[News] Nigel Farage and Reform

[Eric the meek]

Calm down dear, not everything is about you.

I'll decline listening to Cooper Clarke thank you for posting though, he always annoyed me on 8 out of 10 ;-)

This one is going to VAR.

VAR says 'yellow card for pretending not to be upset about 'cack town'. We all know you called it 'patronising'.

NEVER try to con VAR.

 

[carlzeiss]

Nope. You’re wrong. If you don’t understand the value of a public funded news and entertainment service, I can’t help you.

I'm doing just fine thanks so no help required

 

[WATFORD zero]

It is so sad when these racists, fascists, homophobes, islamophobes, misogynists, antisemites, nazi sympathisers, Putin supporters, Trump supporters, Andrew Tate supporters and conspiracy theorists follow Nigel around jumping in to be party officials, candidates and supporters when he's never done anything at all to encourage them.

You can't help but feel sorry for somebody who seems to have such bad luck with officials, candidates, campaigners and supporters

Well firstly, I'm no Farage or Reform voter so you can wind your neck in about that!.

Of course you don't, you just find yourself having to defend them. Maybe you're unlucky too

 

[Pevenseagull]

Paper candidates have been a thing gor a while. Lib dems have certainly done it to have a name on the ballot.

The odd thing is that they need 10 people in the constituency to support their candidacy (I think).

Why didn't any of them stand?



Edit, just checked, I am wrong

 

[Zeberdi]

It is so sad when these racists, fascists, homophobes, islamophobes, misogynists, antisemites, nazi sympathisers, Putin supporters, Trump supporters, Andrew Tate supporters and conspiracy theorists follow Nigel around jumping in to be party officials, candidates and supporters when he's never done anything at all to encourage them.

You can't help but feel sorry for somebody who seems to have such bad luck with officials, candidates, campaigners and supporters

The joke is, they don’t actually realise he’s really a pumped up frustrated little neo-liberalist at heart who doesn’t give a shit about them or the Country but wants a global forum with his mates Orbän, Trump and Bannon (when the latter is released from jail) to reap the financial benefits of a non-ethical/regulation-free global market economy. The fact he couldn’t organise a piss up in a brewery without falling flat out drunk while he’s still hanging up the party bunting is neither here nor there. The outrage that all these supporters would inevitably experience when they find out that Farage isn’t really ‘their man’ has come earlier than expected with the appointment of a Muslim Chairman to prove that Reform UK is a “modern, diverse and welcoming party” - I’m waiting for him to miss the international exposure he had at the European Parliament and announce that Reform UK is going to lead the Country back into Europe


EDIT - Just to be clear in case there’s any confusion my above comments in bold refer to Nigel Farage btw not @nevergoagain

 

[Eric the meek]

Of course you don't, you just find yourself having to defend them. Maybe you're unlucky too

Perhaps he was offended on behalf of actual, real Reform voters.

 

[Stato]

I've had it with this thread. I cannot express the extent of my dismay at the unacceptable opinions being espoused. I'm just lost for words...

I mean.... How can anybody not love John Cooper Clarke?

 

[Thunder Bolt]

A bit like Trump going after the Black vote - it backfired eventually.

I want to know what 30p Lee thinks of it, considering his comments about the Muslim mayor of London?

 

[TomandJerry]

I want to know what 30p Lee thinks of it, considering his comments about the Muslim mayor of London?

It must be tough being the man of the people, trying to keep everyone happy can't be easy

 

[AlbionBro]

I don't follow politics as close as many on here, but how much damage can Farage really do to Labour with just five MPs ? I would of guessed next to nothing.

 

[TomandJerry]

I don't follow politics as close as many on here, but how much damage can Farage really do to Labour with just five MPs ? I would of guessed next to nothing.

It's far more damaging to the Tories since it splits the right vote

 

[KZNSeagull]

I don't follow politics as close as many on here, but how much damage can Farage really do to Labour with just five MPs ? I would of guessed next to nothing.

Whilst there are people voting for Reform either because they believe in their polices or they are using them to register a protest vote (as many did when voting for Brexit) but their reasons for voting that way are not being addressed, the damage is done to all major parties. Any lurch to the left or right should be a wake up call to everyone to find out what the issues are and sort them out. Ignoring them and hoping they go away will not work.
Not that long ago the far right in France was only getting 3% of the vote, now they are getting at least 10x that.

 

[AlbionBro]

Whilst there are people voting for Reform either because they believe in their polices or they are using them to register a protest vote (as many did when voting for Brexit) but their reasons for voting that way are not being addressed, the damage is done to all major parties. Any lurch to the left or right should be a wake up call to everyone to find out what the issues are and sort them out. Ignoring them and hoping they go away will not work.
Not that long ago the far right in France was only getting 3% of the vote, now they are getting at least 10x that.

I would agree, I feel the lurch to the left and right happened four or five years ago. I wonder if there is any graphs that show a jump in the UK?
At this point I feel Keir can calm it down between both sides if the far left of labour don't remove him. So can Farage do anything at all with the five of them, a part from make a bit of noise?

 

[KZNSeagull]

I would agree, I feel the lurch to the left and right happened four or five years ago. I wonder if there is any graphs that show a jump in the UK?
At this point I feel Keir can calm it down between both sides if the far left of labour don't remove him. So can Farage do anything at all with the five of them, a part from make a bit of noise?

Not in Parliament, no. Labour have such a huge majority that none of the opposition can do anything other than make noise. But the likes of Reform will shout very loudly and twist the narrative in their favour in the press etc if Starmer doesn't address key issues, the first being immigration I guess.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

All those who are getting het up about Labour releasing prisoners after 40% of their sentences instead of 50% spent, can take heart that they have an MP who has served his time and now in Parliament.

 

[Peteinblack]

It's far more damaging to the Tories since it splits the right vote

But if Labour don't succeed in improving things noticeably over the next 5 years, it will 'feed' the Reform UK/Gammon narrative that "they're all the same", and so Labour too might lose more support to Reform UK in 2029.

That said, I think that the party's popularity with some sections of British society is really the cult of Farage, and I don't think he'll stick around for long. He'll find the nitty gritty of being an MP - meeting constituents every week to address their complaints about pot-holes, street-lights, Benefit payment delays, visa applications rejected - too tedious and unglamorous; it won't provide him with the publicity and headlines his fragile ego craves.

It will also interfere with his visits to Florida to play golf with his equally narcissistic pal Trump.

Voters will also now be able to see how Farage and his MPs vote on 'progressive' policies such as building genuinely affordable homes, strengthening workers rights, reducing NHS waiting lists, etc. As a hardline Thatcherite, Farage will probably vote against these, which will then show more voters that he is no friend of 'ordinary working people' or 'the left behind'.

 

[AlbionBro]

Not in Parliament, no. Labour have such a huge majority that none of the opposition can do anything other than make noise. But the likes of Reform will shout very loudly and twist the narrative in their favour in the press etc if Starmer doesn't address key issues, the first being immigration I guess.

That what I thought, so Starmer should be in complete control so hopefully he will sort it. When he has the figures to show it's working, Farages voice will all but disappear very quickly with luck.

 

[WATFORD zero]

I understand that James McMurdock, the previously unknown 5th Reform MP for South Basildon and East Thurrock may be a little better known by this time next week

 

[rogersix]

I understand that James McMurdock, the previously unknown 5th Reform MP for South Basildon and East Thurrock may be a little better known by this time next week

fingers in till, pants down, or just your standard racism?

 

[WATFORD zero]

fingers in till, pants down, or just your standard racism?

Apart from the assault and prison sentence, he was either a high flying businessman working for outfits like Goldman Sachs and Lehman Brothers while still a student at Sussex University or somebody has been telling porkies. I suspect there's currently a lot of furious editing on his various profiles

Meet James McMurdock, the fifth Reform MP that nobody expected​

The surprise late entry to “Reform bridgehead” in the Commons was working for a big financial firm in the City of London when he put his name forward as a paper candidate for the seat of South Basildon and East Thurrock. The 38-year-old who has previously worked for Barclays Capital, Goldman Sachs and Lehman Brothers, specialising in energy, infrastructure, and manufacturing, revealed he got a text from his boss shortly after.

After being hit with a number of candidate scandals which hurt them in the final days of the election, the Reform UK leader was relieved that the surprise MP “is such a solid decent guy who is going to be really good for us.”

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/meet-james-mcmurdock-the-fifth-reform-mp-that-nobody-expected/ar-BB1pwLCx?item=enable_random:false&ocid=ob-fb-frfr-839

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