[News] Nigel Farage and Reform

[The Clamp]

Well I read a couple of pages so I'll make a few points.

Someone asked what the woke mind virus is but obviously didn't look it up to see. Its a concept developed by Gad Saad an evolutionary biologist, first podcast I came across with him talking about it.



Elon musk "not as smart as his followers think", lol yea OK.

The rest seems just continual smearing of various right-wing figures that come into view. I cant be bothered going through it all fact checking and correcting multiple posts.

The phrase that springs to mind summing up the last couple of pages is that none of you are part of the conversation.

Quite interested in what he has to say though. I’ll look him up, not come across much of his stuff.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

What is Musk's end game? Is it, as he says, to end the woke mind virus (whatever that is and whatever the end would be) or is it something else.

Despite not being the pinnacle of human intelligence, as his followers believe, he's not stupid and I think he knows what he is doing, which is essentially just being a massive troll/WUM/c*nt.

He's playing with fire imo.

He’s got so much money, he’s bored and wants power.

 

[The Clamp]

Musk is basically Barry Kripke but with enough money and influence to annoy the planet rather than just the staff canteen.

 

[BadFish]

Quite interested in what he has to say though. I’ll look him up, not come across much of his stuff.

I agree, that video looks interesting from the first few minutes I watched.

I think it is time to retire the notion of 'woke' now though, if we are putting this stuff under its umbrella too then it has become way to broad to actually mean anything.

Although to be fair it has been this way for a pretty long time. At the moment it seems to be a word used to trigger people into framing information in a negative way.

 

[beorhthelm]

That used to be my only view of him, now I'm not so sure.

Maybe it's just snowballing, because publicly endorsing the AfD and Tommy Robinson is certainly a different game than winding up a few Liberals on twitter.

he doesn't gain anything really, with no actual input in UK or Germany, and has made his pitch in the inward looking US Republican camp. but winding up those people will do.

 

[The Clamp]

The world is lurching inexorably to the far right while we are being told by Musk et al that we are descending into lefty woke liberalism.

One of the dangerous effects of Brexit is that we are sitting ducks for Musk and his cronies to target. It’s always easier to pick off the lone, weak, deer.

Those morons that rioted last summer? Radicalised by Musk, Trump, Farage and Yaxley-Lennon. Yes. Radicalised.

It’s not going to change anytime soon. The idiots won. The world was theirs for the taking and they took it.

Shame on us all.

 

[BadFish]

The world is lurching inexorably to the far right while we are being told by Musk et al that we are descending into lefty woke liberalism.

One of the dangerous effects of Brexit is that we are sitting ducks for Musk and his cronies to target. It’s always easier to pick off the lone, weak, deer.

Those morons that rioted last summer? Radicalised by Musk, Trump, Farage and Yaxley-Lennon. Yes. Radicalised.

It’s not going to change anytime soon. The idiots won. The world was theirs for the taking and they took it.

Shame on us all.

This, the lie that while the world is run by the right (I include Starmer and Biden in there) but the woes are caused by the left is the most shameful one swallowed.

Many on the right are cawing in victory but unable to take the responsibly of what comes with it. Runs along the same lines as the mind virus stuff mentioned in CDs video. (Although that video was careful not to discuss any of the right leaning mind viruses.)

You have won, take the spoils and accept the responsibility.

 

[clapham_gull]

Quite interested in what he has to say though. I’ll look him up, not come across much of his stuff.

For full transparency he's another of our trans atlantic friends without context who supports Tommy Robinson.

 

[The Clamp]

For full transparency he's another of out trans atlantic friends without context who supports Tommy Robinson.

Ah, not seen or read any of his stuff. Though obviously if Crawley Dingo is advocating for him, he’s likely to be some kind of right wing numbskull.

Shame. But not surprising.

 

[clapham_gull]

Ah, not seen or read any of his stuff. Though obviously if Crawley Dingo is advocating for him, he’s likely to be some kind of right wing numbskull.

Shame. But not surprising.

He's a marketing academic who spends a lot on twitter. Imagine NSC's Looney with a PHD.

 

[The Clamp]

He's a marketing academic who spends a lot on twitter. Imagine NSC's Looney with a PHD.

Ah. Oh well. Another lunatic I’m not going to listen to. Pseudo academic shysters with thinly veiled racist undertones.

 

[BadFish]

Did

Quite interested in what he has to say though. I’ll look him up, not come across much of his stuff.

You watch the video, there were some interesting bits. Although I feel like he doesn't pay any heed to the nurture side of the debate. He sees everything as nature and I ate and does seem to acknowledge the role of society in anything.

I would also take issue with him seeing Doja Cats decision to change her appearance as the same as anorexia. I don't know much about Doja Cat but I would love to know if this link is sound. I suspect her motives are more about personal preference and selling records and concert tickets.

The interviewer is terrible though and seems hell bent on guiding the discussion to back up her biases (so quiet when he talks about religion and evolution ). Desperately trying to keep it as a left v right debate.

 

[BadFish]

For full transparency he's another of our trans atlantic friends without context who supports Tommy Robinson.

He also name checked Jordan Peterson et al.

Many claims about being authentic but then acknowledges that his book concert rates on the mind viruses of the left.

A fascinating fella but his biases in being authentic have to be recognised.

Did he say that homosexuality was a mind virus or did he stop short? He wasn't very clear (or authentic) in this case.

 

[AstroSloth]

Well I read a couple of pages so I'll make a few points.

Someone asked what the woke mind virus is but obviously didn't look it up to see. Its a concept developed by Gad Saad an evolutionary biologist, first podcast I came across with him talking about it.



Elon musk "not as smart as his followers think", lol yea OK.

The rest seems just continual smearing of various right-wing figures that come into view. I cant be bothered going through it all fact checking and correcting multiple posts.

The phrase that springs to mind summing up the last couple of pages is that none of you are part of the conversation.

Are you really unironically quoting PragerU as a "source"?

Absolute dog shit platform that pretends to be a university to sound more accredited than it is. There's nothing factual on there, just regurgitated far right talking points.



That's the best content to do with PragerU, and it's taking the piss out of it.

 

[Eeyore]

I agree, that video looks interesting from the first few minutes I watched.

I think it is time to retire the notion of 'woke' now though, if we are putting this stuff under its umbrella too then it has become way to broad to actually mean anything.

Although to be fair it has been this way for a pretty long time. At the moment it seems to be a word used to trigger people into framing information in a negative way.

I'm not sure that many who use the word 'woke' have an actual definition for it. Perhaps @Crawley Dingo could provide one for us ? It's a meaningless word to me.

 

[BadFish]

I'm not sure that many who use the word 'woke' have an actual definition for it. Perhaps @Crawley Dingo could provide one for us ? It's a meaningless word to me.

When asked he provided a long video as his definition, so I doubt it.

I agree though it is meaningless.

 

[clapham_gull]

Somewhat ironic that those who voted to leave the EU to regain power from the indirectly elected are listening to an unelected American billionaire hell bent on interfering with the decisions of our independent judicial system.

 

[BadFish]

Somewhat ironic that those who voted to leave the EU to regain power from the indirectly elected are listening to an unelected American billionaire hell bent on interfering with the decisions of our independent judicial system.

Acecdotally I have seen a few suggestions that you should replace the EU membership with being the USs bitch.

Seemingly driven by 'Nige, take back our independence'

What baffles me is how people are still being duped by his shit.

 

[Eeyore]

Well I read a couple of pages so I'll make a few points.

Someone asked what the woke mind virus is but obviously didn't look it up to see. Its a concept developed by Gad Saad an evolutionary biologist, first podcast I came across with him talking about it.



Elon musk "not as smart as his followers think", lol yea OK.

The rest seems just continual smearing of various right-wing figures that come into view. I cant be bothered going through it all fact checking and correcting multiple posts.

The phrase that springs to mind summing up the last couple of pages is that none of you are part of the conversation.

Well I watched that. It seemed to meander, although I identified with much of his thoughts. Yet much of what folk such as yourself deem as 'woke' is set against social consciousness as well as the denial of the absolute truths he refers to. But this may be because 'woke' has become a generic and politicised summary of a set of people within society. The evidence of this would be the very placement of the video on a political thread.

 

[BadFish]

A little balance and background on Saad.