I agree, it's the judgemental, you like a drink so you must be a weak person thing. I know numerous people on anti depressants and popping diazepams every couple of hours, I guess they must be weak as well. I would rather have a nice glass of whisky or red wine after a hard days graft than be a zombie on diazepam. Some people have led very sheltered lives. My ex colleague has had a drink, several every single day for the last 25 years and he is in rude health. Best drank 6 bottles of wine a day which is over 400 units a week so 5 days drinking 30 units a week is perfectly healthy.
There is a difference between "liking a drink" and "needing a drink to lubricate the wheels of your life".
Drinking to excess and taking anti-depressents like Smarties are symptoms of a weak and lazy society - instead of actually facing up to, and dealing with, issues in life (which we all have) SOME people take the easy, route of running away and burying their problems under a mountain of drugs simply because its the easy option.
Please note US that this is my personal opinion, to which I am fully entitled. It is not a personal attack on you or indeed anyone else, so don't bother engaging your usual high horse flounce mode because someone has dared to disagree with or contradict you.
30 units a week is above the MAXIMUM limit for a male, so I would not really agree that it is "perfectly healthy". However, it is not necessarily a problem either. Is anyone on this thread suggesting it is though?
You are doing yourself a disservice by bracketing prescribed medication with alcohol.
Certain medication is prescribed by doctors as a way of helping people who have a chemical imbalance in the brain. It is not the same as getting drunk to avoid your problems. Not even close.
Please don't make the mistake of going down the "pull yourself together" mentality towards mental illness. Its a neanderthal approach. A mental illness (chemical inbalance in the brain) is no different to a physical illness in the way it requires treatment.
Poor form, buddy. Expected better from you as you are usually a wise and thoughtful poster.
I could never knock booze on the head completely but I am manking a conscious effort to exercise more. I nrmally do twice a week so will try for 3 times and spend an hr and a half instead of an hour.
Eat more healthilty and cut down on booze and fags. But I will never cut it down to zero. Personal choice. Sometimes its just nice to have a drink and a ciggie.
I have no objection to prescribed medication used as you describe to treat chemical imbalances, and you are quite right in what you say that it requires treatment the same as any physical condition would do.
My comments were aimed more in the direction of those who choose to abuse the system in search of an easy life because they prefer (and I believe it is a conscious, rational choice in some people) to run and hide behind a chemical curtain rather than seeking the help they require.
My apologies if my post made you think that I am a devotee of the "pull yourself together" school of thought, that is certainly not the case. All I am is anti those who choose to use drugs (of any kind) as an escape route from the difficulties of life
If you are a reasonably big drinker, I think it would be very difficult to suddenly cut down to zero. And why just for a year? What about at the end of that year? Do you hope the habit has just stuck and you don't return to your old ways?
I could never knock booze on the head completely but I am manking a conscious effort to exercise more. I nrmally do twice a week so will try for 3 times and spend an hr and a half instead of an hour.
Eat more healthilty and cut down on booze and fags. But I will never cut it down to zero. Personal choice. Sometimes its just nice to have a drink and a ciggie.
I could never knock booze on the head completely but I am manking a conscious effort to exercise more. I nrmally do twice a week so will try for 3 times and spend an hr and a half instead of an hour.
Eat more healthilty and cut down on booze and fags. But I will never cut it down to zero. Personal choice. Sometimes its just nice to have a drink and a ciggie.
In all honesty finance is a huge motivator for me as have a baby arriving in 9 weeks and my wife not going back to work so no boozing will save quite a bit of cash.
Dunno what happens at the end of 2013. If I have made it can seriously see myself giving up for good.
Havent had a drink since 30th December now and went for a run today and covered 4 miles with ease, where I usually flake out after two.
Placebo effect I know, but feel better already.
Great username btw.