[News] Nigel Farage and Reform

[Zeberdi]

I think I understand Churchill's quote a bit more now:

'The best argument against democracy is a 5 minute conversation with the average voter'.

More worrying is that these complete and utter fcuking morons are being given rosettes so they can spout this shit and racist bile on people’s doorsteps in the hope they can get even more people to believe this shit and racist bile.

Here’s a quiz question: Who has the fewest brain cells - Trump supporters or Reform supporters?

 

[pb21]

More worrying is that these complete and utter fcuking morons are being given rosettes so they can spout this shit and racist bile on people’s doorsteps in the hope they can get even more people to believe this shit and racist bile.

Here’s a quiz question: Who has the fewest brain cells - Trump supporters or Reform supporters?

Also worrying is its a not an insignificant number of people who share this view. Reform is currently polling ~15%, probably the vast majority think along similar lines, or at least are sympathetic to this view, maybe 10% of the population or so.

 

[Cordwainer]

More of that here

Aren’t Muslims brilliant..fantastic..she’s even got the Fast Show accent!

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Also worrying is its a not an insignificant number of people who share this view. Reform is currently polling ~15%, probably the vast majority think along similar lines, or at least are sympathetic to this view, maybe 10% of the population or so.

To be honest, I’d rather have them out in the open than hiding in the Tory party.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

This CAN’T be real. It’s like a YouTube sketch

”what? At the airport?”

 

[jcdenton08]

”what? At the airport?”

It’s golden isn’t it!

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

It’s golden isn’t it!

I’m really in two minds about that clip….he can’t be for real can he? Are we being whooshed?

 

[Nobby]

They’re for real. And there’s a heck of a lot of them.
Like there was in 1930’s Germany
A minority that grew into enough (just under 30%) that gave a nice chap called Adolf, enough of a political platform to seize power
Couldn’t happen here though eh?

 

[golddene]

(2) End Right to buy - why? As long as stock is replaced when sold why stop aspiration to own your home?

This is where the Thatcher plan fell down, the money raised from council house sales, if I recall correctly, was ringfenced to be spent on otherwise Government subsidised council expenditure and replacement stock of houses sold at largely discounted rates was not to be used for stock replacement. This Tory policy deliberately ruled against this income being used for further council house developement.

As regards stopping the nations aspiration to own their own property, there is and always have been plenty of property on the open market for those of us who were and are prepared to make sacrifices to attain this status, I personally sacrificed plenty including a large part of my life holding down my job with my main employer and also working three other part time jobs to be able to afford the mortgage payments and to pay for and raise a family, no lovely extras like holidays etc. I spent my summer holidays forgoing the time off and spent the two or three weeks a year allotted to me, working at my day job premises maintaining the factory for the extra money and of course paying income tax on the whole extra amount earned. why favour a certain section of our nation by giving massive discounts on the property they were lucky/patient enough to find themselves at the top of a waiting list for, so were able to rent them at prices far lower than the market rate at the time. Then hit a jackpot by being able to buy these properties at favourable discounts. The discount offered today has been reigned in to a far lower level but the point still remains.

 

[Kuipers Supporters Club]

Farage today was attacked again in Barnsley, this time someone threw bricks at him before being arrested.

But it was only a milkshake last time, so it’s nothing.

This is exactly why I made the point that the milkshake thrower needed the full face of the law, as a deterrent to others.

It’s clear some are OK with political violence against him, he should be provided with close protection officers, he’s leading a party third placed in the opinion polls and should be able to campaign freely without fearing for his safety.

 

[jcdenton08]

Nigel Farage: Objects thrown at Reform leader while campaigning

The Reform UK leader says he will not be cowed by the incident, which was caught on film.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Nobby]

Farage today was attacked again in Barnsley, this time someone threw bricks at him before being arrested.

But it was only a milkshake last time, so it’s nothing.

This is exactly why I made the point that the milkshake thrower needed the full face of the law, as a deterrent to others.

It’s clear some are OK with political violence against him, he should be provided with close protection officers, he’s leading a party third placed in the opinion polls and should be able to campaign freely without fearing for his safety.

Pity someone didn't throw bricks at Hitler in the early 30's.....
Mind you, of course, this is completely different.
Nigel Farage is a respected politician here, his views are nothing like the small mustache'od German one.
No not one bit, nothing like them.

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

Farage today was attacked again in Barnsley, this time someone threw bricks at him before being arrested.

But it was only a milkshake last time, so it’s nothing.

This is exactly why I made the point that the milkshake thrower needed the full face of the law, as a deterrent to others.

It’s clear some are OK with political violence against him, he should be provided with close protection officers, he’s leading a party third placed in the opinion polls and should be able to campaign freely without fearing for his safety.

He's a complete prick

But you are correct.

 

[LamieRobertson]

Given the distance this dickhead threw heavy objects he could have seriously injured anyone of a group of people

What a way to get a police record

 

[Greg Bobkin]

I’m really in two minds about that clip….he can’t be for real can he? Are we being whooshed?

It's real.

Never underestimate how stupid/naive/brainwashed/lacking in common sense some people are. Never.

 

[Guinness Boy]

Farage today was attacked again in Barnsley, this time someone threw bricks at him before being arrested.

But it was only a milkshake last time, so it’s nothing.

This is exactly why I made the point that the milkshake thrower needed the full face of the law, as a deterrent to others.

It’s clear some are OK with political violence against him, he should be provided with close protection officers, he’s leading a party third placed in the opinion polls and should be able to campaign freely without fearing for his safety.

That’s exactly the violent division he seeks.

Yes, protect him, but let’s not pretend it’s not his fault.

 

[Greg Bobkin]

Nigel Farage: Objects thrown at Reform leader while campaigning

The Reform UK leader says he will not be cowed by the incident, which was caught on film.

www.bbc.co.uk

"I will not be bullied or cowed by a violent left-wing mob who hate our country".

It was ONE geezer (and one woman last week), you absolute hyperbolic weapon!

 

[A1X]

"I will not be bullied or cowed by a violent left-wing mob who hate our country".

It was ONE geezer (and one woman last week), you absolute hyperbolic weapon!

Only takes one guy to burn down the Reichstag...

 

[jcdenton08]

Dangerous thinking. Who is the arbiter of whether a politician deserves to be assaulted — you? No. Just don’t do it. Use your brains to attack your political enemies if you must. How long will it be before someone who takes exception to Starmer or Sunak deciding to attack them? A milkshake today, a brick tomorrow. Then a knife? In a democracy, our politicians are accessible. Let’s keep it that way.

It was a milkshake, not acid.

All the apologists for the far-thick and their Gbeebies/right-wing media chums are absolutely apoplectic with rage over this. It's funny, there simply wasn't the same torrent of outrage on my Twitter feed after Jo Cox. But then again, she was just murdered.

A milkshake today, a McFlurry tomorrow. Then an Egg McMuffin?

Yes, and politicians have been subjected to egg throwing throughout history (Cameron) (Prescott) (Corbyn) and green custard (Mandleson) purple powder ( Blair) …

There are plenty of things to be morally outraged at in British politics but dairy products being thrown at politicians while technically an assault and not pleasant for the victim, isn’t one of them.

You’re right that it was a stupid thing to do. But let’s be very clear; throwing a milkshake over someone is not murder.

Folks, some of us saw this coming.

For pages and pages I’ve been saying that it isn’t the milkshake per se, it’s the very real danger of normalising assaulting politicians in what should be a democracy.

I spoke before at some length about one-upmanship and the dangerous risk of copycat attacks, particularly due to exposure and engagement via TikTok et al.

This can not be laughed off or trivialised as many did originally, because some of us see the bigger picture and the inherent risk in undermining our democracy by not absolutely condemning attacks of any politician in public.

 

[A1X]

Two things can be true at once here;

1. This is an outrageous assault and utterly unacceptable
2. Farage is a twat whose rhetoric and actions increases the risk of twats doing this