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[News] Nigel Farage and Reform







Jul 20, 2003
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His plan is coming together.




They can call it The Conform Party

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AK74

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I checked on the HCGSG Facebook page, and yes, it was. I’m intrigued now. Was she a relative?
The Clutterbuck family were the original owners of our house (built in 1907). We bought it 3 years ago, and as I was curious about the property's history, I researched the background. Nesta inherited it from her father in the 1950s, before selling and moving to the Lake District, where she was one of the trustees of the William Wordsworth Society.

As a nice aside, 'Nesta Clutterbuck' was also a character in a Horrid Henry film (a teacher). I asked the producer if it was a coincidence, and they confirmed Nesta taught their beloved stepmother, and it was a nice way of paying tribute to Nesta's skills as an educator.

If you can remember anything else about Nesta, I'd love to learn more. You're welcome to PM me, as this thread is about Frog-faced Farage!
 






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Farage is a divisive gobshite who thrives on whipping up a froth from scummy pond water and passing it off as a cappuccino. He may garner a few votes here and there from the tories, but I doubt anyone with an iq above your average tadpole will be fooled by any of it.

It would actually be quite funny if he did win his seat as all of a sudden he'd be accountable for something. . . that could backfire spectacularly.
 


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Rishi’s national service plan and their lack of specifying what the sanctions would be has pushed my mother and father in law to reform from conservative- Rishi is a f***ing idiot.
Jeez! So with all the serious problems facing Britain (and the World) today, it's the issue of National Service which has prompted your In-Laws to abandon the Conservatives for an even more Right-wing political party.

I guess it reinforces my low opinion of many Reform UK voters; people for whom the Tories are simply not nasty or extreme enough.
 




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Farage is a divisive gobshite who thrives on whipping up a froth from scummy pond water and passing it off as a cappuccino. He may garner a few votes here and there from the tories, but I doubt anyone with an iq above your average tadpole will be fooled by any of it.

It would actually be quite funny if he did win his seat as all of a sudden he'd be accountable for something. . . that could backfire spectacularly.
Breath of fresh air
Says it how it is
Man of the people

He brings to statesmanship what Mike Bassett brings to football.
 


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Farage is a divisive gobshite who thrives on whipping up a froth from scummy pond water and passing it off as a cappuccino. He may garner a few votes here and there from the tories, but I doubt anyone with an iq above your average tadpole will be fooled by any of it.

It would actually be quite funny if he did win his seat as all of a sudden he'd be accountable for something. . . that could backfire spectacularly.
Agree! He is no 'man-of-the-people', but actually an ultra-Right-wing Establishment figure (like Oswald Mosely in the 1930s, and Enoch Powell in the 1960s), but sadly, angry and aggrieved poorer voters often view these shit-stirring charlatans as their saviours - as with Trump in the US.

However, if Farage does win Clacton - and I think he will, because of its elderly/poor demographic; the type of desperate people he exploits - he will then be exposed. Will he dutifully spend Friday evenings or Saturday mornings holding 'surgeries' where constituents can report problems to him (discrimination, education, employment, housing, local crime, neighbour-disputes, transport, and welfare) and expect him to deal with these by negotiating with the relevant authorities and agencies?

I doubt it; he will soon get bored, or consider this kind of unglamorous but important (to ordinary people) stuff beneath him: "Sorry, Donald, I can't make it for golf in Florida this weekend, because I need to be in Clacton to deal with Mrs Miggins' complaint about pot-holes in Acacia Avenue."

Also, as an MP, his attendance and voting record will be open to scrutiny; how often does he attend sittings of the House of Commons? How often does he speak in Debates, and when he does, what does he say? What does he do to promote or defend the interests of Clacton? How does he vote on issues (other than those to do with stopping immigration)?
 


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It will be interesting to see how frog-face fares on Nicky Campbell's phone in this morning.

The problem is he will get low blows in and many will be allowed to land.

This morning Tice (his amigo) stated, without correction, that Labour have no policies and plan to allow unlimited immigration (would that not be a policy?). Furthermore Labour and the Tories are both Socialist parties that will increase tax. A few hundred thousand of those listening will have had their mind made up (to vote Reform) by that.
 




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Agree! He is no 'man-of-the-people', but actually an ultra-Right-wing Establishment figure (like Oswald Mosely in the 1930s, and Enoch Powell in the 1960s), but sadly, angry and aggrieved poorer voters often view these shit-stirring charlatans as their saviours - as with Trump in the US.

However, if Farage does win Clacton - and I think he will, because of its elderly/poor demographic; the type of desperate people he exploits - he will then be exposed. Will he dutifully spend Friday evenings or Saturday mornings holding 'surgeries' where constituents can report problems to him (discrimination, education, employment, housing, local crime, neighbour-disputes, transport, and welfare) and expect him to deal with these by negotiating with the relevant authorities and agencies?

I doubt it; he will soon get bored, or consider this kind of unglamorous but important (to ordinary people) stuff beneath him: "Sorry, Donald, I can't make it for golf in Florida this weekend, because I need to be in Clacton to deal with Mrs Miggins' complaint about pot-holes in Acacia Avenue."

Also, as an MP, his attendance and voting record will be open to scrutiny; how often does he attend sittings of the House of Commons? How often does he speak in Debates, and when he does, what does he say? What does he do to promote or defend the interests of Clacton? How does he vote on issues (other than those to do with stopping immigration)?
Sadly nobody will care a jot about that. As long as he can grandstand on national TV and radio from time to time his brain-dead and deluded following will continue to adore him. He will doubtless say that his special role as party leader and principle face of his party means that he cannot devote the same sort of time to his constituency as your typical labour MP. And indeed there are for too many of them, with nothing for most of them to do other than take your money and talk this great country down (sorry, Farage has just morphed into Johnson in my head).
 


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It will be interesting to see how frog-face fares on Nicky Campbell's phone in this morning.

The problem is he will get low blows in and many will be allowed to land.

This morning Tice (his amigo) stated, without correction, that Labour have no policies and plan to allow unlimited immigration (would that not be a policy?). Furthermore Labour and the Tories are both Socialist parties that will increase tax. A few hundred thousand of those listening will have had their mind made up (to vote Reform) by that.
Reform UK's policies are a hotch-potch of contradictory or incoherent populist pledges; cut taxes and public spending, but spend more on Defence, housing, and pensions, and reduce student debt. Oh, and semi-privatise the NHS!

Of course, if interviewers probe him via awkward or detailed questions, he'll resort to bluster and insults, and his brain-dead followers will claim that he's being stitched-up by the 'liberal elite' or 'Woke Establishment'.
 


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It's somewhat ironic that across Europe ultra right wing protest parties have gained Seats in the European Parliament. The very thing Farage wanted out from.
 


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Reform UK's policies are a hotch-potch of contradictory or incoherent populist pledges; cut taxes and public spending, but spend more on Defence, housing, and pensions, and reduce student debt. Oh, and semi-privatise the NHS!
Policies, you say? They are on a par, substance-wise, with my vague plans for the day. It will involve eating and watching some football, but otherwise, who the f*** knows?
 




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Jeez! So with all the serious problems facing Britain (and the World) today, it's the issue of National Service which has prompted your In-Laws to abandon the Conservatives for an even more Right-wing political party.

I guess it reinforces my low opinion of many Reform UK voters; people for whom the Tories are simply not nasty or extreme enough.
Pretty unfair take IMO.

There are a swathe of voters of a certain age, who have been subject to 5 or 6 DECADES of right wing newspaper propaganda warning them day, after day, after day of the horrors of a socialist / communist / labour government. I find it difficult to lay the blame for their implanted prejudices at their own door.

So, if they feel that the Conservatives are not worthy of their vote, they’ll look for the the closest alternative - and it won’t be one who their self-interested media have warned them about.

As for the specific reason for this couple’s switch - it just fear of the unknown - and that’s all on Sunak’s desperate, panicked announcement. In the absence of any detail on the scheme, they’ve catastrophised as old folk do, and have assumed that their grandchildren are being sent to the front line, or being jailed if they refuse.
 


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Policies, you say? They are on a par, substance-wise, with my vague plans for the day. It will involve eating and watching some football, but otherwise, who the f*** knows?
Can I add a policy for you, drinking cider if it arrives today
 


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