Cheeky Monkey
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- Jul 17, 2003
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I did realise at the time of posting, I just couldn’t be bothered to change it.
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[Politics] Next Conservative Leader - Rishi Sunak
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I did realise at the time of posting, I just couldn’t be bothered to change it.
- Nov 11, 2009
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Interesting take in the independent.
Not sure I agree with it as he'll face constant sniping from the right of his party and members who don't want him, but interesting none the less.
www.independent.co.uk
Not sure I agree with it as he'll face constant sniping from the right of his party and members who don't want him, but interesting none the less.
Labour should be very worried about Rishi Sunak | Opinion
The Tories have got themselves a decent new leader; but also a new narrative
www.independent.co.uk
I'm not disputing their right, clearly they can..and they have. My point was more about Sunak's mandate....just like the previous lot had not mandate from the electorate to carry out their disasterous budget.The PM is whoever has the confidence of the commons.
I don't like the current Conservative party but their MPs are entirely within their rights to select whoever they like as their leader.
Let's see how they cock up next
And let's not forget even the party members did not want Sunak......for whatever reason that might be?
Leekbrookgull
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If he was an ice creamPeston babbling incoherently outside Number 10 on ITV lunchtime news is worth a watch
he would lick himself to death.HAILSHAM SEAGULL
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- Nov 9, 2009
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I love the way Ian Hislop on HIGNFY christened her Nutella
- Nov 11, 2009
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One thing you can be absolutely
certain of.If the roles were reversed and say Starmer is ousted with pitiful ratings 2 years out from a GE, with a new labour leader assuming PM, there's simply no way they would hold the "GE in the national interest" they call for today.
They're both duplicitous in this respect. Gaining power and holding onto it will always trump any fake moral argument (that's only real intent is to gain power and hold onto it!)
nwgull
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Yes, it's not ideal that a couple of hundred MPs get to choose the next PM, but at least they had to get elected to that position so it's considerably more democratic than it being decided by a few thousand people who've done no more than pay a membership fee, some of who wouldn't even qualify to vote in a UK GE.
Iggle Piggle
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- Sep 3, 2010
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What a time to be in the UK when I'm actually pleased Rishi has got in despite him boasting about removing funding from poor areas and his disdain for the working classes during the leadership campaign with Liz.
The mental thing for me is the Tory party members kicking off on Twitter about the "members not having a say" after they inflicted Truss on us for those disastrous 44 days. That lot shouldn't be trusted to get a round in let alone decide the PM of the UK.
The mental thing for me is the Tory party members kicking off on Twitter about the "members not having a say" after they inflicted Truss on us for those disastrous 44 days. That lot shouldn't be trusted to get a round in let alone decide the PM of the UK.
nwgull
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Has to be said that Corbyn did give Johnson the GE he wanted when Labour were polling in the mid 20s. Although I think that was more to do with Corbyn and Momentum's delusion than any sort of democratic integrity.One thing you can be absolutely
If the roles were reversed and say Starmer is ousted with pitiful ratings 2 years out from a GE, with a new labour leader assuming PM, there's simply no way they would hold the "GE in the national interest" they call for today.
They're both duplicitous in this respect. Gaining power and holding onto it will always trump any fake moral argument (that's only real intent is to gain power and hold onto it!)
mejonaNO12 aka riskit
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ROUSING speech from Rishbot 2000
Cheeky Monkey
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- Jul 17, 2003
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Not been following the Tory infighting, but did he just completely blank Grant Shapps on arriving at Tory HQ? Think it was Shapps.
Stato
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- Dec 21, 2011
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Apparently he addressed his colleagues and warned about an existential threat faced by the Conservative Party. Good to see his priorities already in order. Don't worry about the existantial threats to the planet, to the United Kingdom, to the economy, or to democracy. Let's make sure the Conservative Party is alright.
Altogether now Pete! Meet the new boss...
Altogether now Pete! Meet the new boss...
Yeah if you change the entire meaning of the word...
Might have mistaken him for Michael Green.
Unless you're planning on having elections every time we have a budget, that's just a fact of life. Any government can change their policies once they're in power, whether for good reasons like a changing economic climate, or bad reasons like the chancellor being sacked and replaced with a drooling incompetent moron. With this lot it's the same shit, different orifice.
Edmund Burke once told his constituents in Bristol that he owed them his judgment, not his slavish adherence to their opinions. He lost the next election funnily enough.
To be honest, I don't give a monkeys about the thoughts of Conservative party members.
To be fair I wouldn’t hug Hancock. He looks like he shoves his fingers up his own arse.
Well, bearing in mind that Labour's 'Best Man for the Job' might well have been Diane Abbott, perhaps not surprising.
With Labour's history and ethos of left wing policies, socially in favour of the working man, the under-dog, etc, the obvious thought would be that the under-privileged on society, such as immigrants and ethnic minorities would favour Labour. Undoubtedly many will vote Labour, but I've no empiric data how the voting patterns break down.
However, ethnic minorities do seem to be well represented in the ranks of Tory politicians, both in the commons and in local government. Perhaps they're just very ambitious, and the Tory party seems a good way to 'get on'? It seems to have worked for Rishi (in spite of some of the 167,000 doing their best to stop him!)
mikeyjh
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I've been on the verge of launching stuff at the Radio or whatever screen for weeks now - It's all they talk about, the part, the next election etc etc. They have no integrity whatsoever. On the subject of Sunak, he seems to be getting some good press as he's kind of dapper, well spoken and brown skinned. He has horrendous ideas on how to deal with immigration and redistribution of wealth. He's a weapon grade ***t.
