[News] Nigel Farage and Reform

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Guinness Boy

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You can critique NATO policy and the US Military Industrial complex without being a Putin fanboy. Ease up on the binary thinking its not healthy.
But Neville Farage Chamberlain is an admitted Putin fanboy 🤷‍♂️
 






Baldseagull

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Cut energy taxes to boost standards of living, all their immigration policies, tax relief on private medicine as well as private providers boosts capacity and having a hybrid system functions better. energy reform and scrap net Zero, Ban Gender theory and CRT in schools and in brief undo all Blair reforms that have handicapped Government by devolving power to NGOs etc.

You asked politely and that is my briefish response. i will not get dragged by a dozen crazies from page to page posting points in bad faith and scroll bombs.
Fair enough, I don't want an argument either, I am a bit saddened, but it's your choice.
 


Baldseagull

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You can critique NATO policy and the US Military Industrial complex without being a Putin fanboy. Ease up on the binary thinking its not healthy.
You can, but Farage doesn't, he is a Putin fan boy, he has said he admires him.
 


nicko31

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Cut energy taxes to boost standards of living, all their immigration policies, tax relief on private medicine as well as private providers boosts capacity and having a hybrid system functions better. energy reform and scrap net Zero, Ban Gender theory and CRT in schools and in brief undo all Blair reforms that have handicapped Government by devolving power to NGOs etc.

You asked politely and that is my briefish response. i will not get dragged by a dozen crazies from page to page posting points in bad faith and scroll bombs.
Just remember the fossil fuel lobby are all over Reform like a rash...


Tice on climate change...

But he claimed: “There’s no evidence at all that if you get to net zero CO2 emissions, that all of a sudden, the power of the sun, the power of the sea, the power of the volcanic activity is going to stop.”

Christ these people should stay away from scissors
 








Kinky Gerbil

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What you say here I largely agree with, but I am less confident that there is no interest in removing socialised health care by many Tories, and a good number of their donors. Perhaps Farage is after those donors.

We all want better health care in this country, which is a good starting point, we need a plan on how to get there.

Farage won't be anywhere near power, so I don't think it will be much of an issue, Even if the Tories turn to him after the election, they will lose too many floating voters.
 




A1X

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Cut energy taxes to boost standards of living, all their immigration policies, tax relief on private medicine as well as private providers boosts capacity and having a hybrid system functions better. energy reform and scrap net Zero, Ban Gender theory and CRT in schools and in brief undo all Blair reforms that have handicapped Government by devolving power to NGOs etc.
The problem with this bit is their own immigration policies don’t agree with each other.

They claim to want zero net migration, which is obviously ludicrous but I won’t go into that here as it’s not really my point. But they also claim to want to bring in foreign nurses, doctors and care staff. Which would lead to net migration of +60,000.

Zero and 60,000 are obviously not the same number. So unless they’re also planning on deporting 60,000 people a year (not in their manifesto) then you can see how they’re not aligned.
 


Weststander

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What an insufferable prick.

I used to feel sorry for him with the milk shake attacks, being a (mild) form of political violence.

But his recent musings about Sunak and conversely Putin, have kind of changed my mind. I want Farage to have a shit couple of weeks.

His campaign trail must be a bit weird. There are entire regions where he’s hated, he won’t show up. Does he visit the same 28 seats every 2 days?
 


WATFORD zero

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Cut energy taxes to boost standards of living, all their immigration policies, tax relief on private medicine as well as private providers boosts capacity and having a hybrid system functions better. energy reform and scrap net Zero, Ban Gender theory and CRT in schools and in brief undo all Blair reforms that have handicapped Government by devolving power to NGOs etc.

You asked politely and that is my briefish response. i will not get dragged by a dozen crazies from page to page posting points in bad faith and scroll bombs.

So you've managed to copy 5 points from the election leaflet you've been given but are incapable of discussing any of the points any further ?

Congratulations, you've passed our screening tests and qualify to stand as a candidate. What constituency do you fancy :lolol:

I'm getting a little ahead of myself, have you ever had racist, fascist, homophobic, nazi apologist, misogynistic views and, more importantly, have you ever put them on Facebook, Twitter etc :facepalm:
 




Crawley Dingo

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The problem with this bit is their own immigration policies don’t agree with each other.

They claim to want zero net migration, which is obviously ludicrous but I won’t go into that here as it’s not really my point. But they also claim to want to bring in foreign nurses, doctors and care staff. Which would lead to net migration of +60,000.

Zero and 60,000 are obviously not the same number. So unless they’re also planning on deporting 60,000 people a year (not in their manifesto) then you can see how they’re not aligned.

Net zero would mean 60k would be added to the in pile and balanced with the out pile. I would say net zero is something to aim for than a hard target.
 


A1X

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Net zero would mean 60k would be added to the in pile and balanced with the out pile. I would say net zero is something to aim for than a hard target.
OK, so who would be the 60k you would want to be deported? Reform won’t tell us so maybe you could?

Remembering this needs to be an annual figure not just a one off.
 


Crawley Dingo

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So you've managed to copy 5 points from the election leaflet you've been given but are incapable of discussing any of the points any further ?

Congratulations, you've passed our screening tests and qualify to stand as a candidate. What constituency do you fancy :lolol:

Undoing the Blair reforms would be more than 5, and I was just asked what I agree with but what do you want? A full description of each point with charts and citations about 3,000 words?
Do you hold anyone you agree with to this standard? GFY
 






Crawley Dingo

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OK, so who would be the 60k you would want to be deported? Reform won’t tell us so maybe you could?

Remembering this needs to be an annual figure not just a one off.
Deport? Or those that just leave? There are multiple categories and if you are really interested try google.
 


WATFORD zero

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Undoing the Blair reforms would be more than 5, and I was just asked what I agree with but what do you want? A full description of each point with charts and citations about 3,000 words?
Do you hold anyone you agree with to this standard? GFY

Well let's just take your first one liner from your post/pamphlet
Cut energy taxes to boost standards of living,

What energy taxes ?
How much should they be cut by ?
How much would the savings be ?
Where would this money be spent ?
How would these taxes be replaced or what spending cuts would be made to achieve this ?

How would this boost 'standards of living' ?

In your own time :thumbsup:
 


AlbionBro

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I say you chaps, the Scots are kicking a bladder about, the Dingo lad might not agree with most of us on here, but is there any need to hound him?
Watch the football it's a typical Scottish battle.
 




Machiavelli

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I used to feel sorry for him with the milk shake attacks, being a (mild) form of political violence.

But his recent musings about Sunak and conversely Putin, have kind of changed my mind. I want Farage to have a shit couple of weeks.

His campaign trail must be a bit weird. There are entire regions where he’s hated, he won’t show up. Does he visit the same 28 seats every 2 days?
He's part of Bannon's -- and Trump's and Putin's -- (oxymoronic) Nationalist International.
 


Crawley Dingo

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Well let's just take your first one liner from your post/pamphlet


What energy taxes ?
How much should they be cut by ?
How much would the savings be ?
Where would this money be spent ?
How would these taxes be replaced or what spending cuts would be made to achieve this ?

How would this boost 'standards of living' ?

In your own time :thumbsup:
What you are doing is a type of trolling called Sealioning, asking questions to bog someone down when you can get the answers from using google. Try google.
 


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