Nice one George

[Deleted member 22389]

Blair repaired so much damage and revolutionized the country last time. You don't get 3 terms in this day and age without being something a bit special.

This lot are undoing it all

Hopefully it wont be too late when they get in

But what exactly are they undoing?
If they are getting people working and off benefits, who can work and should work, that's a good thing is it not?

In my opinion, Labour helped create an awful benefits culture in this country. They made it feel like, it was everyone's right to get some sort of benefit. Unfortunately the people who worked the hardest, paid the most in taxes, saved their money got nothing in return when they needed help, and the people that sat on their arse all day got everything. This part is still happening now, but at least the Tories are trying to do something about it.

 

[piersa]

Let me guess . . Labour's fault? You incompetent fuckwit.

BBC News - Ofcom raises £2.34bn in 4G auction, less than forecast

Ofcom raises £2.34bn in 4G auction, less than forecast

Telecoms regulator Ofcom has raised £2.34bn from its auction of 4G mobile spectrum, less than expected.

The Office for Budget Responsibility (OBR) had forecast that the auction would raise £3.5bn for the Treasury.

The winning bidders are Everything Everywhere; Hutchison 3G UK; Niche Spectrum Ventures, a BT subsidiary; Telefonica (O2); and Vodafone.

4G mobile broadband should provide smartphone and tablet computer users with superfast download speeds.

The auction netted far less than the £22bn raised from the 3G auction in 2000.

Ed Richards, Ofcom chief executive, told the BBC that the figure was lower because "we are in very, very different times", but he insisted that maximising the size of the auction was not the objective it was set by the government.

"What we were trying to do was ensure that a valuable economic resource was brought into productive commercial use," he said.

Responding to the announcement, a Treasury spokesperson said: "The £3.5bn number at Autumn Statement 2012 was certified by the independent OBR and based on external expert independent analysis based on similar auctions, including the last 3G one.

"The final auction revenue will be accounted for at Budget in the usual way."

But Chris Leslie, the shadow chief secretary to the Treasury, said: "It's extremely worrying that the Chancellor's entire budgetary strategy seems to be based on numbers that were significantly over-estimated."

Even senior Tories took the opportunity to criticise Chancellor George Osborne's figures.

John Redwood, MP, said: "The figure for the 4G auction was optimistic, just like most of the numbers in George Osborne's strategy. This is a dent, but there are far bigger dents in the public finances."

Radio frequencies
Ofcom says 4G will provide £20bn of benefits for UK consumers over the next 10 years.

But the culture secretary, Maria Miller, is even more bullish, saying: "Spectrum use is worth more than £50bn to the UK economy and 4G mobile broadband is a key part of our digital growth strategy, so I am delighted the auction has been completed."

The regulator auctioned the spectrum in two bands, 800MHz and 2.6GHz, equivalent to two-thirds of the radio frequencies currently used by wireless devices, such as tablet computers, smartphones and laptops.

This "will allow 4G networks to achieve widespread coverage as well as offering capacity to cope with significant demand in urban centres", said Mr Richards.

"4G coverage will extend far beyond that of existing 3G services, covering 98% of the UK population indoors - and even more when outdoors - which is good news for parts of the country currently underserved by mobile broadband", he said.

Vodafone bid £791m, the most of all the bidders, for fives chunks of spectrum.

Mobile operator EE, the T-Mobile and Orange joint venture, was the first to launch a 4G service in late 2012, but has struggled to attract users, leading it to cut its prices in January.

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Blair repaired so much damage and revolutionized the country last time. You don't get 3 terms in this day and age without being something a bit special.

This lot are undoing it all

Hopefully it wont be too late when they get in

Blair was special needs, I wil give you that.

 

[glasfryn]

I look at this thread and wonder ...do I give a feck.
the last auction for this sort of thing bought the country 22billion and george gave that away to the european bank and the irish and anyone else who stuck their hand out other than those who actually live here
whatever you think about the welfare state the people getting any benefits are at least British or most of them are thats if you don't count those who come in from countries he is giving aid to and taking our jobs and then losing them and claiming for themselves and the kids they left behind and all this while some poor sod who has two disabled sons will have to put them in the same bedroom when she moves otherwise lose £25 per week from her housing benefit.
but then again she could put them into care and cost the council or the government god knows what ................but then they are closing day care units by the day.
BARSTARDS

could not run a piss-up in a brewery

 

[Brighton Mod]

UK Polling Report

they will be booted out at the first opportunity

Has there been a worse government ?

Yes, that run by Blair, Brown, Calaghan and Wilson

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But what exactly are they undoing?
If they are getting people working and off benefits, who can work and should work, that's a good thing is it not?

In my opinion, Labour helped create an awful benefits culture in this country. They made it feel like, it was everyone's right to get some sort of benefit. Unfortunately the people who worked the hardest, paid the most in taxes, saved their money got nothing in return when they needed help, and the people that sat on their arse all day got everything. This part is still happening now, but at least the Tories are trying to do something about it.

Here, here!!

 

[beorhthelm]

im no fan of Osborne, but its a bit pathetic to blame him using someone elses predictions for auction outcome, based on a process thats been in progress for several years.

on a brighter note, 5 winners means more competition, and with low licence costs to recoup. consumers should come out well from this.

 

[Superphil]

UK Polling Report

Has there been a worse government ?

Oh yes

 

[glasfryn]

UK Polling Report

they will be booted out at the first opportunity

Has there been a worse government ?

depends on how rich you are

 

[Camicus]

Working class tories should hang there heads in shame

 

[DavidinSouthampton]

But what exactly are they undoing?
If they are getting people working and off benefits, who can work and should work, that's a good thing is it not?

In my opinion, Labour helped create an awful benefits culture in this country. They made it feel like, it was everyone's right to get some sort of benefit. Unfortunately the people who worked the hardest, paid the most in taxes, saved their money got nothing in return when they needed help, and the people that sat on their arse all day got everything. This part is still happening now, but at least the Tories are trying to do something about it.

If people would only try to find out about these things and not acquiesce in their silo type stereotypes, labour were doing plenty to try and move people out of benefits long before the last election. They just have a greater realisation of how difficult it is, unlike the present bunch of out-of-touch brainless insensitive clodhoppers.

In somewhere like Southampton, how are normal people supposed to get work when the number of vacancies registered with JobCentrePlus hovers between 2000 to 3000, and the number of people who want to work, when you take in to account the registered job-seekers and also include all those who are not registered but who are still looking for work - i.e. mothers looking to return to the workplace, people who would actually rather come off incapacity benefit and the likeand so on is closer to 18000 to 20000.

And I am not trying to blame that discrepancy on the Coalition, because 'twas ever thus, or at least has been for a while.

 

[seagullsovergrimsby]

im no fan of Osborne, but its a bit pathetic to blame him using someone elses predictions for auction outcome, based on a process thats been in progress for several years.

on a brighter note, 5 winners means more competition, and with low licence costs to recoup. consumers should come out well from this.

No , what it means is the mobile operators will have an increased profit margin.

 

[Camicus]

If people would only try to find out about these things and not acquiesce in their silo type stereotypes, labour were doing plenty to try and move people out of benefits long before the last election. They just have a greater realisation of how difficult it is, unlike the present bunch of out-of-touch brainless insensitive clodhoppers.

In somewhere like Southampton, how are normal people supposed to get work when the number of vacancies registered with JobCentrePlus hovers between 2000 to 3000, and the number of people who want to work, when you take in to account the registered job-seekers and also include all those who are not registered but who are still looking for work - i.e. mothers looking to return to the workplace, people who would actually rather come off incapacity benefit and the likeand so on is closer to 18000 to 20000.

And I am not trying to blame that discrepancy on the Coalition, because 'twas ever thus, or at least has been for a while.

This when 2,000 people apply for 1 job at Costas you know were in trouble

 

[seagullsovergrimsby]

This when 2,000 people apply for 1 job at Costas you know were in trouble

1,701 applied for 8 vacancies , I believe 7 of the vacancies were minimum wage

 

[Billy the Fish]

on a brighter note, 5 winners means more competition, and with low licence costs to recoup. consumers should come out well from this.

Indeed. The 3G auction nearly sent Ericsson (who I worked for at the time) bust because they overpaid so much, there were actually quite alot of job losses off the back of that. A competetive 4G market and better coverage should be good for everyone.

 

[vegster]

This when 2,000 people apply for 1 job at Costas you know were in trouble

I have a friend who works in a well known high street chain that is franchised. New franchise owners have recently taken over and they are systematically reducing the wage bill by constructive dismissals. There is a huge legal dept at head office which facilitates and supports their actions. My mate is hard working and reliable but suddenly they are picking holes in all he does. Looks like they are going to do him on two written warnings in such a way that he can't defend himself. Already they are taking on staff at minimum wage to slide someone straight in when he goes.

Welcome to Conservative values !

 

[narly101]

Blair repaired so much damage and revolutionized the country last time. You don't get 3 terms in this day and age without being something a bit special.

This lot are undoing it all

Hopefully it wont be too late when they get in

This actually made me spit my tea out. What utter disillusioned flap knackery.

 

[vegster]

I have a friend who works in a well known high street chain that is franchised. New franchise owners have recently taken over and they are systematically reducing the wage bill by constructive dismissals. There is a huge legal dept at head office which facilitates and supports their actions. My mate is hard working and reliable but suddenly they are picking holes in all he does. Looks like they are going to do him on two written warnings in such a way that he can't defend himself. Already they are taking on staff at minimum wage to slide someone straight in when he goes.

Welcome to Conservative values !

I forgot to add that for tax reasons they are based in the Channel Islands in order to get the profits out of the country. So any cash saved on UK wages gets split between head office and the franchisees.

A nice encouragement for small businessmen.

 

[Westdene Seagull]

Has there been a worse government ?

The Brown government springs to mind. Let's not forget it was Brown who proudly announced an end to boom and bust

 

[Westdene Seagull]

I have a friend who works in a well known high street chain that is franchised. New franchise owners have recently taken over and they are systematically reducing the wage bill by constructive dismissals. There is a huge legal dept at head office which facilitates and supports their actions. My mate is hard working and reliable but suddenly they are picking holes in all he does. Looks like they are going to do him on two written warnings in such a way that he can't defend himself. Already they are taking on staff at minimum wage to slide someone straight in when he goes.

Welcome to Conservative values !

You're friend should be looking at doing them for constructive dismissal. Not sure why you link a dodgy business practise to the government though.

 

[Weststander]

Er . . . he's the chancellor. He's basing budgets around this. He needs to have a team that needs to know pretty much everything. A third less is a shocker.

As said by others, literally an auction, therefore the guy dealing with Labour's colossal national debt could never have said what the windfall will yield.

 

[Weststander]

You're friend should be looking at doing them for constructive dismissal. Not sure why you link a dodgy business practise to the government though.

Blair and Brown (certainly not socialists) were big friends of big business, the City, light touch supervision, the Banks.

The UK didn't become pro employer / anti employee one day in May 2010.

The constructive dismissal devious story is probably true, there are some awful employers out there, but it is not a party political split.