[News] Nigel Farage and Reform

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Hugo Rune

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Ah a left-wing site using a dodgy metric online poll that can be easily ratioed.

If a Rasmussen poll says so then I'll believe it but that's not what I am hearing from voters in the red wall in reports.

I am also aware of the "Lets blame Farage" Campaign on the left. he is a symptom not a course.
I’m not sure anyone believes that Farage is a course? A course in what? Hate? Grifting? Self harm to his own nation? How to trick the least intelligent people in the country that migrants are the root of all their problems, not 14 years of Tory government? I suppose the ashtray scented, frog mouthed racist would be guaranteed to have you as his student though?

Anyway, on another matter, I’ve come to the conclusion you are the Crawley One. Can you confirm?
 




Doc Lynam

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Ah a left-wing site using a dodgy metric online poll that can be easily ratioed.

If a Rasmussen poll says so then I'll believe it but that's not what I am hearing from voters in the red wall in reports.

I am also aware of the "Lets blame Farage" Campaign on the left. he is a symptom not a course.
I’m sure I can speak for you and many others that Farage is a race baiting cancer in our country.
 




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Ah a left-wing site using a dodgy metric online poll that can be easily ratioed.

If a Rasmussen poll says so then I'll believe it but that's not what I am hearing from voters in the red wall in reports.

I am also aware of the "Lets blame Farage" Campaign on the left. he is a symptom not a course.
If you are hearing voices from inside the red wall then have a chat with your GP. It's probably for the best.
 


Right Brain Ronnie

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You really are a prize WUM of the highest order aren’t you. :facepalm: I rarely if ever join in with pile ons against other posters but how extraordinarily callous and so twisted out of shape can a person be to call the husband of murdered MP, Jo Cox, a “fool” for calling out the underlying ideology that led to his wife being killed by a neo-nazi, white supremacist?

I feel I (many of us) have given you the benefit of the doubt with your neurodivergent complaints about the way you feel you have been treated on NSC despite feeling very uncomfortable about your obsessive references to neurodivergent conditions in every thread you post on but ffs, calling other posters “naive” for taking a stand against Antisemitism, (and other forms of racism) and calling it “first class naivety” when those same posters call out far right/hard right ideology is unbelievably misguided and frankly asking for a cyber version of a punch in the face.

FWIW before you start blaming your ADHD or Dyslexia as the reason for my reaction to your above post, I am Jewish, left of centre and Autistic. And you have just become one big frickin trigger.

Sorry this has taken so long to reply to, but for some reason I was shutdown for a week, despite only replying to others in a similar language as they used.🤦‍♂️

I have to say I'm very sorry, as I was only a ware of the murderer as being mental ill. This is a dyslexic mistake as I don't read papers as I will do a lot of scanning.
To my knowledge Nigel Farage didn't have any connection with the murderer, so for Mr Cox to try and incite hatred to Farage over the media was wrong and dangerous. Two tier Keir will gain a bit more respect from me when he balances this out and convict both sides for inflating violence.

I hope you accept my mistake, and understand my point a bit clearer. Whether you agree or not!
 




Right Brain Ronnie

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Honestly I think maybe you should be addressing your apology to whoever gave you a time out because it had nothing to do with me. Maybe they will understand you when you say that it is your dyslexia that causes you to post far right rhetoric and be abusive to other posters. I don’t tbh.

Im sorry for behaving so harshly toward you in my post though - it’s not usually in my nature to explode like that and having been at the receiving end of bullying and pile ons myself, I know it can feel horrible so it’s not in my nature to add to your existing woes either - whatever they are - and I do appreciate you thinking you owe me personally an apology but you don’t - it wasn’t me you were abusive towards, it was me that laid into you.

It does’t change my opinion though - I just probably could have been less shouty about it. 🤷🏻‍♂️
But my apology was for you.

Any thing deemed abusive was just a reply to the people that did the same to me, but the two tier system on here kicked in, as they went on to post for the past 7 days.
My dyslexia has absolutely nothing to do with my slightly right of centre views. The problem is people like myself keep getting misunderstood, I don't have any race issues at all, I just have mass immigration issues, amongst the way completely different.

Please accept my apology, I accept yours.👍
 


Deportivo Seagull

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Sorry this has taken so long to reply to, but for some reason I was shutdown for a week, despite only replying to others in a similar language as they used.🤦‍♂️

I have to say I'm very sorry, as I was only a ware of the murderer as being mental ill. This is a dyslexic mistake as I don't read papers as I will do a lot of scanning.
To my knowledge Nigel Farage didn't have any connection with the murderer, so for Mr Cox to try and incite hatred to Farage over the media was wrong and dangerous. Two tier Keir will gain a bit more respect from me when he balances this out and convict both sides for inflating violence.

I hope you accept my mistake, and understand my point a bit clearer. Whether you agree or not!
My daughter has dyslexia and the one things she does not do is ‘a lot of scanning’. In fact I would say it is the complete opposite.

The fact that you use the term ‘two tier Keir’ and that the anti far right demo’s have an equal billing with the far right violence when it comes to being arseholes says it all really.
 


Right Brain Ronnie

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My daughter has dyslexia and the one things she does not do is ‘a lot of scanning’. In fact I would say it is the complete opposite.

The fact that you use the term ‘two tier Keir’ and that the anti far right demo’s have an equal billing with the far right violence when it comes to being arseholes says it all really.
Is she diagnosed or self diagnosed?

I scan when I am over whelmed with words, but my ADHD probably exacerbates the scanning.

You or your wife is probably dyslexic also, it's very strongly follows through family trees.

Two tier is used because I have yet to see a balance, that's all, most people want, it really is that simple and if he could show examples of fairness, he could show his leadership skills, as of yet right of centre have seen nothing from Starmer.
I have only ever known one far right person and I have come across many people through my life, he was nasty, he also ended up in jail, he's excuse was always because he was chased by some Asian lads in the seventies and stabbed by them, and always looking for retribution as they never got charged.

The vast majority of people I know, have had enough of the fairness in the Britain, the scales are out of kilter and so is our country, hence the protests.

Just to make it clear, I have been on one protest in my whole life, the Falmer march. (Hardly far right)

I think protests and protesters in general are just an angry bunch of people, the sort that will never be happy, the sort will think a Point at Everton is a disaster.......you know the sort.

That said I have like many I know had enough of the balance in Britain today, and was close to knocking up my placard and joining the protests.....that would have been so far from my beliefs i wouldn't have recognised myself, that perhaps shows the feeling of right of centre are experiencing. Starmer needs to use his ears and calm the country to prove he can balance this situation once and for all, can he do it?

Maybe if he actually listens.
 




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My daughter has dyslexia and the one things she does not do is ‘a lot of scanning’. In fact I would say it is the complete opposite.

The fact that you use the term ‘two tier Keir’ and that the anti far right demo’s have an equal billing with the far right violence when it comes to being arseholes says it all really.
I am yet to be persuaded this poster isn't faking disability for shits and giggles.

He is certainly up with all the right wing tropes :shrug:

Bring back Mouldy Boots....whose entire NSC fingerprint has somehow vanished...
 


Pogue Mahone

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Sorry this has taken so long to reply to, but for some reason I was shutdown for a week, despite only replying to others in a similar language as they used.🤦‍♂️

I have to say I'm very sorry, as I was only a ware of the murderer as being mental ill. This is a dyslexic mistake as I don't read papers as I will do a lot of scanning.
To my knowledge Nigel Farage didn't have any connection with the murderer, so for Mr Cox to try and incite hatred to Farage over the media was wrong and dangerous. Two tier Keir will gain a bit more respect from me when he balances this out and convict both sides for inflating violence.

I hope you accept my mistake, and understand my point a bit clearer. Whether you agree or not!
This is utterly unacceptable. How this person is able to post such unadulterated crap is beyond me.
 


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Sorry this has taken so long to reply to, but for some reason I was shutdown for a week, despite only replying to others in a similar language as they used.🤦‍♂️

I have to say I'm very sorry, as I was only a ware of the murderer as being mental ill. This is a dyslexic mistake as I don't read papers as I will do a lot of scanning.
To my knowledge Nigel Farage didn't have any connection with the murderer, so for Mr Cox to try and incite hatred to Farage over the media was wrong and dangerous. Two tier Keir will gain a bit more respect from me when he balances this out and convict both sides for inflating violence.

I hope you accept my mistake, and understand my point a bit clearer. Whether you agree or not!

Sorry this has taken so long to reply to, but for some reason I was shutdown for a week, despite only replying to others in a similar language as they used.🤦‍♂️

I have to say I'm very sorry, as I was only a ware of the murderer as being mental ill. This is a dyslexic mistake as I don't read papers as I will do a lot of scanning.
To my knowledge Nigel Farage didn't have any connection with the murderer, so for Mr Cox to try and incite hatred to Farage over the media was wrong and dangerous. Two tier Keir will gain a bit more respect from me when he balances this out and convict both sides for inflating violence.

I hope you accept my mistake, and understand my point a bit clearer. Whether you agree or not!

And I thought I was NSCs premiere right wing parody account with poor speling and grasp of reality. Looks as if I now have a cumpetitor.

Regards

DF
 




BadFish

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Is Right Brian Ronnie dyslexic?

He really should have mentioned it!
 


Deportivo Seagull

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Is she diagnosed or self diagnosed?

I scan when I am over whelmed with words, but my ADHD probably exacerbates the scanning.

You or your wife is probably dyslexic also, it's very strongly follows through family trees.

Two tier is used because I have yet to see a balance, that's all, most people want, it really is that simple and if he could show examples of fairness, he could show his leadership skills, as of yet right of centre have seen nothing from Starmer.
I have only ever known one far right person and I have come across many people through my life, he was nasty, he also ended up in jail, he's excuse was always because he was chased by some Asian lads in the seventies and stabbed by them, and always looking for retribution as they never got charged.

The vast majority of people I know, have had enough of the fairness in the Britain, the scales are out of kilter and so is our country, hence the protests.

Just to make it clear, I have been on one protest in my whole life, the Falmer march. (Hardly far right)

I think protests and protesters in general are just an angry bunch of people, the sort that will never be happy, the sort will think a Point at Everton is a disaster.......you know the sort.

That said I have like many I know had enough of the balance in Britain today, and was close to knocking up my placard and joining the protests.....that would have been so far from my beliefs i wouldn't have recognised myself, that perhaps shows the feeling of right of centre are experiencing. Starmer needs to use his ears and calm the country to prove he can balance this situation once and for all, can he do it?

Maybe if he actually listens.
Diagnosed. My wife is almost certainly dyslexic.

As for the rest of the post. Total and utter bollocks.
 


Bodian

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Two tier is used because I have yet to see a balance, that's all, most people want, it really is that simple and if he could show examples of fairness, he could show his leadership skills, as of yet right of centre have seen nothing from Starmer.
What has he actually been 'unfair' about so far? And to who? Examples please (proper ones).
 


Zeberdi

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But my apology was for you.

Any thing deemed abusive was just a reply to the people that did the same to me, but the two tier system on here kicked in, as they went on to post for the past 7 days.
My dyslexia has absolutely nothing to do with my slightly right of centre views. The problem is people like myself keep getting misunderstood, I don't have any race issues at all, I just have mass immigration issues, amongst the way completely different.

Please accept my apology, I accept yours.👍
Accepted at face value 👍

I really don’t like to see anyone being targeted or bullied, or the focus of a pile on on online forums however much people think it merits - it makes me feel distinctly uncomfortable as a bystander - we generally don’t know the ‘truth of people’ unless we know them personally so erring on the side of caution, I’m hoping the following will be helpful to you:

Quoting your ‘concerns’ - After 14 years of;
  • ’unfairness’
  • a ‘lack of balance’,
  • ‘not being listened to’
  • a divisive and divided party that was moving well to the right of right of centre
a Kier Starmer Government sounds like ‘just what the doctor ordered’ for you tbh.

The Tories have imploded leaving large sectors of the population feeling unrepresented but until they get their act together as an effective opposition Party (which could take at least one term) I would argue that Nigel Farage/Reform UK is definitely not the answer - it is his messaging that has created a toxic mix of misinformation and scapegoating in this country, exploiting the genuine frustrations of those feeling economic hardship and living social deprived areas, especially in those areas with a very high ethnic demographic.

In just under 6 weeks, SKS has addressed some of the underlying issues that people (you?) are saying that lead up to ‘normal’ people ( disaffected, bored youth mostly) going on a violent rampage through our streets for the past fortnight:
  • .Changes to taxation,
  • healthcare investment,
  • rebooting house building/construction industry,
  • addressing irregular immigration at source etc
  • Back to work Plan to boost training, employment and higher wages (see link)
There may be more changes specific to the root causes of the unrest but money is tight - community regeneration/investment and economic recovery in poorer/working class areas will take years.

It’s not going to happen over night as will reforms/restructuring of the health service and dealing with the shortage in staffing so it is fit for purpose.

Those that conflate racism with raising legitimate concerns about immigration are not helping - weaponising racism to silence genuine debate about immigration is oppressive and creates festering resentments. Conversely, for those people for whom this is about immigration levels, couching their ‘concerns’ in terms that are discriminatory, push stereotypical tropes and scapegoat ethnic minorities, will rightly be condemned by most fair-minded people.

I hope that helps.

 




Right Brain Ronnie

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Accepted at face value 👍

I really don’t like to see anyone being targeted or bullied, or the focus of a pile on on online forums however much people think it merits - it makes me feel distinctly uncomfortable as a bystander - we generally don’t know the ‘truth of people’ unless we know them personally so erring on the side of caution, I’m hoping the following will be helpful to you:

Quoting your ‘concerns’ - After 14 years of;
  • ’unfairness’
  • a ‘lack of balance’,
  • ‘not being listened to’
  • a divisive and divided party that was moving well to the right of right of centre
a Kier Starmer Government sounds like ‘just what the doctor ordered’ for you tbh.

The Tories have imploded leaving large sectors of the population feeling unrepresented but until they get their act together as an effective opposition Party (which could take at least one term) I would argue that Nigel Farage/Reform UK is definitely not the answer - it is his messaging that has created a toxic mix of misinformation and scapegoating in this country, exploiting the genuine frustrations of those feeling economic hardship and living social deprived areas, especially in those areas with a very high ethnic demographic.

In just under 6 weeks, SKS has addressed some of the underlying issues that people (you?) are saying that lead up to ‘normal’ people ( disaffected, bored youth mostly) going on a violent rampage through our streets for the past fortnight:
  • .Changes to taxation,
  • healthcare investment,
  • rebooting house building/construction industry,
  • addressing irregular immigration at source etc
  • Back to work Plan to boost training, employment and higher wages (see link)
There may be more changes specific to the root causes of the unrest but money is tight - community regeneration/investment and economic recovery in poorer/working class areas will take years.

It’s not going to happen over night as will reforms/restructuring of the health service and dealing with the shortage in staffing so it is fit for purpose.

Those that conflate racism with raising legitimate concerns about immigration are not helping - weaponising racism to silence genuine debate about immigration is oppressive and creates festering resentments. Conversely, for those people for whom this is about immigration levels, couching their ‘concerns’ in terms that are discriminatory, push stereotypical tropes and scapegoat ethnic minorities, will rightly be condemned by most fair-minded people.

I hope that helps.

Too hot to debate such a subject today👍 Speak soon, on this.

Meanwhile a terrible stabbing in Leicester square, 11 year-old girl and 34 year old woman, what the f### is going on.☹️
 


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