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Peteinblack

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I have to say I am SHOCKED to hear rumblings of a new party forming on the far right.
I'm old enough to remember when it was the Far Left that constantly splintered into ever smaller, snarling, factions and minuscule parties, each a sect boasting that they were authentic and pure, while the others were 'running dogs of Capitalism' and 'bourgeois Establishment lackeys'!
 


Pinkie Brown

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Sep 5, 2007
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I have to say I am SHOCKED to hear rumblings of a new party forming on the far right.
It's a common trait with far right parties and other loony fringe groups. They generally all hate each other, the infighting spills over, they then implode and splinter into further parties and fringe groups. Then repeat. The National Front blew up. BNP the same. UKIP, BF and other smaller oddball parties - they've all followed the pattern.
 






schmunk

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It's a common trait with far right parties and other loony fringe groups. They generally all hate each other, the infighting spills over, they then implode and splinter into further parties and fringe groups. Then repeat. The National Front blew up. BNP the same. UKIP, BF and other smaller oddball parties - they've all followed the pattern.
As parodied in Monty Python's Life of Brian (albeit they were parodying the Loony Left socialist/communist parties of the 1970s).
 


Mellotron

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Jul 2, 2008
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It's a common trait with far right parties and other loony fringe groups. They generally all hate each other, the infighting spills over, they then implode and splinter into further parties and fringe groups. Then repeat. The National Front blew up. BNP the same. UKIP, BF and other smaller oddball parties - they've all followed the pattern.
Thank f***, eh.
 


Weststander

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I'm old enough to remember when it was the Far Left that constantly splintered into ever smaller, snarling, factions and minuscule parties, each a sect boasting that they were authentic and pure, while the others were 'running dogs of Capitalism' and 'bourgeois Establishment lackeys'!

That continued into this century. At a GE about 10 or 15 years ago? the BBC gave a 15 minutes platform to each of the smaller parties, most of them were far left. They spent the broadcast is vicious bickering. It wasn’t the SWP, it was far smaller outfits I’d never heard of.
 






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I'm old enough to remember when it was the Far Left that constantly splintered into ever smaller, snarling, factions and minuscule parties, each a sect boasting that they were authentic and pure, while the others were 'running dogs of Capitalism' and 'bourgeois Establishment lackeys'!
In the 70s I read there were 52 separate Trotskyite sects in the UK, each bitterly opposed to the others. :lolol:
 


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That continued into this century. At a GE about 10 or 15 years ago? the BBC gave a 15 minutes platform to each of the smaller parties, most of them were far left. They spent the broadcast is vicious bickering. It wasn’t the SWP, it was far smaller outfits I’d never heard of.
That's the landscape underpinning the events that resulted in my resigning from my union.
When only 30 people out of a branch of over 1000 turning up to vote (at an online meeting),
you can pass any shit mad motion you fancy,
But afterwards it is impossible to make it union national policy.
I learned after my branch voted to boycott Israel some years ago(by 25 to 5) that the motion didn't even get offered to the national executive.
They were just trying to keep a Palestinian lecturer in Palestinian studies sweet.
f***ing wankers.
 






Weststander

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That's the landscape underpinning the events that resulted in my resigning from my union.
When only 30 people out of a branch of over 1000 turning up to vote (at an online meeting),
you can pass any shit mad motion you fancy,
But afterwards it is impossible to make it union national policy.
I learned after my branch voted to boycott Israel some years ago(by 25 to 5) that the motion didn't even get offered to the national executive.
They were just trying to keep a Palestinian lecturer in Palestinian studies sweet.
f***ing wankers.

Looks like it was the 2005 GE, a left wing backlash against New Labour?

Socialist Labour 49 candidates
Scottish Socialist 58
Socialist Alternative 17
Workers Party 6
Workers Revolutionary 10
Communist 6
Socialist Unity 2
 


Gwylan

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Jul 5, 2003
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That continued into this century. At a GE about 10 or 15 years ago? the BBC gave a 15 minutes platform to each of the smaller parties, most of them were far left. They spent the broadcast is vicious bickering. It wasn’t the SWP, it was far smaller outfits I’d never heard of.
I was once Chair of an NUJ branch. At our meetings, generally about 30 people, we had SWP, two different Communist parties, Militant Tendency, Class War, Socialist Alternative and, for a short while, WRP. There were some furious arguments with each other and a nightmare to chair (I didn't belong to a party, so I was seen as neutral).

The barmy thing was at the end of the meeting, they'd all try to sell copies of their respective newspapers, with little success
 




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Looks like it was the 2005 GE, a left wing backlash against New Labour?

Socialist Labour 49 candidates
Scottish Socialist 58
Socialist Alternative 17
Workers Party 6
Workers Revolutionary 10
Communist 6
Socialist Unity 2


People's Front Of Judea, Judean People's Front...



2nd time I've referenced they this week
 


Weststander

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I was once Chair of an NUJ branch. At our meetings, generally about 30 people, we had SWP, two different Communist parties, Militant Tendency, Class War, Socialist Alternative and, for a short while, WRP. There were some furious arguments with each other and a nightmare to chair (I didn't belong to a party, so I was seen as neutral).

The barmy thing was at the end of the meeting, they'd all try to sell copies of their respective newspapers, with little success

Reading up in the past on these small UK parties, and it was the same with Colin Jordan/Tyndall/Webster, it’s invariably very parochial and insular. The main ‘characters’ are in a single party, then there’s a class of egos at a meeting culminating in a sulky schism into two parties. No one willing to see a bigger picture.
 


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