[News] Nigel Farage and Reform

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

I have to say, things haven't gone particularly well since I launched my campaign to show not all Reform supporters are thick a couple of days ago. I was really hoping to get some help and find someone who was capable of explaining a Reform 'policy', but none seems to be forthcoming.

I haven't given up the cause as completely hopeless yet, but I'm starting to appreciate how Rishi must be feeling

They have their opinions (of which they are entitled, of course) and they are not going to be dragged into pointless discussions. What do you think political threads on a discussion forum are, exactly?

 

[WATFORD zero]

They have their opinions (of which they are entitled, of course) and they are not going to be dragged into pointless discussions. What do you think political threads on a discussion forum are, exactly?

Of course people are indeed entitled to their opinions and should voice them freely

opinion
/əˈpɪnjən/
noun
1. a view or judgement formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge.

But need to accept if their opinions are proven to be invalid, it may be pointed out to them

valid
/ˈvalɪd/
adjective
1. (of an argument or point) having a sound basis in logic or fact; reasonable or cogent.

and shouldn't get upset about it

I've just realised, I'm rather undermining my own campaign

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Of course people are indeed entitled to their opinions and should voice them freely

opinion
/əˈpɪnjən/
noun
1. a view or judgement formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge.

But need to accept if their opinions are proven to be invalid, it may be pointed out to them

valid
/ˈvalɪd/
adjective
1. (of an argument or point) having a sound basis in logic or fact; reasonable or cogent.

and shouldn't get upset about it

I've just realised, I'm rather undermining my own campaign

If someone posted a rational and defensible justification for voting for Fazza I suspect I might be a bit upset. And I wouldn't be above being surprised, in much the same way the sea isn't above the sky.

 

[A1X]

 

[A1X]

Try sticking to one company not ones that favour your political biases.

Oh look, here’s another one

 

[Stato]

In his statement to voters, the Reform UK candidate for Lewes writes:

"I believe in freedom of thought and speech but not in hate and divisiveness. I reject the ideology of some evil regimes."

Well, that's nice, but I'd be a lot more comfortable if he rejected the ideology of all evil regimes. I'm left wondering which are the evil regimes whose ideologies he doesn't reject?

 

[golddene]

We live and learn, perhaps. Though I don't see much about the ECHR in there. Like I said, Churchill was a keen proponent of European integration, but not with the UK as part of it - the UK had the Empire and Commonwealth as its primary international support.

As for the "not dictating national policy", that's surely a matter of semantics. The ECHR has told Switzerland that its national policy is wrong and illegal. (Besides, it's a strange case. They were sued on the grounds that warmer weather is bad for old people. Received wisdom for centuries has been that cold weather is bad for the old; the number of Americans moving to Florida in old age suggests that their old people haven't learned to love the snow and fear the sun. )

Great that you’re so well informed…. But we’re almost French down here so naturally Echr is fine by us in these parts

 

[Crawley Dingo]

The 21st was the date of those lies about Russia from Farage, so it falls slap bang at the start of this.

Worth noting more polling of this period has shown Reform dropping 2 points, and in the interests of balance one has shown no change. None have shown an increase.

Not lies, mis representation. Its the muller inquiry playbook.

 

[Crawley Dingo]

Do you think his Russia comments will give him a boost?

No idea, I think big shifts will happen in the last couple of days of campaigning.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Yes, I have checked before posting.

Reform candidate Leslie Lilley said he would ‘slaughter migrants’

The 70-year-old conspiracy theorist who is likely to reap 20 per cent of the vote in Southend East & Rochford is Facebook friends with the fascist leader Gary Raikes

www.thetimes.com

 

[TomandJerry]

Yes, I have checked before posting.

Reform candidate Leslie Lilley said he would ‘slaughter migrants’

The 70-year-old conspiracy theorist who is likely to reap 20 per cent of the vote in Southend East & Rochford is Facebook friends with the fascist leader Gary Raikes

www.thetimes.com

Once we leave the ECHR they can really roll back the decades and reintroduce hanging

 

[ManOfSussex]

Once we leave the ECHR they can really roll back the decades and reintroduce hanging

Exactly. It's all about going back to how things used to be in the good old days.

 

[TomandJerry]

Exactly. It's all about going back to how things used to be in the good old days.

I wonder if smoking in pubs ban will be on Reform's list of things to change?

 

[ManOfSussex]

I wonder if smoking in pubs ban will be on Reform's list of things to change?

Banning smoking in puns? Political correctness gone mad.

 

[Eric the meek]

I wonder if smoking in pubs ban will be on Reform's list of things to change?

Nailed on. Then they'll bring back saloon and public bars. Women will only be allowed in the saloon bars.

 

[Deportivo Seagull]

If I were to vote for Reform it would be as a protest vote, not as support for Farage. The differences between the other parties are only playing round the edges - essentially they're all supporters of tax and spend and tax some more. They bleed the productive sector of the economy dry, and then say they want to go for growth. The shut down the oil industry and import oil instead and claim they are doing good for the environment. It's universal.

No way is Farage going to win, but if he gets votes it might make the other parties (well, the Conservatives at least) realise that being Conservative would be a good way to get Conservative votes. Their entire election campaign is "we're bad but Labour would be worse" and Labour's is "the Tories are bad and we couldn't be worse". Liberal election campaign is "watch me go down this zipwire into the pool" and SNP's is "we hate the English".

That is utter bollocks and pretty contemptible if I’m honest. You‘d vote for a racist shit, whose economic policies make as much sense as ferret doing calculus… as a protest vote. you are just trying to defend the indefensible.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

In his statement to voters, the Reform UK candidate for Lewes writes:

"I believe in freedom of thought and speech but not in hate and divisiveness. I reject the ideology of some evil regimes."

Well, that's nice, but I'd be a lot more comfortable if he rejected the ideology of all evil regimes. I'm left wondering which are the evil regimes whose ideologies he doesn't reject?

The one he would like to be part of, 'running' country, I would imagine.

 

[ManOfSussex]

Nailed on. Then they'll bring back saloon and public bars. Women will only be allowed in the saloon bars.

Ban all day opening too, certainly on a Sunday.

 

[TomandJerry]

That is utter bollocks and pretty contemptible if I’m honest. You‘d vote for a racist shit, whose economic policies make as much sense as ferret doing calculus… as a protest vote. you are just trying to defend the indefensible.

I wonder how many voted for Brexit while seeing it as a 'protest vote'...

Then poo'd the bed next morning realizing what they had contributed towards

 

[Is it PotG?]

I wonder how many voted for Brexit while seeing it as a 'protest vote'...

Then poo'd the bed next morning realizing what they had contributed towards

Still it goes on, 'they didn't know what they were doing'.
There's loads of that on the Brexit thread.