And it isn't even an attack on Corbyn. I think you are the one losing their marbles
Calm down, dear.
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[News] Nigel Farage and Reform
- Thread starter TomandJerry
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Calm down, dear.
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
- Jul 10, 2003
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I've just gone generic thread title for now.We won't if we see it before @Guinness Boy merges it into this thread
I'm keeping the 'Reform meltdown incoming' title under wraps until poor ickle Nige gets asked another difficult question by a journalist, so I'd set your ETA for about 10.30am.
- Aug 24, 2020
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You're a coiled spring WZ. Farage is box office. Just not in the way he intended.We won't if we see it before @Guinness Boy merges it into this thread
"So Nige, mate. Welcome. Can I start by asking what makes you a 'man of the people'? Is it your expensive private education at Dulwich College? Your career as a commodities trader in the City? Your personal fortune of £ millions? Your recent account with Coutts, the bank used by the Royal Family? Your friendship with the billionaire property tycoon and convicted sex offender, Donald Trump?"
"Yeah, well, I'm backing reform. There isn't a lot of detail about the policies, but they are a breath of fresh air and he says it how it is. All the other parties are the same as each other, and you can't trust any of them. With reform....."
As vox-popped on radio 5 earlier today, yesterday and tomorrow (belongs to me).
Farage said Andrew Tate was ‘important voice’ for men in podcast interview | Nigel Farage | The Guardian
Reform UK leader has also argued against diversity quotas and said people on benefits were ‘too stupid’ to work in appearances over past year
amp.theguardian.com
Never forget who the real Nigel Farage is and what he stands for.
Problem is, a lot of his Gammony followers and worshippers can't forget, because they don't really know what he stands for in the first place; they just hear him being derogatory about people with darker skin, and claim that "Our Nige says it like it is." He give them permission to 'punch down' and blame others for their deprivation, and lack of hope for the future, but all the while, Farage is smirking off-camera.
So many useful idiots taken in by the Fake cheeky-chappy persona he's created, without knowing about his privileged background, and his views on anything beyond immigration. Like that other apparent 'loveable rogue', Boris Johnson, their public image is a carefully contrived act or performance to appeal to people who: a) want to be entertained by self-styled celebrities; b) applaud simplistic solutions to deep-rooted problems.
The fact that Farage (and Reform UK) think the Tory Party is too Left-wing and captured by Woke, shows how extreme and dangerous they are.
And like Brexit, some of Farage's more enthusiastic supporters are the very people who would suffer most from the ultra-Right policies he quietly advocates. But then, they would probably be easily persuaded that it was still someone else's fault - sabotage of his policies by the 'deep state'? - and that only Farage could save them.
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I hate Farage. He's an utter c**t and a cretin. This applies to anyone who wants to make everything sound so simple and decides that he is speaking on behalf of everyone else against "the political elite". Well you don't speak for me you frog-faced tosser or I suspect 85% of the country. So much so that you daren't even go to Scotland because you are hated there so much.
But you know what, I'm glad he's there because he is splitting the right-wing vote and has handed the keys to Labour. I'm not convinced by Labour at all but we are past the point where it matters that much - this lot need to go. The Tory party are in this mess because they have cow-towed to this idiot for years, wrecked the country in doing so, driving sane people away. And Reform's popularity will flat-line. They have maxed out at 17% and will not get more than that, especially when the decent, integral centre-right politicians return to prominence in the Tory party as needs to happen to put a clear line between Reform and the Conservative party. At the moment, the Tory party is being led by incompetent clones of Reform with the moderates waiting in the wings to take over once the election shit-show has played out.
But you know what, I'm glad he's there because he is splitting the right-wing vote and has handed the keys to Labour. I'm not convinced by Labour at all but we are past the point where it matters that much - this lot need to go. The Tory party are in this mess because they have cow-towed to this idiot for years, wrecked the country in doing so, driving sane people away. And Reform's popularity will flat-line. They have maxed out at 17% and will not get more than that, especially when the decent, integral centre-right politicians return to prominence in the Tory party as needs to happen to put a clear line between Reform and the Conservative party. At the moment, the Tory party is being led by incompetent clones of Reform with the moderates waiting in the wings to take over once the election shit-show has played out.
- Jul 10, 2003
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But at what point, in the face of all the mountains evidence about Farage, Reform and it's candidates, does the continued support and defence cease to be attributable to being 'Politically unsophisticated' (NF's own words) naivety or simple idiocy and reflect underlying traits that are far more obnoxious and abhorrent.
Or have we already gone past that point
Absolutely a very dangerous man who manages to make things you might here down the pub after a few pints sound almost like real policy ideas, we have all done it at some point come up with a brilliant idea or two that’s so simple to the most complex of issues that you wonder why it’s not already happening well that’s probably because you really do not have any real understanding of the issues.
I can remember after a few pints announcing that I had the answer to all the problems in the Middle East by threatening to flatten the dome on the rock and turning it into a concrete car park unless all sides stop fighting demilitarise and sort out a proper two state solution then tell the oil produlcers to stop pumping oil and instead be the worlds electricity supplier cover the Middle East in solar panels!
It’s easy to come up with what seem like brilliant ideas sponsored by your favourite beer but in reality it’s rubbish just like all the dangerous things Fararge and Reform keep pushing out.
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It’s remarkable how many simpletons we have in this country that fall for his one liner approaches in every campaign he does. Brexit it was £350m a week to the NHS, didn’t hear about anything else really. And he got over half the country (who voted) to go for it. This time it’s immigration, ‘get our Britain back’ , ‘put British people back to the front of the queue’
It’s not even hard to see through it, is it? Or do we just live in a country that has a hell of a lot of gammons
It’s not even hard to see through it, is it? Or do we just live in a country that has a hell of a lot of gammons
I hope you're correct, because the alternative is Farage proposing a merger and taking over the Tories, creating "Trump Tea Party" Conservatives where anyone to the left of Liz Truss is accused of being Conservative In Name Only.
Could such a party win a FTTP election? Maybe not. Would they poison the airwaves with their nonsense at every stage for the next five years? Absolutely.
From 5 July every single problem this country has, from the inflation caused by Truss, to the immigration they failed to control after Brexit, to the effects of Brexit, Austerity and partying through lockdown will somehow be blamed on Starmer, woke and 'illegals'.
Labour needs to hit the ground running, which is why I hope a lot of their blandness is simply Starmer 'carrying the Ming vase'.
I fear the answer is yes.
Of course, thinking or saying that makes us part of the 'liberal elite' that Farage (and Liz Truss) is targeting!