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5Ways Gull
È quello che è
Putin?
aolstudios
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& here it is. The first steps towards Neville Chamberlain level appeasement - "I have in my hand a piece of paper, signed by Mr Putin"...Why are you angry?
Take a look at what the US Ambassador to the Soviet Union when the Berlin Wall came down has written recently on the Ukraine crisis.
I was there: NATO and the origins of the Ukraine crisis
After the fall of the Soviet Union, I told the Senate that expansion would lead us to where we are today.search.app
The meddling involvement of the EU in Ukraine and Russia has been going on for years, it’s not been a part of the solution.
Ukraine: UK and EU 'badly misread' Russia
The UK and European diplomats are accused by peers of a "catastrophic misreading" of the mood in the Kremlin in the run-up to Ukraine crisis.search.app
As you can see from the comments on this BBC article in 2015 there are plenty of British people that could see the way ahead for Ukraine, and they understood how Russia would react to the west continuing to provoke Russia with expansionism.
Here we are 9 years on and the matter is essentially a political closed shop, Labour and the Tories aligned with continuing military and financial support for Ukraine in a war it cannot win.
It’s a unpalatable truth for some but a long lasting peaceful settlement is only likely if Ukraine gives up its territory occupied by its pro Russian population and the West denies Ukraine’s membership to NATO.
I don’t know if that is Farage’s view, if it is I would wager it would be more popular with British electorate than the current policies of Labour and Tory to deepen the crisis.
For that you should be angry.
Worked out well last time...
aolstudios
Well-known member
Yep
Or, the break up of the EU and NATO financially benefits Russia and allows a far easier path to recapture the territory lost when the Soviet Union broke up. Geopolitically this then gives an advantage to them over the USA, whereas currently their only warm, deep water naval harbour is Sevastopol - which they had to take by force.Why are you angry?
Take a look at what the US Ambassador to the Soviet Union when the Berlin Wall came down has written recently on the Ukraine crisis.
I was there: NATO and the origins of the Ukraine crisis
After the fall of the Soviet Union, I told the Senate that expansion would lead us to where we are today.
The meddling involvement of the EU in Ukraine and Russia has been going on for years, it’s not been a part of the solution.
Ukraine: UK and EU 'badly misread' Russia
The UK and European diplomats are accused by peers of a "catastrophic misreading" of the mood in the Kremlin in the run-up to Ukraine crisis.search.app
As you can see from the comments on this BBC article in 2015 there are plenty of British people that could see the way ahead for Ukraine, and they understood how Russia would react to the west continuing to provoke Russia with expansionism.
Here we are 9 years on and the matter is essentially a political closed shop, Labour and the Tories aligned with continuing military and financial support for Ukraine in a war it cannot win.
It’s a unpalatable truth for some but a long lasting peaceful settlement is only likely if Ukraine gives up its territory occupied by its pro Russian population and the West denies Ukraine’s membership to NATO.
I don’t know if that is Farage’s view, if it is I would wager it would be more popular with British electorate than the current policies of Labour and Tory to deepen the crisis.
For that you should be angry.
This anti-Western, anti Democratic strategy is only possible thanks to the existence of useful idiots / bent over bitches like Farage, who’ll ignore anything for a bit of cash.
- Jul 10, 2003
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Yep, same old monkey throwing the same old shit
But a bit less racism on this occasion after his last couple of bans for it
- Aug 24, 2020
- 7,156
Point taken from yourself and HWT. I won't rise to the bait again.Yep, same old monkey throwing the same old shit
But a bit less racism after his last couple of bans for it
Weststander
Well-known member
- Aug 24, 2020
- 7,156
Farage is a millionaire. Where did he get the money from?
And we let it happen in front of our noses. I guess he is the price for being in a democracy.
Deportivo Seagull
I should coco
so let me get this straight. Putin is a lovely bloke who wouldn’t hurt a fly and he loves his mum. He is terribly misunderstood and the suppression in Russia, invasion of Ukraine, threats to attack the Baltic states and chucking political enemy’s out of hotel windows is all fake news perpetrated by the West and the EU.Why are you angry?
Take a look at what the US Ambassador to the Soviet Union when the Berlin Wall came down has written recently on the Ukraine crisis.
I was there: NATO and the origins of the Ukraine crisis
After the fall of the Soviet Union, I told the Senate that expansion would lead us to where we are today.
The meddling involvement of the EU in Ukraine and Russia has been going on for years, it’s not been a part of the solution.
Ukraine: UK and EU 'badly misread' Russia
The UK and European diplomats are accused by peers of a "catastrophic misreading" of the mood in the Kremlin in the run-up to Ukraine crisis.search.app
As you can see from the comments on this BBC article in 2015 there are plenty of British people that could see the way ahead for Ukraine, and they understood how Russia would react to the west continuing to provoke Russia with expansionism.
Here we are 9 years on and the matter is essentially a political closed shop, Labour and the Tories aligned with continuing military and financial support for Ukraine in a war it cannot win.
It’s a unpalatable truth for some but a long lasting peaceful settlement is only likely if Ukraine gives up its territory occupied by its pro Russian population and the West denies Ukraine’s membership to NATO.
I don’t know if that is Farage’s view, if it is I would wager it would be more popular with British electorate than the current policies of Labour and Tory to deepen the crisis.
For that you should be angry.
Ukraine won’t give up its territory as Russia is slowly bleeding to death.
You have to be some sort of dickhead to think Putin that Putin is a peace loving, benign leader.
LamieRobertson
Not awoke
It’s youHi @Bozza,
Is it me being? I can never see this thread on the main board or in new posts, there's no Ignore Thread option here for me and I'm not ignoring the OP'er. I have to find it every time using search.
Deportivo Seagull
I should coco
I suspect that Starmer willl be asking the security services, HMRC etc to have a look at possibilities of Putin funding various organisation. If I was Farage and Tice I would be very nervous and if I was Arron Banks I would be shitting myself.
I had this a while back. Seems that as I had ignored the actual OP it looked to me that the thread was started by someone else. This thread was started by TomandJerry.Hi @Bozza,
Is it me being
LamieRobertson
Not awoke
So you have proof that said Dictator maybe funding Reform?
Deportivo Seagull
I should coco
No but the question was raised a number of times and the present government refused to investigate. The friends of Russia organisation that many tories and Farage were members was funded by Russia and ultimately by Putin. Farage was also paid by Russian State TV so not a big leap is it.
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Why are you angry?
Take a look at what the US Ambassador to the Soviet Union when the Berlin Wall came down has written recently on the Ukraine crisis.
I was there: NATO and the origins of the Ukraine crisis
After the fall of the Soviet Union, I told the Senate that expansion would lead us to where we are today.
The meddling involvement of the EU in Ukraine and Russia has been going on for years, it’s not been a part of the solution.
Ukraine: UK and EU 'badly misread' Russia
The UK and European diplomats are accused by peers of a "catastrophic misreading" of the mood in the Kremlin in the run-up to Ukraine crisis.search.app
As you can see from the comments on this BBC article in 2015 there are plenty of British people that could see the way ahead for Ukraine, and they understood how Russia would react to the west continuing to provoke Russia with expansionism.
Here we are 9 years on and the matter is essentially a political closed shop, Labour and the Tories aligned with continuing military and financial support for Ukraine in a war it cannot win.
It’s a unpalatable truth for some but a long lasting peaceful settlement is only likely if Ukraine gives up its territory occupied by its pro Russian population and the West denies Ukraine’s membership to NATO.
I don’t know if that is Farage’s view, if it is I would wager it would be more popular with British electorate than the current policies of Labour and Tory to deepen the crisis.
For that you should be angry.
- Aug 24, 2020
- 7,156
On the Ukraine war thread, there was an article based on western intelligence, that prior to the EU elections, a Moscow-backed Czech fund was financing far-right politicians in at least five EU countries. I'll try to dig out the link.
It doesn't take a great deal of imagination to conclude that Russia might have tried the same kind of stuff in the UK, does it?
LamieRobertson
Not awoke
Thanks….i hadn’t seen that on the Ukraine thread ……tried yes….suceed.? ….that why i asked
LamieRobertson
Not awoke
Thanks for the polite reply.
- Aug 24, 2020
- 7,156
I've been on the Ukraine thread since the war began. The full repertoire of Russian tactics is probably only known to the Royal United Services Institute. Even where there is evidence, it may be to our advantage to keep quiet and monitor.....
As an aside, it is questions like yours, with demands for actual evidence, ('he wouldn't do that, would he? Surely not? Where is the evidence??' ) that have allowed Putin to wage a hybrid war on the west since he rose to power. You can wait a lifetime for evidence to emerge. But by then, it's far, far too late. This guy can really bear a grudge.
The west didn't notice it was at war with Russia until it actually invaded Ukraine. IMO, this was a fundamental strategic mistake by Putin. Being a dictator, he isn't troubled by such pesky things as general elections. He has the axis of time sewn up.