Kalimantan Gull
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[Politics] Next Conservative Leader - Rishi Sunak
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Excellent stuff people of Lewes
deletebeepbeepbeep
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- May 12, 2009
- 21,730
Wow - does she have an executive position or is she front line?
Tom Hark Preston Park
Will Post For Cash
- Jul 6, 2003
- 72,187
The fact that BJ is being touted as even being in the frame for the job just shows the level of mediocrity now accepted as the new normal in this utterly pitiful banana republic. Bring on devolution from this absolute shitshow
KZNSeagull
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Devolution for Preston Park?
Barham's tash
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I heard it said within a week of his faux resignation that the wording was very carefully done to enable him to return in just such this scenario in just utterly staggered that anyone wants him back outside the sycophantic lecherous Tory ‘jobs for the boys’ inner sanctum let alone 30 of you on here.
Barnet Seagull
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It doesn't really matter.
In my view growth is simple. It's either delivered through improving the way things are done (efficiency) or by having more labour in the market to drive output.
The conservatives generally struggle to spend on infrastructure projects and services due to having privatised most of them to address the former (see current historic lack of energy investment for details) So instead they look to cut services. They are not willing to open immigration to support the latter.
It's diminishing returns for any future governments unless they are willing to tackle growth properly with some heavy investment.
In my view growth is simple. It's either delivered through improving the way things are done (efficiency) or by having more labour in the market to drive output.
The conservatives generally struggle to spend on infrastructure projects and services due to having privatised most of them to address the former (see current historic lack of energy investment for details) So instead they look to cut services. They are not willing to open immigration to support the latter.
It's diminishing returns for any future governments unless they are willing to tackle growth properly with some heavy investment.
I've changed my mine from Ben (he's not interested in the job) Wallace to #bringbackboris
Never ever thought those words would ever come out of my gob, but there you are. Bumbling clown he might be, but looking at the opposition he might be the best option. These are truly strange times we live in.
Never ever thought those words would ever come out of my gob, but there you are. Bumbling clown he might be, but looking at the opposition he might be the best option. These are truly strange times we live in.
- Jul 10, 2003
- 27,607
They've changed the word Shit to the word Boris in the campaign. Quite appropriate really
Kalimantan Gull
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- Jul 10, 2003
- 27,607
It wasn't all bad though, you mustn't be too blinkered, he got some big decisions right.
1. Vaccine rollout, I got my first jab four months before the Spanish inlaws
2. Furlough Scheme, again the Spanish inlaws got no help
3. Head above the parapet and went large in his support for Ukraine
Fignon's Ponytail
Well-known member
She is management, and also front line....but nowhere near high enough to not worry about money.
She's also worked in A&E every Saturday this year as well to get overtime pay, as its become a necessity now rather than just wanting "a bit extra" every now and again.
I honestly dont know what to think sometimes when I hear her fawning over Johnson.
Deportivo Seagull
I should coco
Lied to the Queen, lied to parliament and went on the piss when the rest of us played by the rules and the Queen buried her husband.
He binned anyone of any talent from government and filled it with idiots, which is why we are where we are. He has basically shafted the Tories and the country to feather his own nest.
As for Ukraine, he did what he normally does and followed the crowd. If the west had been uninterested then so would he. Opportunist whore of the worse kind who has never done anything to benefit anyone other than himself.
And that ladies and gentlemen are his good points .
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- May 8, 2018
- 10,503
Prediction
Johnson returns - new haircut a few pounds lost
Portrayed as the saviour / has the mandate
Standards committee doesn’t go well
General election in January.
Johnson returns - new haircut a few pounds lost
Portrayed as the saviour / has the mandate
Standards committee doesn’t go well
General election in January.
Stato
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- Dec 21, 2011
- 7,283
By my calculations there are currently about 120 ministerial/PPS positions in the government. Some people will be doubling up in roles, so its actually less actual people than this.
Let's say that, when elected, Johnson appointed his best 115 people for these jobs. 15 of these resigned over the first two years. Then, in July 2022, 62 ministers resigned and another 5 stayed in their jobs, but urged him to resign. Presuming (and knowing this bunch of duplicitous self-servers it is, I admit a big presumption) that none of these (apart from Javid who already accounts for two of these resignations) would be craven enough to go back to a governmental position under Johnson, we are left with a government made up of second or third choices. Discounting the resigners and Johnson, and presumably Truss and May, we're down to a field of 277 + lords to choose from. Given that, at the time, The Spectator could list 105 MPs who had publicly called for his resignation: https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/full-list-the-tory-mps-calling-for-boris-to-go, lets be generous and presume that there are at least another 40-50 who weren't ministers, but also wouldn't serve. We are now down to the number of MPs who might serve under him being so low that each of them would have about a 50/50 chance of being given a government job. That means that half of the Government would be made up of Piers Fletcher Dervishes. It would be the equivalent of us appointing a manager that a good proportion of the first team and U21s would refuse to play for. To put it into context, when Johnson's previous government collapsed overnight, he was literally and metaphorically 'down to the bare bones' and even gave Peter Bone a job!
Only the mad right wing of the current Tory party could be so blind to anybody else's opinions that they could consider that a man who has demonstrated that he is implacably opposed and mistrusted by at least a third of their parliamentary colleagues would be a candidate to replace a similarly regarded leader who failed so quickly, partly because she had no mandate from her MPs. This is the last flailings of a dead ideology. The right wing see Johnson's popularity with the membership as their last chance to hold on to the reigns of the party. It's too late: Johnson or no Johnson, they have been found out, even by their colleagues. Should he win, the Conservative Party may not even outlive the majority of the Octogenarian party members who would be voting him in.
Let's say that, when elected, Johnson appointed his best 115 people for these jobs. 15 of these resigned over the first two years. Then, in July 2022, 62 ministers resigned and another 5 stayed in their jobs, but urged him to resign. Presuming (and knowing this bunch of duplicitous self-servers it is, I admit a big presumption) that none of these (apart from Javid who already accounts for two of these resignations) would be craven enough to go back to a governmental position under Johnson, we are left with a government made up of second or third choices. Discounting the resigners and Johnson, and presumably Truss and May, we're down to a field of 277 + lords to choose from. Given that, at the time, The Spectator could list 105 MPs who had publicly called for his resignation: https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/full-list-the-tory-mps-calling-for-boris-to-go, lets be generous and presume that there are at least another 40-50 who weren't ministers, but also wouldn't serve. We are now down to the number of MPs who might serve under him being so low that each of them would have about a 50/50 chance of being given a government job. That means that half of the Government would be made up of Piers Fletcher Dervishes. It would be the equivalent of us appointing a manager that a good proportion of the first team and U21s would refuse to play for. To put it into context, when Johnson's previous government collapsed overnight, he was literally and metaphorically 'down to the bare bones' and even gave Peter Bone a job!
Only the mad right wing of the current Tory party could be so blind to anybody else's opinions that they could consider that a man who has demonstrated that he is implacably opposed and mistrusted by at least a third of their parliamentary colleagues would be a candidate to replace a similarly regarded leader who failed so quickly, partly because she had no mandate from her MPs. This is the last flailings of a dead ideology. The right wing see Johnson's popularity with the membership as their last chance to hold on to the reigns of the party. It's too late: Johnson or no Johnson, they have been found out, even by their colleagues. Should he win, the Conservative Party may not even outlive the majority of the Octogenarian party members who would be voting him in.
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Super Steve Earle
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Yup. Let's just blame the old people!
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
Vaccine roll out before the AZ jab was properly tested. Nobody has an AZ booster now, it is all Pfizer and Moderna. Macron was right to be cautious about it.
The furlough scheme was good, but that was Sunak rather than Johnson.
Ukraine,I'll grant you but Johnson loves to look like the hero, until it comes to facing the press when he hides in a fridge or refuses to appear on certain tv channels.
- Apr 5, 2014
- 25,781
My understanding was the AZ variety was not used as a booster because it isn't an MRNA vaccine (like the others) and is nowhere near effective as a top up.
Leekbrookgull
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Ok,own up who has voted Dorries or Grayling ? 
